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Hitman · 6 May 2009, 09:18 PM

Hi guys

I can get either brand new from an AD, but can only afford one

What do you reckon? I'm looking for lots of different view points and feedback

Cheers

Hitman

padi56 · 6 May 2009, 09:26 PM

Well mechanically the engine the same in both myself not a huge fan of the Cyclops so I would choose the SD.But you must try both on only you can choose the one you like most.The Sub is the classic Rolex but IMHO the SD is just that slightly more exclusive not so many of those around.

chu88y · 6 May 2009, 09:31 PM

having both,I would go for the SD, as people will say to you nice sub,you can say no I spent a few more dollars/pounds and got a SD lol,plus the SD will make you money.I've since bought the deepsea but still like the original SD best.

Andad · 6 May 2009, 09:31 PM

Hi,

Welcome to the forum.

1) I would go SD as rumor has it that they are discontinued.

2) You don't see as many around the traps.

3) you can swim down to 4000ft.

4) you can beat off potential muggers with it.

5) It also looks good on a strap or NATO (sorry JJ).

Buy it ...enjoy wearing it.

There ....I'm done now.

JimSnyder · 6 May 2009, 09:33 PM

Sea Dweller. No Cyclops

Deep Sea · 6 May 2009, 09:35 PM

I've got both, and don't like one better than the other. In fact, I sold the first SD because I never wore it, but have purchased another already.

Like has already been said, the lack of Cyclops is a draw, at least for me. I would rather nobody notice I'm wearing a Rolex, and the cyclops tends to be a give-away. Also, anybody who knows watches will know it's a Rolex, so there really is no hiding.

Finally, you'll be much less likely to see another SD out there 'in the wild', but Subs are everywhere.

Good luck.

springer · 6 May 2009, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hitman

Hi guys

I can get either brand new from an AD, but can only afford one

What do you reckon? I'm looking for lots of different view points and feedback

Cheers

Hitman

I'd go with the Sea Dweller. Clean crystal, no humps or bumps, and they have been discontinued.

chu88y · 6 May 2009, 09:42 PM

having said what I did i'm wearing my LV alot these days

SDDS · 6 May 2009, 09:50 PM

i will go for both

.. but personally i would go the SD.. very unique and its not that type of watch where u can see alot.. and if it was the DEEPSEA you own the world.

Jimbits76 · 6 May 2009, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by padi56

Well mechanically the engine the same in both myself not a huge fan of the Cyclops so I would choose the SD.But you must try both on only you can choose the one you like most.The Sub is the classic Rolex but IMHO the SD is just that slightly more exclusive not so many of those around.

I agree with Peter on this part.

Before I joined I thought the SD looked odd with that tiny date and no cyclops...I actually thought it seemed liek the Sub's poorer relation.

Over the past couple of years my opinion has changed greatly.

In fact if I was presented with a buy option today that included the LV sub, The Sd and the GMT II BLRO...I'd struggle to choose.

As Eddie says also, the SD is often talked about being a retired series. If you can get the latest Model possible and keep it looked after, you'll have what could be possibly deemed a rare classic!

Good luck with whatever you choose, both are tremendous timepieces!

J

sea-dweller · 6 May 2009, 10:51 PM

I have both, but like the 16610 (Sub Date) a little more, as basically, it is lighter and more comfortable. But, the SD is a great watch also ! Try 'em both on and see which one you like.

jmagic · 6 May 2009, 11:00 PM

try them both on and see which one speaks to you more, they are both great watches

karmatp · 6 May 2009, 11:21 PM

I have to agree with my good friend Eddie, get the SD. The only thing I could add is that the SD is also not as common as the sub date, which is a huge bonus for me. Best of luck with your decision.

LuvMyRolex · 6 May 2009, 11:25 PM

I'd get - and got - the Sea-Dweller. It's chunky and funky and as others have said here, just a little less common.

Hitman · 6 May 2009, 11:39 PM

Thank you for all your input so far and welcoming me to the forum. It seems a great place to be.

Looking at everyone's feedback so far it definitely seems there is more of a push for the sea-dweller.

Does anyone have any pics or comparison pics please?

