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Old 13 April 2021, 05:14 AM   #1
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I'm convinced people only hate this thing because of those 8 additional letters on the dial.
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Old 13 April 2021, 05:16 AM   #2
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Old 13 April 2021, 05:19 AM   #3
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Old 13 April 2021, 05:19 AM   #4
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I'm convinced people only hate this thing because of those 8 additional letters on the dial.
Solid post number 14.

Explorer is an OP with a specific dial. The spirit of the Explorer is...exploration. TT just makes no sense.
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Old 13 April 2021, 05:20 AM   #5
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Old 13 April 2021, 05:22 AM   #6
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Old 13 April 2021, 05:23 AM   #7
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Solid post number 14.

Explorer is an OP with a specific dial. The spirit of the Explorer is...exploration. TT just makes no sense.
But then doesn't a full gold Sub make no sense either, or a TT SD43?
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Old 13 April 2021, 05:24 AM   #8
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Solid post number 14.

Explorer is an OP with a specific dial. The spirit of the Explorer is...exploration. TT just makes no sense.
Actually, the spirit of the Exp1 is to celebrate the successful ascent of Everest, which was done wearing an OP. As a celebration watch, and not the actual exploration watch, perhaps a bit of gold is fitting after all.
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Old 13 April 2021, 05:25 AM   #9
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Without much thought,I find it purposeless .
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Old 13 April 2021, 05:28 AM   #10
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I'm convinced people only hate this thing because of those 8 additional letters on the dial.
People will hate on anything that differs from their expectations.

They expect an Exp1 to always be SS and SS only....

Same with the Seadweller. Anything new and not "Normal" will get a bit of resistance.

SD43 Two-Tone. ---- At first I didn't like it, but it grew on me.

GMT Pepsi Meteor --- At first I didn't like it, but it grew on me.

Yellow Gold Watches --- At first I didn't like it, but it grew on me.

Watches I love... but my peers don't always share my love for:

Yachtmaster
SD4k
Ploprof
DD36

I actually LIKE the Two-Tone 36mm Exp1.

I know I'm in the minority, but if my AD has one, I will look to like, if looking liking move.
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Old 13 April 2021, 05:32 AM   #11
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I think it's a pretty little watch. Considering they didn't disco the SS, I don't see what the stress is about. Nothing wrong with a little gold.
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Old 13 April 2021, 05:33 AM   #12
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Explorer just means OP with the 3-6-9 dial. Sometimes they call them Explorers and sometimes OP's. I wouldn't get too hung up on the name. It looks ok to me but not my style.
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Old 13 April 2021, 05:41 AM   #13
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Explorer just means OP with the 3-6-9 dial. Sometimes they call them Explorers and sometimes OP's. I wouldn't get too hung up on the name. It looks ok to me but not my style.
My thoughts exactly. I see people going on and on about the "tool watch heritage" of the Explorer being somehow sullied by this TT model. It just makes me laugh given how the Explorer is simply an OP with a different dial and clasp. Even more funny when you consider Sir Edmund Hillary was wearing an OP when he summited Everest.
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Old 13 April 2021, 05:47 AM   #14
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Air King = Explorer 1 = OP = Milgauss
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Old 13 April 2021, 05:48 AM   #15
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Old 13 April 2021, 05:51 AM   #16
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I think the TT Explorer is a combination of the Asian market growing rapidly and preferring yellow gold and smaller references and the growing female market for sports models. I think it's Rolex testing those waters a bit. If it's successful I wouldn't be surprised to see more sports models in smaller sizes and more PM variants.
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I dont see Rhett wearing one ....
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Old 13 April 2021, 05:53 AM   #18
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I'm convinced people only hate this thing because of those 8 additional letters on the dial.
Who convinced you? You are wrong anyway.
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Old 13 April 2021, 05:55 AM   #19
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Is it any more wrong than a PM Sub? I kind of like it. Don’t get me wrong, I’ll never part with my 214270 but this little oddball is growing on me. It will be interesting to see how obtainable it is at the AD.


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Old 13 April 2021, 05:55 AM   #20
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Old 13 April 2021, 05:55 AM   #21
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My thoughts exactly. I see people going on and on about the "tool watch heritage" of the Explorer being somehow sullied by this TT model. It just makes me laugh given how the Explorer is simply an OP with a different dial and clasp. Even more funny when you consider Sir Edmund Hillary was wearing an OP when he summited Everest.
Yep, the 1953-1958 OP watches were not yet their own "Explorer" line.

"bUt iT WaS aN eXpLoReR dIaL"

No.

"It was also in 1953 that the Explorer reference 6350 was released. While not technically the first Explorer, it is the first to feature the Explorer name on the dial. Featuring Arabic numerals at 3, 6, and 9, a 36mm case size, and black dial, this watch was the foundation for the Explorer design language going forward."

Explorer didn't exist as it's own line until 1959. (Ref. 6610) It was then replaced by the 1016 in 1963.

