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tmilnthorp · 5 August 2020, 06:25 AM

Hello all!

I am looking into adding a Luminor into my collection and would like one that is "the" Luminor reference so-to-speak. I do know that the 47mm looks a bit large to my taste, otherwise I would probably buy a PAM00372. However it seems the next best option in today's catalog is the PAM00914.

What would you consider the best "first" Panerai?

The OG Beef · 5 August 2020, 06:28 AM

Do you have a budget in mind?

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tmilnthorp · 5 August 2020, 08:32 AM

I'm open on budget. I feel like over $8k you should be getting the titanium cased variants (one day).

The OG Beef · 5 August 2020, 11:07 AM

I’d go with the 914.
44mm
300m WR
8-day PR
base dial

A relative “bargain” these days at $6k.

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fullcourt · 5 August 2020, 01:42 PM

listen to the beef....��

Cru Jones · 5 August 2020, 03:37 PM

The ecru lume (which some call “fake patina” and others say is just a color) keeps the 914 from being the modern “classic” 44 PAM for me. For me, white or green lume is more “classic”. So, I’d say the 560/562/564 are the most “classic” 44’s in the current catalogue.

As for what is the “best” first Panerai, that’s much more complicated and really personal to each person. So many good ones.

Ravager135 · 5 August 2020, 10:27 PM

So your question encapsulates the exact problem with Panerai these days... It doesn't exist. The 372 as you pointed out would be the most "classic" representation of a Panerai, but there really isn't a model that exists any longer 44mm. In the past, I'd tell you the 111 or 112 would be great examples. There are similar models available today, but none exactly like either. This is deliberate on the part of Panerai.

As I have stated many times; there are plenty of worthy Panerai models in production, but there is no cohesive core line up. The cheapest, entry level models all slack on one detail or another (sandwich dial, additional dial text, snap-on caseback, etc). What people really want is a 911 with a black dial. This would give you an in-house movement, sandwich dial, gold hands, screw down caseback, 44mm size, no unnecessary dial text.

tmilnthorp · 5 August 2020, 11:22 PM

Thank you all for your responses! I agree that it seems the core "essence" has been lost in the current catalog. The 914 does seem to grab most of what I want: screw down back, sandwich dial, 44mm. But I do wish it had the gold hands.

Has this been recent? I could have sworn when I looked not all that long ago there were more options in the base line.

I believe I saw somewhere here that there may be more releases this year. Perhaps I'll see what comes around (if anything).

The OG Beef · 6 August 2020, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by tmilnthorp

Thank you all for your responses! I agree that it seems the core "essence" has been lost in the current catalog. The 914 does seem to grab most of what I want: screw down back, sandwich dial, 44mm. But I do wish it had the gold hands.

Has this been recent? I could have sworn when I looked not all that long ago there were more options in the base line.

I believe I saw somewhere here that there may be more releases this year. Perhaps I'll see what comes around (if anything).

There will be some releases next month - exactly what is unknown. There will be titanium brown dialed versions of the 914\915 at some point if that floats your boat.

all_in_the_pamily

stockae92 · 6 August 2020, 04:47 AM

Interesting. They brought back the old style 9 and 6 ...

Quote:

Originally Posted by The OG Beef

I’d go with the 914.
44mm
300m WR
8-day PR
base dial

A relative “bargain” these days at $6k.

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ajas · 6 August 2020, 06:28 PM

As said before 914 seems to be good choice

Gerardus · 6 August 2020, 08:23 PM

Pic of my recently acquired first PAM, very satisfied with it, wears top notch!

Nikrnic · 10 August 2020, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerardus

Pic of my recently acquired first PAM, very satisfied with it, wears top notch!

722 - 723 ?

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Jdepo · 10 August 2020, 09:28 AM

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Nikrnic · 10 August 2020, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Gerardus

Pic of my recently acquired first PAM, very satisfied with it, wears top notch!

I've seen your pic on another thread and see you have the 722, not 723. I've been asking advice for my first Pam and im pretty sold on this one on bracelet. I have a just under 7" flat wrist so like many I'm trying to be sure on a 42 or 44mm. I've been to an AD who had a very limted selection of strap only models. Don't know your wrist size? but that looks great on you...

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TswaneNguni · 10 August 2020, 03:20 PM

Look for a mint PAM 111 It comes from the right Panerai vintage .