Hitman

Meng16 · 7 May 2009, 01:56 AM

I'd go for the Sea Dweller. I am not a huge fan of the cyclops and I prefer the weight of the SD.

ijen0311 · 7 May 2009, 01:57 AM

Sea-Dweller. At first I thought I should have gotten the sub but I'm glad I didn't

Rolexroz · 7 May 2009, 02:14 AM

I tried a SD maybe 5 years ago when I was thinner and it did not sit well on my wrist being far too tall and heavy, I thereafter wore a Sub instead. Since then I have obviously eaten too much and put on a few kilos and my current watch is an SD, which now sits well and does not seem nearly as tall or heavy.

I would suggest that you place both on your wrist and try them out prior to the decision making, one will feel better than the other. And should your AD have a Yachtmaster, try that too and feel the difference between that and a Sub, it is the most comfortable watch I have ever worn.

Good luck in your choice.

Rolexroz

Hitman · 7 May 2009, 02:15 AM

Guys, i don't have this to hand but how much does the SD currently retail for?

Rolexroz · 7 May 2009, 02:34 AM

£3980 in the UK and they are normally not too keen on discounting as they know it is a dead model and bound to appreciate in time.

A few hundred quid less from some dealers/watch enthusiasts.

DS/B MINI S · 7 May 2009, 02:39 AM

I prefer the Sea-Dweller because so many others wear the Sub

Rolexroz · 7 May 2009, 02:41 AM

And another thing, a lot of AD's hung onto what they assumed were the last of the SD's supplied from last August onwards, these were M serial numbered watches. The same AD's are now selling their M models as newly arrived and replacing them, for their own collection, with the most recent V serial numbered watches. All M's cost 3200 - 3600 when first available, only the V's are (make that should be) at the latest price.

Rolexroz

lexar · 7 May 2009, 03:09 AM

You can say that same about the current Sub Model 16610. It should be replaced in 2010 by a new model and therefore will be a "collectors".
You basically have to go with what you like better.. but the feedback also is that the SD is heavier and thicker.

submariner16610 · 7 May 2009, 03:11 AM

absolutely
the classic submariner

Arrows58 · 7 May 2009, 05:09 AM

The SD is the one you should get.

paulgjohnston · 7 May 2009, 05:24 AM

Had a SD 4 years ago and regretted selling it almost straight away. I bought another 6 weeks ago or so and this time its for keeps. Both are lovely watches as you know but personally I prefer the SD for the "no cyclops" option but each to their own...either way enjoy!

TimeOnHand · 7 May 2009, 05:30 AM

Both are great choices...
Try them both on and see which one feels better on your wrist. The Sub is a very comfortable fit... the SD is a bit heavier and taller on the wrist...

My SD gets a lot of wrist time...

And here is my SUB...

PeterT · 7 May 2009, 06:16 AM

The trick is finding an SD in the UK shops now, especially a V serial.

Peter

Watch Fan · 7 May 2009, 08:11 AM

Tough choice, I couldn't decide either for quite awhile. Between the 2, the Sub always felt and looked a little nice to me. So...... instead, I got a Deepsea and a Sub Date, now I am happy. Good luck!

Wildwing · 7 May 2009, 10:14 AM

Both would be great choices, but I would prefer the Sea Dweller:

6 May 2009, 09:18 PM	#1
Hitman "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: UK Posts: 4	Sub-Date or Sea-Dweller Hi guys I can get either brand new from an AD, but can only afford one What do you reckon? I'm looking for lots of different view points and feedback Cheers Hitman

6 May 2009, 09:26 PM	#2
padi56 "TRF" Life Patron Join Date: Jun 2005 Real Name: Peter Location: Llanfairpwllgwyng Watch: ing you. Posts: 53,063	Well mechanically the engine the same in both myself not a huge fan of the Cyclops so I would choose the SD.But you must try both on only you can choose the one you like most.The Sub is the classic Rolex but IMHO the SD is just that slightly more exclusive not so many of those around. __________________ ICom Pro3 All posts are my own opinion and my opinion only. "The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power to tell just when the hands will stop. Now is the only time you actually own the time, Place no faith in time, for the clock may soon be still for ever." Good Judgement comes from experience,experience comes from Bad Judgement,.Buy quality, cry once; buy cheap, cry again and again. www.mc0yad.club Second in command CEO and left handed watch winder

