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Nc33 · 23 October 2020, 12:35 PM

Hi everyone, I am currently looking at acquiring a 16610lv “Kermit” submariner and would greatly appreciate some help and advice.

I’ve come across a piece that has recently been overhauled and polished by RSC. Do these lugs esp the lug at the 5 o clock position look a little over polished? I have tried comparing these pictures with other pictures of unpolished examples and from my POV they do appear to be thinner?

I viewed the piece in person and it looked mint as you’d expect after a RSC polish, whilst my preference would be an unpolished example I am considering this piece, I would appreciate some thought?

I have linked a video that the store has posted on YouTube of this example and attached some pics of the piece.

https://youtu.be/pawaMSVywJc

Thanks in advance!

Nc

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aguila9 · 23 October 2020, 12:39 PM

I wouldn't fixate on the fact it was repolished, especially since it was well done. Finding an unpolished piece in that shape is for those with big budgets.

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EEpro · 23 October 2020, 12:49 PM

It looks great. I think the angle of photograph on the 7 lug chamfer in some pics makes it look wider than the 5. If you look from behind in the later caseback pic you can see the top lug and the bottom lug of concern are actually the same width.

fskywalker · 23 October 2020, 01:19 PM

Looks good IMHO

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csaltphoto · 23 October 2020, 01:21 PM

I think it looks good. Some chamfers are going to be discretionary on the polisher doing the recut. Inside the lugs and lug-ends are sharp and when this goes soft is when it falls apart.

cvo · 23 October 2020, 01:36 PM

Go check t out in person to make a decision. If possible, have anther LV of the same vintage to compare. It looks good overall.

1665fan · 23 October 2020, 02:33 PM

Yes top right lug is over polished.....ruined

jrs146 · 23 October 2020, 02:46 PM

Looks fine to me

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Big Sexy · 23 October 2020, 02:59 PM

Is this an investment piece or a watch to wear and enjoy?

chieftd · 23 October 2020, 03:15 PM

Looks great to me. Good luck with it

Andad · 23 October 2020, 03:24 PM

If your preference is unpolished I would keep searching?

Chamfers should not be discretionary?

My unpolished M.

jerryguo · 23 October 2020, 03:31 PM

yes a bit too much polish IMHO

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pbubsy · 23 October 2020, 03:42 PM

Looks fine

joli160 · 23 October 2020, 05:05 PM

Lug width on the crown side is designed to be smaller for some references.
I don’t know if that is true for the 16610 case.

Regardless, beautiful watch and perfectly refinished

Andad · 23 October 2020, 05:11 PM

As you can see on my pix the lugs are not symmetrical.

This is typical on these cases.

928ktgold · 23 October 2020, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andad

As you can see on my pix the lugs are not symmetrical.

This is typical on these cases.

Yes like the Daytona 116500. I just realized my 16610 had the same narrow lugs on the crown side last week. Hadn’t worn it much this year since getting 3 watches since January

Andad · 23 October 2020, 06:40 PM

The polishing job on the watch in question is really bad and I doubt it was done by a RSC.

The crown guards and lugs in particular are not well done.

jimcameron · 23 October 2020, 06:48 PM

The Perfection Police will spoil any pre-owned watch.

Nc33 · 23 October 2020, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aguila9

I wouldn't fixate on the fact it was repolished, especially since it was well done. Finding an unpolished piece in that shape is for those with big budgets.

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Thanks for your thoughts! Agreed I’ve found it pretty difficult to come across unpolished examples that are in good condition and within my budget.

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Nc33 · 23 October 2020, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EEpro

It looks great. I think the angle of photograph on the 7 lug chamfer in some pics makes it look wider than the 5. If you look from behind in the later caseback pic you can see the top lug and the bottom lug of concern are actually the same width.

Thanks for your thoughts! I felt it looked in pretty good nick when I saw it in person but found it difficult to compare as I couldn’t compare it with an unpolished example.

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Nc33 · 23 October 2020, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fskywalker

Looks good IMHO

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Cheers!

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Nc33 · 23 October 2020, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csaltphoto

I think it looks good. Some chamfers are going to be discretionary on the polisher doing the recut. Inside the lugs and lug-ends are sharp and when this goes soft is when it falls apart.

Thanks for your help!

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Nc33 · 23 October 2020, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cvo

Go check t out in person to make a decision. If possible, have anther LV of the same vintage to compare. It looks good overall.

Thanks! I did see it in person but have not proceeded with the purchase as I didn’t have an unpolished example to compare

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Nc33 · 23 October 2020, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1665fan

Yes top right lug is over polished.....ruined

Thanks for your help!

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Nc33 · 23 October 2020, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrs146

Looks fine to me

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Cheers!

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Nc33 · 23 October 2020, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Sexy

Is this an investment piece or a watch to wear and enjoy?

It’ll be a watch I’ll wear but ideally I’d like to purchase an example that’s in good condition and not over polished.

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Nc33 · 23 October 2020, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chieftd

Looks great to me. Good luck with it

Thanks for your input!

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Nc33 · 23 October 2020, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andad

If your preference is unpolished I would keep searching?

Chamfers should not be discretionary?