Modern available 422/372 .Prefer 422 due to crystal .Plexiglass on 372 very impractical .Sold my 372 but wear the 422 a lot.

127/217/249/232 VERY noteworthy mentions.

PAM 24 also ,especially with polished bezel and tritium dial .Model C

5 August 2020, 06:25 AM	#1
tmilnthorp "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2019 Location: USA Posts: 45	What is the classic Luminor in today's catalog? Hello all! I am looking into adding a Luminor into my collection and would like one that is "the" Luminor reference so-to-speak. I do know that the 47mm looks a bit large to my taste, otherwise I would probably buy a PAM00372. However it seems the next best option in today's catalog is the PAM00914. What would you consider the best "first" Panerai?

5 August 2020, 01:42 PM	#5
fullcourt "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: dp Location: chicago, usa Watch: panerai Posts: 2,369	listen to the beef....�� __________________ dp just living the dream chicago, usa chgo_risti on IG

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Gerardus "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: Gerardus Location: often in the air Watch: ♕ Posts: 12,140	What is the classic Luminor in today's catalog? Pic of my recently acquired first PAM, very satisfied with it, wears top notch! __________________ ♕126610 ♕126333 ♕116300

5 August 2020, 06:28 AM	#2
The OG Beef "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: United States Posts: 390	Do you have a budget in mind? all_in_the_pamily on IG Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

5 August 2020, 08:32 AM	#3
tmilnthorp "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2019 Location: USA Posts: 45	I'm open on budget. I feel like over $8k you should be getting the titanium cased variants (one day).

5 August 2020, 11:07 AM	#4
The OG Beef "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: United States Posts: 390	I’d go with the 914. 44mm 300m WR 8-day PR base dial A relative “bargain” these days at $6k. all_in_the_pamily on IG Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

5 August 2020, 03:37 PM	#6
Cru Jones 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Paris, France Posts: 35,296	The ecru lume (which some call “fake patina” and others say is just a color) keeps the 914 from being the modern “classic” 44 PAM for me. For me, white or green lume is more “classic”. So, I’d say the 560/562/564 are the most “classic” 44’s in the current catalogue. As for what is the “best” first Panerai, that’s much more complicated and really personal to each person. So many good ones.

5 August 2020, 10:27 PM	#7
Ravager135 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: New Jersey Posts: 4,224	So your question encapsulates the exact problem with Panerai these days... It doesn't exist. The 372 as you pointed out would be the most "classic" representation of a Panerai, but there really isn't a model that exists any longer 44mm. In the past, I'd tell you the 111 or 112 would be great examples. There are similar models available today, but none exactly like either. This is deliberate on the part of Panerai. As I have stated many times; there are plenty of worthy Panerai models in production, but there is no cohesive core line up. The cheapest, entry level models all slack on one detail or another (sandwich dial, additional dial text, snap-on caseback, etc). What people really want is a 911 with a black dial. This would give you an in-house movement, sandwich dial, gold hands, screw down caseback, 44mm size, no unnecessary dial text.

5 August 2020, 11:22 PM	#8
tmilnthorp "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2019 Location: USA Posts: 45	Thank you all for your responses! I agree that it seems the core "essence" has been lost in the current catalog. The 914 does seem to grab most of what I want: screw down back, sandwich dial, 44mm. But I do wish it had the gold hands. Has this been recent? I could have sworn when I looked not all that long ago there were more options in the base line. I believe I saw somewhere here that there may be more releases this year. Perhaps I'll see what comes around (if anything).

6 August 2020, 06:28 PM	#11
ajas "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Real Name: Will Location: Kuala Lumpur Watch: SubC, Pam, Speede Posts: 3,146	As said before 914 seems to be good choice

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Jdepo "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: Maryland Posts: 47	Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

10 August 2020, 03:20 PM	#16
TswaneNguni "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: . Watch: Daytonas/Subs/GMTs Posts: 12,609	Look for a mint PAM 111 It comes from the right Panerai vintage . Modern available 422/372 .Prefer 422 due to crystal .Plexiglass on 372 very impractical .Sold my 372 but wear the 422 a lot. 127/217/249/232 VERY noteworthy mentions. PAM 24 also ,especially with polished bezel and tritium dial .Model C

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