6 May 2009, 09:31 PM	#4
Andad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,533	Hi, Welcome to the forum. 1) I would go SD as rumor has it that they are discontinued. 2) You don't see as many around the traps. 3) you can swim down to 4000ft. 4) you can beat off potential muggers with it. 5) It also looks good on a strap or NATO (sorry JJ). Buy it ...enjoy wearing it. There ....I'm done now. Attached Images __________________ E

6 May 2009, 09:33 PM	#5
JimSnyder "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Real Name: Jim Snyder Location: Ohio Watch: Ask me later..... Posts: 7,726	Sea Dweller. No Cyclops __________________ "You ain't lived, 'til you've had your tires rotated by a red-headed women."

6 May 2009, 09:35 PM	#6
Deep Sea "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Martin Location: NC Watch: A Rolex or two Posts: 952	I've got both, and don't like one better than the other. In fact, I sold the first SD because I never wore it, but have purchased another already. Like has already been said, the lack of Cyclops is a draw, at least for me. I would rather nobody notice I'm wearing a Rolex, and the cyclops tends to be a give-away. Also, anybody who knows watches will know it's a Rolex, so there really is no hiding. Finally, you'll be much less likely to see another SD out there 'in the wild', but Subs are everywhere. Good luck. __________________ Deep Sea A few Rolex & a Tudor Sub An Omega & a bunch of Breitling

6 May 2009, 09:31 PM	#3
chu88y Banned Join Date: May 2009 Location: LONDON Watch: SDDS Posts: 660	having both,I would go for the SD, as people will say to you nice sub,you can say no I spent a few more dollars/pounds and got a SD lol,plus the SD will make you money.I've since bought the deepsea but still like the original SD best.

6 May 2009, 09:42 PM	#8
chu88y Banned Join Date: May 2009 Location: LONDON Watch: SDDS Posts: 660	having said what I did i'm wearing my LV alot these days

6 May 2009, 09:50 PM	#9
SDDS "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: Yazan Location: Canada Posts: 4,782	i will go for both.. but personally i would go the SD.. very unique and its not that type of watch where u can see alot.. and if it was the DEEPSEA you own the world. __________________ Patek Philippe 5167 Patek Philippe 5905P black dial Rolex Deepsea 116660 M series Rolex Oysterquartz 17000 N series Rolex OP 41MM 124300 Green Dial

6 May 2009, 10:51 PM	#11
sea-dweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Dennis Location: Bay Area - 925 Posts: 40,018	I have both, but like the 16610 (Sub Date) a little more, as basically, it is lighter and more comfortable. But, the SD is a great watch also ! Try 'em both on and see which one you like. __________________ TRF Member #6699 (since September 2007)

6 May 2009, 11:00 PM	#12
jmagic "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: USA Posts: 55	try them both on and see which one speaks to you more, they are both great watches

6 May 2009, 11:21 PM	#13
karmatp "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Trevor Location: Arizona Posts: 5,740	I have to agree with my good friend Eddie, get the SD. The only thing I could add is that the SD is also not as common as the sub date, which is a huge bonus for me. Best of luck with your decision. __________________ My grails:

6 May 2009, 11:25 PM	#14
LuvMyRolex Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Andrew Location: Japan Watch: Sea-Dweller Posts: 93	I'd get - and got - the Sea-Dweller. It's chunky and funky and as others have said here, just a little less common.

6 May 2009, 11:39 PM	#15
Hitman "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: UK Posts: 4	Thank you for all your input so far and welcoming me to the forum. It seems a great place to be. Looking at everyone's feedback so far it definitely seems there is more of a push for the sea-dweller. Does anyone have any pics or comparison pics please? Hitman

7 May 2009, 01:56 AM	#16
Meng16 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Canada Watch: Sea Dweller "V" Posts: 102	I'd go for the Sea Dweller. I am not a huge fan of the cyclops and I prefer the weight of the SD.

