Minute hand not perfectly in sync with seconds hand?

[BigBallerBrand]

My minutes hand does not pass the minute marker exactly at same time when my second hand passes the 12 o'clock marker...not a huge deal, but is that normal?

[dmhines]

That is directly controlled by you setting and hacking the movement ... unless I am totally not understanding the question.

[kieselguhr]

You’re in control of that.

Hack the movement when the seconds hand is at 12.

Set the time according to an atomic clock.

Win

[campfire]

Do you mean that say for example it's 4:15. The seconds hand is at the 12 o'clock position, but the minute hand is just a smidge off of the 3 o'clock marker...not bang on?

[csaltphoto]

You make need to take the slack/lash out of the movement. Usually I take the minute hand right past a minute marker then back it up slightly to line up, when the second hand is hacked at 12. Then depress the crown back in when your timing source hits whatever time and Zero seconds.

[BigBallerBrand]

Yes what I meant was the minute hand passes the 5:30 mark maybe when the seconds hand is at the 35 second mark instead of the 00 / 12 o clock position.

I guess I will try to “hack” the movement. I thought when I adjust the time, the minute hand will automatically adjust itself tot the appropriate position based on there the second hand is currently position. For example, if I pulled the crown and the seconds hand was at the 30 second mark, I thought that I couldn’t adjust the minute hand to be perfectly aligned at a specific minute mark, but that it must be between two minutes marks (bc the seconds hand is at 30 seconds)

Hopefully that makes sense

[schoolboy]

Originally Posted by BigBallerBrand

Yes what I meant was the minute hand passes the 5:30 mark maybe when the seconds hand is at the 35 second mark instead of the 00 / 12 o clock position.

I guess I will try to “hack” the movement. I thought when I adjust the time, the minute hand will automatically adjust itself tot the appropriate position based on there the second hand is currently position. For example, if I pulled the crown and the seconds hand was at the 30 second mark, I thought that I couldn’t adjust the minute hand to be perfectly aligned at a specific minute mark, but that it must be between two minutes marks (bc the seconds hand is at 30 seconds)

Hopefully that makes sense

It makes sense but that’s not the way it works

You have to pull out the crown when the second hand is at 12

Then set the minute hand exactly to the minute marker that is coming up on your cell phone or atomic clock

As soon as the time hits on the cell phone or atomic clock, press the crown on the watch in and you should be synced up pretty well

[Beckster]

Originally Posted by BigBallerBrand

Yes what I meant was the minute hand passes the 5:30 mark maybe when the seconds hand is at the 35 second mark instead of the 00 / 12 o clock position.

I guess I will try to “hack” the movement. I thought when I adjust the time, the minute hand will automatically adjust itself tot the appropriate position based on there the second hand is currently position. For example, if I pulled the crown and the seconds hand was at the 30 second mark, I thought that I couldn’t adjust the minute hand to be perfectly aligned at a specific minute mark, but that it must be between two minutes marks (bc the seconds hand is at 30 seconds)

Hopefully that makes sense

You need to hack the movement when the seconds hand is at the 00/60 sec mark. Then adjust the minute to the correct time as accurately as you can. Sync to a reliable source and....I think you get the idea. Hopefully.

[schoolboy]

Originally Posted by csaltphoto

You make need to take the slack/lash out of the movement. Usually I take the minute hand right past a minute marker then back it up slightly to line up, when the second hand is hacked at 12. Then depress the crown back in when your timing source hits whatever time and Zero seconds.

This is true too


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[whatsthetime?]

Originally Posted by BigBallerBrand

Yes what I meant was the minute hand passes the 5:30 mark maybe when the seconds hand is at the 35 second mark instead of the 00 / 12 o clock position.

I guess I will try to “hack” the movement. I thought when I adjust the time, the minute hand will automatically adjust itself tot the appropriate position based on there the second hand is currently position. For example, if I pulled the crown and the seconds hand was at the 30 second mark, I thought that I couldn’t adjust the minute hand to be perfectly aligned at a specific minute mark, but that it must be between two minutes marks (bc the seconds hand is at 30 seconds)

Hopefully that makes sense

Your first post clearly explains exactly what you meant.

I found that when pressing the crown back in to start the time, it sometimes moves a bit due to backlash (play) between the gears.
Sometimes I press it in perfectly, sometimes not, so I know exactly what you mean.

