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MarcelGuinchard · 12 January 2021, 10:49 PM

Hi fellow Rolex forum members,
I am seeking your advice on this 16718 currently for sale.

What I see is:
- dial looks original
- ding at 12 and 8 on the bezel
- good case (unpolished or refurbished?)
- high price

Do you guys think it is a worthwile purchase? I am wondering
1. whether the price is not too high?
2. whether the case is original and unpolished, or may have been refurbished (by professionals like LAWatchWorks)

Many thanks!
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MarcelGuinchard · 12 January 2021, 10:50 PM

Forgot to mention, price is 19k€

MorningTundra · 12 January 2021, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MarcelGuinchard

Forgot to mention, price is 19k€

Head only? No accessories?

The price is optimistic but not outrageous, considering price of gold lately has been strong.

It’s a beautiful example. The case looks refinished to me (or at least cleaned up to prep it for sale). But nicely done and to a high standard. For me, not a problem.

MarcelGuinchard · 12 January 2021, 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MorningTundra

Head only? No accessories?

The price is optimistic but not outrageous, considering price of gold lately has been strong.

It’s a beautiful example. The case looks refinished to me (or at least cleaned up to prep it for sale). But nicely done and to a high standard. For me, not a problem.

No bracelet, but "box" and some papers.
=> so oaky-ish price?

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GST15 · 12 January 2021, 11:35 PM

I think price is fair, but I would like to see a bracelet, or at least a more suitable replacement. I would source the cost of a bracelet and adjust offer accordingly.

Stan Cooper · 13 January 2021, 12:47 AM

Lack of a bracelet would kill the deal for me at that price. Agree with GST15; deduct the cost of a correct replacement bracelet and make an offer.

Filipão · 13 January 2021, 08:37 AM

You need a bracelet to go with it.

Missing bracelet might mean watch was a daily beater (hence the case treatment) and gold is oh so soft.

If you go gold, go full gold, otherwise 16753 will hold its value better and is much cheaper.

Quand même, jah d'or...

MorningTundra · 13 January 2021, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Filipão

You need a bracelet to go with it.

Missing bracelet might mean watch was a daily beater (hence the case treatment) and gold is oh so soft.

If you go gold, go full gold, otherwise 16753 will hold its value better and is much cheaper.

Quand même, jah d'or...

There’s a lot to be said for the double quick set and dual time on the 16718 over the 16753. It’s quite a handy upgrade. Especially for a regular traveler who plans to wear it regularly.

The bracelet question is a very personal one. I find them just a bit too much gold, and prefer to dress them down with leather. But I totally understand the logic, especially if you’re interested in resale. These are slow to sell at the best of times, and especially so head only.

Tools · 13 January 2021, 10:17 AM

The bracelet is worth half the cost of a solid PM piece

drockadam · 13 January 2021, 11:27 AM

Oh man this with a jubilee bracelet would be incredible.

Dr.Smellody · 13 January 2021, 11:42 AM

Love the watch. Prices have gone up. The lack of a bracelet would not kill the deal for me, but. . . I'd be using it in negotiations.

Here is my 167188 on super jubilee. Probably my favorite watch.

MarcelGuinchard · 13 January 2021, 05:56 PM

Thanks a lot guys, very useful advice.
Personally, I prefer the look of the watch on a strap, looks more understated and « wearable » to me.
However, I have duly noted that this is not a watch that is easy to sell, especially head only.
I guess it probably should go for a price closer to 15k€?

MarcelGuinchard · 13 January 2021, 06:18 PM

Interestingly, there is another 16718 for sale at next Antiquorum Monaco sale (lot 85).
>> condition seems not as good as the first one of this thread ?
>> but price estimate is similar ...

12 January 2021, 10:49 PM	#1
MarcelGuinchard "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Paris Posts: 70	Advice on this GMT 16718 Hi fellow Rolex forum members, I am seeking your advice on this 16718 currently for sale. What I see is: - dial looks original - ding at 12 and 8 on the bezel - good case (unpolished or refurbished?) - high price Do you guys think it is a worthwile purchase? I am wondering 1. whether the price is not too high? 2. whether the case is original and unpolished, or may have been refurbished (by professionals like LAWatchWorks) Many thanks!

13 January 2021, 12:47 AM	#6
Stan Cooper 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Real Name: Stan Cooper Location: Sonoma County, CA Watch: GMT-Master II Posts: 2,889	Lack of a bracelet would kill the deal for me at that price. Agree with GST15; deduct the cost of a correct replacement bracelet and make an offer. __________________ ♛16710 GMT-Master II, ♛1915 Rolex WW1 Trench Watch, Zelos Thresher 500m GMT Meteorite, Zelos Swordfish 40 200m Ti Blood Moon Meteorite, Hamilton Pilot Chronograph, Ball Roadmaster Pilot GMT COSC Chronometer, Zelos Mako 300M Traveler GMT Meteorite, Seiko SSC813 quartz solar powered chronograph It's weird being the same age as old people. - Stan

13 January 2021, 08:37 AM	#7
Filipão "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Real Name: Filipe Location: Lisbon & Wadesdah Watch: Never too many Posts: 1,898	You need a bracelet to go with it. Missing bracelet might mean watch was a daily beater (hence the case treatment) and gold is oh so soft. If you go gold, go full gold, otherwise 16753 will hold its value better and is much cheaper. Quand même, jah d'or... Last edited by Filipão; 13 January 2021 at 08:41 AM.. Reason: Missing info

13 January 2021, 10:17 AM	#9
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,514	The bracelet is worth half the cost of a solid PM piece __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

13 January 2021, 11:27 AM	#10
drockadam "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Adam Location: Ontario, Canada Watch: Pepsi. Posts: 5,749	Oh man this with a jubilee bracelet would be incredible. __________________ - Adam Instagram: @GMTSUBTIME

12 January 2021, 10:50 PM	#2
MarcelGuinchard "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Paris Posts: 70	Forgot to mention, price is 19k€

12 January 2021, 11:35 PM	#5
GST15 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: USA Watch: CHNR/YM/DJ/OP/SUB Posts: 1,972	I think price is fair, but I would like to see a bracelet, or at least a more suitable replacement. I would source the cost of a bracelet and adjust offer accordingly.

13 January 2021, 11:42 AM	#11
Dr.Smellody "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Salem, OR Posts: 5,417	Love the watch. Prices have gone up. The lack of a bracelet would not kill the deal for me, but. . . I'd be using it in negotiations. Here is my 167188 on super jubilee. Probably my favorite watch.

13 January 2021, 05:56 PM	#12
MarcelGuinchard "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Paris Posts: 70	Thanks a lot guys, very useful advice. Personally, I prefer the look of the watch on a strap, looks more understated and « wearable » to me. However, I have duly noted that this is not a watch that is easy to sell, especially head only. I guess it probably should go for a price closer to 15k€?

13 January 2021, 06:18 PM	#13
MarcelGuinchard "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Paris Posts: 70	Interestingly, there is another 16718 for sale at next Antiquorum Monaco sale (lot 85). >> condition seems not as good as the first one of this thread ? >> but price estimate is similar ...

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