My unpolished M.

Yes I think I’ll probably do that, thanks for sharing that pic, lovely watch!

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Nc33 · 23 October 2020, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerryguo

yes a bit too much polish IMHO

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Cheers! Thanks for your input!

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Nc33 · 23 October 2020, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joli160

Lug width on the crown side is designed to be smaller for some references.
I don’t know if that is true for the 16610 case.

Regardless, beautiful watch and perfectly refinished

Yes I believe the crown side of the 5 digit examples are a little slimmer. Thanks for your input!

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23 October 2020, 12:35 PM	#1
Nc33 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Malaysia Posts: 36	Submariner 16610lv Over Polished? Hi everyone, I am currently looking at acquiring a 16610lv “Kermit” submariner and would greatly appreciate some help and advice. I’ve come across a piece that has recently been overhauled and polished by RSC. Do these lugs esp the lug at the 5 o clock position look a little over polished? I have tried comparing these pictures with other pictures of unpolished examples and from my POV they do appear to be thinner? I viewed the piece in person and it looked mint as you’d expect after a RSC polish, whilst my preference would be an unpolished example I am considering this piece, I would appreciate some thought? I have linked a video that the store has posted on YouTube of this example and attached some pics of the piece. https://youtu.be/pawaMSVywJc Thanks in advance! Nc Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

23 October 2020, 12:49 PM	#3
EEpro 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Real Name: Brad Location: Purdue Watch: Daytona Posts: 9,243	Submariner 16610lv Over Polished? It looks great. I think the angle of photograph on the 7 lug chamfer in some pics makes it look wider than the 5. If you look from behind in the later caseback pic you can see the top lug and the bottom lug of concern are actually the same width. __________________ ♛ ✠ Ω 2FA Active

23 October 2020, 01:19 PM	#4
fskywalker 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Real Name: Francisco Location: San Juan, PR Watch: Is Ticking ! Posts: 25,181	Looks good IMHO Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro __________________ Francisco ♛ 16610 / 116264 Ω 168.022 / 2535.80.00 / 310.30.42.50.01.002 / 210.90.42.20.01.001 Zenith 02.480.405 2FA security enabled

23 October 2020, 02:46 PM	#8
jrs146 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Josh Location: Lost in time Watch: Me Nae Nae Posts: 9,823	Looks fine to me Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ "Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own." -Jerome J. Garcia, Robert C. Hunter

23 October 2020, 03:24 PM	#11
Andad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,533	If your preference is unpolished I would keep searching? Chamfers should not be discretionary? My unpolished M. Attached Images __________________ E

23 October 2020, 12:39 PM	#2
aguila9 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Lower Hudon River Posts: 112	I wouldn't fixate on the fact it was repolished, especially since it was well done. Finding an unpolished piece in that shape is for those with big budgets. Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk

23 October 2020, 01:21 PM	#5
csaltphoto "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: US Watch: sub Posts: 2,429	I think it looks good. Some chamfers are going to be discretionary on the polisher doing the recut. Inside the lugs and lug-ends are sharp and when this goes soft is when it falls apart.

23 October 2020, 01:36 PM	#6
cvo "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: C Vo Location: Georgia Watch: 117610LN 116610LN Posts: 1,014	Go check t out in person to make a decision. If possible, have anther LV of the same vintage to compare. It looks good overall.

23 October 2020, 02:33 PM	#7
1665fan "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: East coast Posts: 6,660	Yes top right lug is over polished.....ruined

23 October 2020, 02:59 PM	#9
Big Sexy "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: Michigan Posts: 166	Is this an investment piece or a watch to wear and enjoy?

23 October 2020, 03:15 PM	#10
chieftd "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Real Name: Tim Location: Kapolei Hawaii Watch: Blue Sub, YM16623 Posts: 1,369	Looks great to me. Good luck with it

23 October 2020, 03:31 PM	#12
jerryguo "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Bay Area Watch: Rolex, PP, Lange Posts: 1,024	yes a bit too much polish IMHO Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

23 October 2020, 03:42 PM	#13
pbubsy "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Pablo Location: In the sand Watch: DSSD Posts: 197	Looks fine

23 October 2020, 05:05 PM	#14
joli160 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: NL Watch: Yachtmaster Posts: 14,759	Lug width on the crown side is designed to be smaller for some references. I don’t know if that is true for the 16610 case. Regardless, beautiful watch and perfectly refinished __________________ Day Date 18238, Yachtmaster 16622, Deepsea 116660, Submariner 116619, SkyD 326935, DJ 178271, DJ 69158, Yachtmaster 169622, GMT 116713LN, GMT 126711.

23 October 2020, 05:11 PM	#15
Andad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,533	As you can see on my pix the lugs are not symmetrical. This is typical on these cases. __________________ E

23 October 2020, 06:40 PM	#17
Andad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,533	The polishing job on the watch in question is really bad and I doubt it was done by a RSC. The crown guards and lugs in particular are not well done. __________________ E

23 October 2020, 06:48 PM	#18
jimcameron "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: ByDawns Earlylite Watch: 16800 Posts: 3,580	The Perfection Police will spoil any pre-owned watch.

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