How come the 16570 is not extremely popular?

[Daniel23456]

Hello guys,

So after having and sold 16610 and 114270 I finally received my 16570 polar which I am incredibly happy with. In fact, I am so happy that I am trying to understand how come they were the ugly duck until very recently.

The white dial (on my polar) is extremely clear and none reflective, compared to my Explorer and sub that were VERY reflective. It was really hard to actually see the color of the dial with those. With the EXPii it's very clear to see this white color.

The case is very thin and incredibly comfortable on the wrist, more than my 16610 ever was.

The movement is a GMT movement with the ability to move only the hour hand (what a great feature that I wish every watch had!)

The bezel while being fixed- has one of the prettiest sunburst effects I have ever seen. Makes it somewhat dressy IMHO.

The black lacquer on all of the components of the dial is incredibly legible and gorgeously applied.

I can literally not understand what's the deal with that watch. How come it’s not as common as a sub?

I am so impressed and happy with my polar... this watch is not going anywhere. Never.

Thanks for listening!

[Onikage]

The 5 digit Explorer II's time will come. Don't you worry about that.

[Daniel23456]

Originally Posted by Onikage

The 5 digit Explorer II's time will come. Don't you worry about that.

It seems as if the time is almost here... prices are rising steadily:)

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by Onikage

The 5 digit Explorer II's time will come. Don't you worry about that.

Agreed

[mattedialdoc]

Originally Posted by Dirt

Agreed

I picked one up this year. Black dial with holes and SEL. Mine is unpolished and had never been opened. I overlooked these for years in my ravenous hunt for vintage subs and GMTs. IMHO after having almost all modern and vintage Rolex references? I think the 16570 is about the best daily wear out there. It’s basically a 16710 with a steel bezel. Bomb proof. No silly Pepsi bezel to flop around. Thin case. Sapphire crystal . Probably my most comfy watch on the 78790SEL. Best vintage Rolex value proposition at 5-6k.

[gnuyork]

Originally Posted by mattedialdoc

I picked one up this year. Black dial with holes and SEL. Mine is unpolished and had never been opened. I overlooked these for years in my ravenous hunt for vintage subs and GMTs. IMHO after having almost all modern and vintage Rolex references? I think the 16570 is about the best daily wear out there. It’s basically a 16710 with a steel bezel. Bomb proof. No silly Pepsi bezel to flop around. Thin case. Sapphire crystal . Probably my most comfy watch on the 78790SEL. Best vintage Rolex value proposition at 5-6k.

$5-6K? Please tell me where. I have wanted an 5 digit for a while now and I should have purchased last year when you could get them in the mid to high $5K range (it seems just last year). Now I'm seeing them regularly in the 7-8K and some examples look terrible.

[mattedialdoc]

Originally Posted by gnuyork

$5-6K? Please tell me where. I have wanted an 5 digit for a while now and I should have purchased last year when you could get them in the mid to high $5K range (it seems just last year). Now I'm seeing them regularly in the 7-8K and some examples look terrible.

Heh heh you’re right. Looks like they’ve gone up a grand in the last couple months. Ya better grab ‘em fast!


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[MRPWRPATX21]

Originally Posted by gnuyork

$5-6K? Please tell me where. I have wanted an 5 digit for a while now and I should have purchased last year when you could get them in the mid to high $5K range (it seems just last year). Now I'm seeing them regularly in the 7-8K and some examples look terrible.

Not quite $5k range, but I got 2 earlier this year for $6,500 and $6,100 (both white dials). K and P series, so both holes case SEL. The former came with punched papers and the latter had just been cleaned up by one of the prominent West Coast refinishers and both have thick, sharp lugs and clean chamfers. Negotiate what you can but be ready to pull the trigger when you find what you like and hunt as long as it takes (took me a few months, then found them back to back and decided to jump on both). Both from solid sellers on here.

[kieselguhr]

Glad to see you recognize the merits of your watch. You don’t need the rest of the world to do the same for you to enjoy your watch.

[Daniel23456]

Originally Posted by kieselguhr

Glad to see you recognize the merits of your watch. You don’t need the rest of the world to do the same for you to enjoy your watch.

Isn’t it why we have that forum? So we can share our thoughts and discuss watches?

[kieselguhr]

Originally Posted by Daniel23456

Isn’t it why we have that forum? So we can share our thoughts and discuss watches?

You misunderstand me. I am not knocking your post.

Just saying one can enjoy their watch thoroughly without needing the approval or shared sentiment of others

[Daniel23456]

Originally Posted by kieselguhr

You misunderstand me. I am not knocking your post.

