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Old 19 December 2020, 06:41 AM   #1
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Ever go grey and then shortly after “get the call”?

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Highly considering going grey for a watch I’ve been wanting for a while, but my SA who I have a small purchase history with makes it seem like I could get my watch soon. Problem is it is hard to get a true read on him and I’m just sort of sick of waiting since it’s been over a year and I feel as though he forgot about me for a bit until I came back in the store. Anyone ever go grey and shortly after get the call? Did you purchase from the AD and sell the watch you bought grey?


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Old 19 December 2020, 06:54 AM   #2
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If you buy grey, they'll call you the next week.

If you wait, you'll never get the call...
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Old 19 December 2020, 07:41 AM   #3
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If you buy grey, they'll call you the next week.

If you wait, you'll never get the call...
HAHA - literally me. Bought grey 2x this year anticipating with my luck I'd get the AD call. Still waiting.
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Old 19 December 2020, 09:44 AM   #4
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If you buy grey, they'll call you the next week.



If you wait, you'll never get the call...
Correct, and that's not a coincidence.

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Old 19 December 2020, 01:57 PM   #5
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Correct, and that's not a coincidence.

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Interesting, that sounds like you know for sure.

This has happened to me. At my wife's suggestion I decided to keep both Pepsi GMTs. It's my favorite watch after all and I'd rather have another one in the vault than a bigger number on a screen.

Anything worth doing is worth overdoing.
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Old 19 December 2020, 06:31 PM   #6
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This has happened to me. At my wife's suggestion I decided to keep both Pepsi GMTs. It's my favorite watch after all and I'd rather have another one in the vault than a bigger number on a screen.

Anything worth doing is worth overdoing.
I feel my wife is quite understanding of this hobby, but that might be pushing it...
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Old 19 December 2020, 01:44 PM   #7
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If you buy grey, they'll call you the next week.

If you wait, you'll never get the call...
sounds about right!
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Old 19 December 2020, 07:15 AM   #8
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Who cares. You can sell the second one when it comes in or decline. Life is too short.
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Old 19 December 2020, 07:22 AM   #9
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Very interesting
Happened to me in October 2020
White Daytona ceramic 116500
Wire transferred money to gray and got call from AD literally in 45 min
Then called the gray back
He was very understanding
Cancelled deal and he returned me funds
Went to pick my watch from AD same day

I sent a picture of my receipt with date and time to Gray so he knows I m not lying

Very very interesting timing
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Old 19 December 2020, 11:30 PM   #10
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Very interesting
Happened to me in October 2020
White Daytona ceramic 116500
Wire transferred money to gray and got call from AD literally in 45 min
Then called the gray back
He was very understanding
Cancelled deal and he returned me funds
Went to pick my watch from AD same day

I sent a picture of my receipt with date and time to Gray so he knows I m not lying

Very very interesting timing
I shared that story here too

Gray was DavidsW!!! He is awesome
DavidSW is the best. Thanks for sharing
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Old 19 December 2020, 11:37 PM   #11
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Buy grey and give it some good wrist time.
If / when you get the call from your AD, sell the grey bought piece. Win win.
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Old 19 December 2020, 07:25 AM   #12
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Buy it grey, then if you get the call sell the new one to the grey you bought the first one from. Net net you will be down a couple of k from taking the gamble to get the watch you want, now, and will have enjoyed it while you waited.

If you want it, buy it IMO.

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Old 19 December 2020, 07:26 AM   #13
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Buy it grey, then if you get the call sell the new one to the grey you bought the first one from. Net net you will be down a couple of k from taking the gamble to get the watch you want, now, and will have enjoyed it while you waited.

If you want it, buy it IMO.

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sad thing is .. you can get blocked from your AD for selling the watch.

better resell the gray and enjoy the watch which is under your name
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Old 19 December 2020, 07:36 AM   #14
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sad thing is .. you can get blocked from your AD for selling the watch.



better resell the gray and enjoy the watch which is under your name
That's a fair point actually. Even if you were not at risk of getting caught/blocked having the watch you really want with your name on the papers does mean something.

I revise my position... Buy grey now, if you get the call sell the grey piece back to the grey, effectively paying the dealer margin, and consider it as a cost of loaning the watch, enjoying it while you wait. There's a risk you never get the call, so buy it and enjoy it with the chance down the line of upgrading to a brand new piece in your name and getting "cashback" if you do get the call.

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Old 19 December 2020, 07:27 AM   #15
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Depends on the relationship. If you can trust your AD is not yanking your chain, you will be well advised to wait.

My AD is not given to BS as far as I can tell. If I'm on a list, the watch will turn up. If they can't/won't list me, I will either forget about it or buy grey - if I want it bad enough.

Your call.
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Old 19 December 2020, 08:09 AM   #16
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Not a huge fan of supporting the gray premiums so if it’s between getting a Pepsi on the gray market or Pepsi through your AD I’d say wait. If we’re talking a DSSD JC or regular DSSD where the premium isn’t that much I would say go gray.
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Old 20 December 2020, 08:40 PM   #17
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Not a huge fan of supporting the gray premiums so if it’s between getting a Pepsi on the gray market or Pepsi through your AD I’d say wait. If we’re talking a DSSD JC or regular DSSD where the premium isn’t that much I would say go gray.
It’s not a premium, it’s availability. I don’t have the time to smooze 5 local ADs or even one. And I’m not going to bundle watches or jewelry (side note, buying jewelry at a “jewelry store” is a sucker play. Once you try a proper jeweler who works only in made order/custom design, you won’t look back.) Your AD has no idea when he’ll get any model and won’t be transparent about any list. Grays have an online presence giving me access to any watch in the catalog, aggregated from many stores and sources. It costs them to to buy and hold inventory and I have no problem paying for their service.
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Old 19 December 2020, 02:24 PM   #18
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Happened to me ....waited 13 moths on a Pepsi so bought grey then got call 4 days later. Sold the grey piece and kept the one with my name.
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Old 19 December 2020, 02:32 PM   #19
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I was told I was close for a SS Daytona, that was 2-3 years ago.
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Old 19 December 2020, 02:46 PM   #20
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There is not a watch in the world that is worth all the groveling, hand-wringing, strategizing and scalping that is the Rolex market today.