7 May 2009, 01:57 AM	#17
ijen0311 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Jen Location: Jax, FL Watch: Sea-Dweller Posts: 3,977	Sea-Dweller. At first I thought I should have gotten the sub but I'm glad I didn't

7 May 2009, 02:14 AM	#18
Rolexroz "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Roz Location: Scotland Watch: Orange hand Exp11 Posts: 103	SD v Sub Date I tried a SD maybe 5 years ago when I was thinner and it did not sit well on my wrist being far too tall and heavy, I thereafter wore a Sub instead. Since then I have obviously eaten too much and put on a few kilos and my current watch is an SD, which now sits well and does not seem nearly as tall or heavy. I would suggest that you place both on your wrist and try them out prior to the decision making, one will feel better than the other. And should your AD have a Yachtmaster, try that too and feel the difference between that and a Sub, it is the most comfortable watch I have ever worn. Good luck in your choice. Rolexroz

7 May 2009, 02:15 AM	#19
Hitman "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: UK Posts: 4	Guys, i don't have this to hand but how much does the SD currently retail for?

7 May 2009, 02:34 AM	#20
Rolexroz "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Roz Location: Scotland Watch: Orange hand Exp11 Posts: 103	Price £3980 in the UK and they are normally not too keen on discounting as they know it is a dead model and bound to appreciate in time. A few hundred quid less from some dealers/watch enthusiasts.

7 May 2009, 02:39 AM	#21
DS/B MINI S "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Mike Location: Charlotte NC Watch: SD & Exp II Posts: 961	I prefer the Sea-Dweller because so many others wear the Sub __________________ 16600 Sea-Dweller 16570 Explorer II (White Dial)

7 May 2009, 02:41 AM	#22
Rolexroz "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Roz Location: Scotland Watch: Orange hand Exp11 Posts: 103	And another thing, a lot of AD's hung onto what they assumed were the last of the SD's supplied from last August onwards, these were M serial numbered watches. The same AD's are now selling their M models as newly arrived and replacing them, for their own collection, with the most recent V serial numbered watches. All M's cost 3200 - 3600 when first available, only the V's are (make that should be) at the latest price. Rolexroz

7 May 2009, 03:09 AM	#23
lexar "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 30	You can say that same about the current Sub Model 16610. It should be replaced in 2010 by a new model and therefore will be a "collectors". You basically have to go with what you like better.. but the feedback also is that the SD is heavier and thicker.

7 May 2009, 03:11 AM	#24
submariner16610 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: united states Watch: submariner,daytona Posts: 707	absolutely the classic submariner

7 May 2009, 05:09 AM	#25
Arrows58 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ian Location: England Watch: Sea-Dweller Posts: 273	The SD is the one you should get. __________________ And remember 'You fail 100% of the chances you don't take'

7 May 2009, 05:24 AM	#26
paulgjohnston Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Paul Location: scotland Posts: 149	Had a SD 4 years ago and regretted selling it almost straight away. I bought another 6 weeks ago or so and this time its for keeps. Both are lovely watches as you know but personally I prefer the SD for the "no cyclops" option but each to their own...either way enjoy!

7 May 2009, 05:30 AM	#27
TimeOnHand "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Kevin Location: Hong Kong Watch: Rolex Air-King Posts: 4,468	Both are great choices... Try them both on and see which one feels better on your wrist. The Sub is a very comfortable fit... the SD is a bit heavier and taller on the wrist... My SD gets a lot of wrist time... And here is my SUB... __________________ Instagram: timeonhand1010

7 May 2009, 06:16 AM	#28
PeterT "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: England Watch: 16613 16710 16600 Posts: 1,021	The trick is finding an SD in the UK shops now, especially a V serial. Peter

7 May 2009, 08:11 AM	#29
Watch Fan "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: California Watch: Sea Dweller Posts: 676	Tough choice, I couldn't decide either for quite awhile. Between the 2, the Sub always felt and looked a little nice to me. So...... instead, I got a Deepsea and a Sub Date, now I am happy. Good luck!

7 May 2009, 10:14 AM	#30
Wildwing "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 593	Both would be great choices, but I would prefer the Sea Dweller: Attached Images

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