Just saying one can enjoy their watch thoroughly without needing the approval or shared sentiment of others

Apologies my friend:) cheers!

[padi56]

Originally Posted by kieselguhr

Glad to see you recognize the merits of your watch. You don’t need the rest of the world to do the same for you to enjoy your watch.

Have to agree but thanks to these so called social media sites many have lost there own brain power to think for themselves and many buy only what's hyped as best, rare, hot, investment etc. And to the OP wear your watch in good health its a great watch.

[Daniel23456]

Originally Posted by padi56

Have to agree but thanks to these so called social media sites many have lost there own brain power to think for themselves and many buy only what's hyped as best, rare, hot, investment etc. And to the OP wear your watch in good health its a great watch.

Enjoy wearing it SO much! Was supposed to be on my wrist a year and a half ago... Still can't believe I got the 16610 instead making it harder to find a 16570 now... But at least I have it and enjoy it now:)

[S.Explorer]

The Explorer II is way underrated, probably because it originally started out as a watch for cave explorers (very niche).

[Daniel23456]

Originally Posted by S.Explorer

The Explorer II is way underrated, probably because it originally started out as a watch for cave explorers (very niche).

I think the issue is that the history is way shorter on those models compared to maybe the GMT master, subs, datejust etc...

[iTreelex]

are you kidding me? both the black and polar are selling for crazy prices now. Add an extra 2k premium for the over-hyped 3186. I'll keep my 31x5 movements.

[Daniel23456]

Originally Posted by iTreelex

are you kidding me? both the black and polar are selling for crazy prices now. Add an extra 2k premium for the over-hyped 3186. I'll keep my 31x5 movements.

They certainly went up in price quite a bit, but still nothing compared to subs and GMTs...

[jamesbondOO7]

[RolexEDC]

I’m glad I got mines two years ago before the hype starts. 2021 50th anniversary coming real fast.

[El Patron]

I was offered the white dial today, on the fence still if I’m taking it. I only have one white dial watch at the moment SS Sky. I’m on the hunt for the white dial Milgauss. I did like the white and orange combo and the GTM feature, with a orange strap it would look sharp! Is the white less or more common then the black?


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[Lukebennett21]

Don’t you worry none about hyping it, your piece is already appreciating

[shaunylw]

I sold one a while ago for 5k, that was a mistake. I really enjoy that watch, and they are on the steady climb. I think it’s an incredibly hard watch to beat. It wears well, and the price is still fairly reasonable if you stay away from the 3186 absurd premium.


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[thenewrick]

Originally Posted by Daniel23456

Hello guys,

So after having and sold 16610 and 114270 I finally received my 16570 polar which I am incredibly happy with. In fact, I am so happy that I am trying to understand how come they were the ugly duck until very recently.

The white dial (on my polar) is extremely clear and none reflective, compared to my Explorer and sub that were VERY reflective. It was really hard to actually see the color of the dial with those. With the EXPii it's very clear to see this white color.

The case is very thin and incredibly comfortable on the wrist, more than my 16610 ever was.

The movement is a GMT movement with the ability to move only the hour hand (what a great feature that I wish every watch had!)

The bezel while being fixed- has one of the prettiest sunburst effects I have ever seen. Makes it somewhat dressy IMHO.

The black lacquer on all of the components of the dial is incredibly legible and gorgeously applied.

I can literally not understand what's the deal with that watch. How come it’s not as common as a sub?

I am so impressed and happy with my polar... this watch is not going anywhere. Never.

Thanks for listening!

If it had a colorful bezel it would be worth double!

[Dilemma]

I've got one. Probably my favorite.

[stormshadow]

I have a black (tritium) and white (Swiss-only) faced one. They are great to mix and match when dressing for the day.

I prefer mine in leather straps; bracelets can stay in the box.

Enjoy yours in good health!

[Lamontsanders]

I had a polar 16570 and it was very good but ended up moving on in a trade. I also had the 216570 and same deal. I have considered getting another. Good watch, good value (for now).

[subprimero]

Previously not as popular due to its very specialized purpose and its more glamorous sibling the GMT. It was a considered a good value. Now it's the up-and-coming 5 digit collectible.

[sunnygps]

Popular or not, I appreciate the pair I have. The black dial one is 3186. They fit my wrist the best and looks great on rubber or leather strap.

[BillA]

I sold mine earlier in the year, missed it and bought another one a few months later. Want to keep this one. The 40mm size is quite good and the watch has both a classic and sport look to it, so can worn all occasions.