If you want a Rolex, buy one that is in stock or has a high probability of being in stock in the near future or simply buy watches that can be bought a reasonable price, say like MSRP.

I have nothing against our grey brethren, as it is a free market, but a free market also gives one the latitude to walk away from a transaction and go elsewhere.

I was lucky enough to buy most of my Rolex watches when they were fairly easy to get and I never even bothered to ask for discounts.

In my humble opinion, this is not the right time to be buying highly, sought-after references for sky-high prices, unless you just have money to burn.

If you do have money to burn, then more power to you.
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Old 19 December 2020, 03:57 PM   #21
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There is not a watch in the world that is worth all the groveling, hand-wringing, strategizing and scalping that is the Rolex market today.

If you want a Rolex, buy one that is in stock or has a high probability of being in stock in the near future or simply buy watches that can be bought a reasonable price, say like MSRP.

I have nothing against our grey brethren, as it is a free market, but a free market also gives one the latitude to walk away from a transaction and go elsewhere.

I was lucky enough to buy most of my Rolex watches when they were fairly easy to get and I never even bothered to ask for discounts.

In my humble opinion, this is not the right time to be buying highly, sought-after references for sky-high prices, unless you just have money to burn.

If you do have money to burn, then more power to you.
Probably the single most apt and insightful summary on the Rolex market I've read in a long time. You put it perfectly.
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Old 19 December 2020, 10:43 PM   #22
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There is not a watch in the world that is worth all the groveling, hand-wringing, strategizing and scalping that is the Rolex market today.

If you want a Rolex, buy one that is in stock or has a high probability of being in stock in the near future or simply buy watches that can be bought a reasonable price, say like MSRP.

I have nothing against our grey brethren, as it is a free market, but a free market also gives one the latitude to walk away from a transaction and go elsewhere.

I was lucky enough to buy most of my Rolex watches when they were fairly easy to get and I never even bothered to ask for discounts.

In my humble opinion, this is not the right time to be buying highly, sought-after references for sky-high prices, unless you just have money to burn.

If you do have money to burn, then more power to you.

Well said. It’s always worth looking into other brands as well.
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Old 21 December 2020, 09:51 AM   #23
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There is not a watch in the world that is worth all the groveling, hand-wringing, strategizing and scalping that is the Rolex market today.

If you want a Rolex, buy one that is in stock or has a high probability of being in stock in the near future or simply buy watches that can be bought a reasonable price, say like MSRP.

I have nothing against our grey brethren, as it is a free market, but a free market also gives one the latitude to walk away from a transaction and go elsewhere.

I was lucky enough to buy most of my Rolex watches when they were fairly easy to get and I never even bothered to ask for discounts.

In my humble opinion, this is not the right time to be buying highly, sought-after references for sky-high prices, unless you just have money to burn.

If you do have money to burn, then more power to you.
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Old 19 December 2020, 03:54 PM   #24
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A bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush. You can't rely on an empty promise. Buying grey is a guarantee that you'll get the watch, not some fairy tale in la la land.

If you really want it, buy the watch grey. IF the AD magically comes through for you (purely theoretical), then buy the watch at the AD too, then resell one of them. The net cost will therefore drop below your grey purchase, so it seems a logical course of action.
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Old 19 December 2020, 06:54 PM   #25
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„Hi, Can you update me with the status of my order? Thing is, if I’m not getting it within the next months, I’m strongly considering buying it on the secondary market. And if I pay a premium there, I hope you understand that I’ll recoup that with a nice secondary market discount on my next Lange or JLC purchase. So talk with you soon?“
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Old 19 December 2020, 06:55 PM   #26
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So what,then you have two.Win win .
The sums work out .
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Old 19 December 2020, 07:47 PM   #27
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If you're going to buy Gray you have to be willing to do one of two things.
1. Buy the Gray watch and if your AD calls you sell the Gray watch for a couple of thousand dollar loss.
2. You buy the Gray watch and the AD calls you keep the new watch in the box for 1-2 years and then sell it for most likely a profit and you don't burn your AD connection.

There's always the possibility that the AD is stringing you along and you'll not get a call in which case you still wind up ahead because you got the watch from your Gray man and are wearing it and enjoying it.

But only you can determine what you are willing /able to do. Keep us updated on your decision.
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No watch is worth paying above AD price IMHO, I am happy to wait a reasonable period for a watch but ultimately there is so much choice out there buying Gray seems to me to be pointless.

If I have the funds to buy a BLRO at Grey prices then I would seriously consider saving a bit more so that i can buy a VC Overseas, my dream watch.
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Old 19 December 2020, 10:00 PM   #29
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You're AD does not know when he'll get a watch. The grays and ADs tend to get watches about the same time if the a run of one model is issued. Because many grays get them from dealers. I learned a long time ago: in supply chains, buy from people who have product in stock. Waitlists and promises are worthless.
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You're AD does not know when he'll get a watch. The grays and ADs tend to get watches about the same time if the a run of one model is issued. Because many grays get them from dealers. I learned a long time ago: in supply chains, buy from people who have product in stock. Waitlists and promises are worthless.

Yep, and the last shipment of the year has already arrived. Go grey.
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