[trfChris]

Originally Posted by BigBallerBrand

Yes what I meant was the minute hand passes the 5:30 mark maybe when the seconds hand is at the 35 second mark instead of the 00 / 12 o clock position.

I guess I will try to “hack” the movement. I thought when I adjust the time, the minute hand will automatically adjust itself tot the appropriate position based on there the second hand is currently position. For example, if I pulled the crown and the seconds hand was at the 30 second mark, I thought that I couldn’t adjust the minute hand to be perfectly aligned at a specific minute mark, but that it must be between two minutes marks (bc the seconds hand is at 30 seconds)

Hopefully that makes sense

The only watch that I know of that synchronize the minute hand with the second hand this way is the Glashutte Original Senator Chronometer. For most watches it’s up to the user to hack the seconds at 60, then set the minute hand exactly to the minute hashmark.

[GGGMT]

Hack bro!!


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[vesnyder]

That explains why the Glashutte is so expensive! I had a similar question a while ago and am anal about syncing the second and minute hand. The Rolex is easy compared to my other automatics, and the Seiko SKX does not even have hacking, so do not even bother with that one

[Old Expat Beast]

Originally Posted by vesnyder

That explains why the Glashutte is so expensive! I had a similar question a while ago and am anal about syncing the second and minute hand. The Rolex is easy compared to my other automatics, and the Seiko SKX does not even have hacking, so do not even bother with that one

My Seiko SKX keeps right on the mark. Hacking has nothing to do with it, you just need to set the minute hand with a little care.

[adawil2002]

That's messed up, time to part it out.

[sleepydoc]

Originally Posted by whatsthetime?

Your first post clearly explains exactly what you meant.

I found that when pressing the crown back in to start the time, it sometimes moves a bit due to backlash (play) between the gears.
Sometimes I press it in perfectly, sometimes not, so I know exactly what you mean.

Reviving this thread as I am having the same problem - I think the issue is mainly what Joe is saying here. I hack the movement with the seconds hand at 12, then line up the minute marker. But when I depress the crown back in to start the movement, the minute hand jumps backward a smidge so it is now starting a tad behind the minute marker instead of right on it. Should I just overcompensate for the play between the gears by taking the minute hand just beyond the minute marker when I hack the movement or can this gear play be eliminated?
Thanks.

[Tools]

You're trying to fit a mechanical machine into a digital world.

[TheWatchmen]

Originally Posted by sleepydoc

Reviving this thread as I am having the same problem - I think the issue is mainly what Joe is saying here. I hack the movement with the seconds hand at 12, then line up the minute marker. But when I depress the crown back in to start the movement, the minute hand jumps backward a smidge so it is now starting a tad behind the minute marker instead of right on it. Should I just overcompensate for the play between the gears by taking the minute hand just beyond the minute marker when I hack the movement or can this gear play be eliminated?
Thanks.

You should be able to get it lined up. Once you have the minute hand where you want it, turn the crown back the other direction just a SMIDGE, there should be a little slack. When you press the crown in to get the watch ticking again just do it carefully and precisely, making sure you are pressing it straight in and not turning the crown in either direction.

[sleepydoc]

Haha Larry probably true and some OCD too
But it is mildly irritating to see the minute hand half way between minute markers when the second hand passes 12.

[sleepydoc]

Originally Posted by TheWatchmen

You should be able to get it lined up. Once you have the minute hand where you want it, turn the crown back the other direction just a SMIDGE, there should be a little slack. When you press the crown in to get the watch ticking again just do it carefully and precisely, making sure you are pressing it straight in and not turning the crown in either direction.

Thanks I will try that. I was messing around with it the entire first half of the Jax/KC game and it still eludes me.

[2loaded]

Stop se ones and liner 'er Up!

[DJ2020]

Sounds like a hack job to me! What others have mentioned. Run the minute hand past the target time. Then back the minute hand up to align. When ready push the crown in.

[sleepydoc]

Originally Posted by DJ2020

Sounds like a hack job to me! What others have mentioned. Run the minute hand past the target time. Then back the minute hand up to align. When ready push the crown in.

Right. But as I said when I push the crown in the minute hand moves off the minute marker.

[WatchGuy1966]

"Sorry I'm late, boss. I blame my watch - the second hand didn't align with the minute hand."

hahaha