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/ro...u-need-to-know

http://www.woundforlife.com/2015/08/...eference-6610/
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Old 13 April 2021, 06:08 AM   #22
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simply not a fan. dont love the op either.
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Old 13 April 2021, 06:09 AM   #23
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Who convinced you? You are wrong anyway.
I reached that conclusion based on the fact that most negative comments I've read about the watch read something along the lines of: "The Explorer is a tool watch. Two Tone makes no sense on an Explorer". Meanwhile, people are lining up to buy OP's with funky dials and yellow gold accents.

Since the Explorer is essentially an OP with a 3-6-9 dial and a different clasp, it doesn't take a rocket surgeon to put two and two together. If Rolex launched this watch in the Oyster Perpetual line, it wouldn't have drawn nearly the amount of vitriol it's received.
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Old 13 April 2021, 06:12 AM   #24
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Old 13 April 2021, 06:17 AM   #25
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But then doesn't a full gold Sub make no sense either, or a TT SD43?
Sure, but this thread is about the Explorer.
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Old 13 April 2021, 06:30 AM   #26
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The Explorer is definitely not a tool watch because it has no function other than time.

The definition of tool is something that does something. Tool watch means a watch that also does something else. A time only watch is not a tool watch. What makes the Submariner a tool watch is it has a rotating bezel to time dives. What makes a GMT a tool watch is it tracks a 2nd time zone, and a 3rd.

"Professional" series and "Tool" are not synonyms. I understand the confusion though. Adding a soft iron shield does not make a Milgauss a tool watch, nor does adding the green numbers on an Airking make it a tool watch.

Calling anything a Tool watch is really outdated anyways and probably shouldn't be done anymore. It's like people calling their Escalade their truck.

Rolex's are jewelry not tools. Don't kid yourself. Enlightenment!
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Old 13 April 2021, 06:37 AM   #27
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The Explorer is definitely not a tool watch because it has no function other than time.

The definition of tool is something that does something. Tool watch means a watch that also does something else. A time only watch is not a tool watch. What makes the Submariner a tool watch is it has a rotating bezel to time dives. What makes a GMT a tool watch is it tracks a 2nd time zone, and a 3rd.

"Professional" series and "Tool" are not synonyms. I understand the confusion though. Adding a soft iron shield does not make a Milgauss a tool watch, nor does adding the green numbers on an Airking make it a tool watch.

Calling anything a Tool watch is really outdated anyways and probably shouldn't be done anymore. It's like people calling their Escalade their truck.

Rolex's are jewelry not tools. Don't kid yourself. Enlightenment!
I always took "tool" to mean itvwas more about function than decoration...or builtbforba specific job.

The fact that the Explorer only tells the time just makes it a time telling tool. A time only Celinni (sp?) would not be a tool watch

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By nature the OP is more watch than anyone needs. 100+M water resistant, anti magnetic and shock resistant, lume. That makes it a dive watch, an engineering watch, and a night time watch.

Sometimes I wonder if people know that the numbered bezels really don't do anything except make it so you don't have to remember 1 number while doing your activity.

Like if you need to come up after 15 minutes of a dive, just add 15 minutes to your current time and remember that number. If you need to know what time it is in LA and you live in NY just subtract 3 from your current hour. People act like these things just cannot be done without a rotating bezel or GMT hand.

I often see people say things like, I use my submariner or Daytona all the time for cooking. Like really? You can't just add 30 minutes of cook time in your head to the current time? If it's 5:14 and it needs to roast for hour 30 minutes I just remember at 5:44 I need to pull it out rather than turn the bezel to 5:44 and just completely not think about how much time is passing. It's almost harder for me to use the bezel than not use it.
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For me the dichotomy arises due to the fact that the Explorer has typically been seen as the under the radar option for those that wanted the quality, reliability and durability of a Rolex without it being obvious to anyone but the wearer...add TT to the equation and it loses what was a big attraction for many.

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The Explorer is definitely not a tool watch because it has no function other than time.

The definition of tool is something that does something. Tool watch means a watch that also does something else. A time only watch is not a tool watch. What makes the Submariner a tool watch is it has a rotating bezel to time dives. What makes a GMT a tool watch is it tracks a 2nd time zone, and a 3rd.

"Professional" series and "Tool" are not synonyms. I understand the confusion though. Adding a soft iron shield does not make a Milgauss a tool watch, nor does adding the green numbers on an Airking make it a tool watch.

Calling anything a Tool watch is really outdated anyways and probably shouldn't be done anymore. It's like people calling their Escalade their truck.

Rolex's are jewelry not tools. Don't kid yourself. Enlightenment!
Well said.

If you are properly exploring, take a g shock. Practically indestructible and the strap will snap before your hand comes off. It’s more accurate, has proper night illumination, multiple time zones, count down timer, stopwatch, alarm, and so on.

Don’t take a Rolex. Any Rolex.

As for the TT explorer? I like it. And it probably has more historical significance than many on here actually realise.
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