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gastown604 · 18 April 2021, 05:01 AM

I have been on the magical "waitlist" for almost 3 years for a black Submariner Date with this AD. When the new 41mm arrived last year, they told me they will migrate all existing people on the list to the 41mm.

However, this wasn't the case. I called again at the beginning of this year, they said they will get me a 40mm because they do still receive them. When I inquire about the 41mm since supposedly everyone has been moved to the new 41mm list, they told me 41mm actually has a "new list" now, and many are already on that list. If I want to join that list, I would start at the bottom.

This month, I got the call that my 40mm black Submariner Date is here. I picked it up and now I have a 116610LN with a warranty card dated April 2021.

I would say the purchase experience with this AD is pretty disappointing. It is known that this AD bundles the hot Rolex models. The reason why I am on the waitlist for 3 years is because people who were willing to bundling got in front of people who didn't. Also, they didn't move people on waitlist to the 41mm as promised.

Still, I believe that the 41mm waitlist talk is BS. My guess is they don't want people on the 40mm list to get the 41mm because they can bundle 41mm with other products, and people who want to bundle a black Sub Date would never want the older version. So, 40mm will just be allocated to people who didn't want to bundle and on the waitlist.

brandrea · 18 April 2021, 05:06 AM

Congratulations, it’s still an awesome reference IMO

kieselguhr · 18 April 2021, 05:06 AM

Congratulations! Sorry to hear about your experience. Hindsight is 20/20 but I would take this as a learning experience and likely work with multiple ADs to increase your odds of finding an honest one. Despite what some pessimistic members may say, there are honest ADs out there.

jimcameron · 18 April 2021, 05:11 AM

Enjoy your new Sub,......and never deal with those jerks again.

Krash · 18 April 2021, 05:14 AM

Congratulations. Fantastic watch.

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Brich436 · 18 April 2021, 05:16 AM

There is no list. They get the “hot” models in every shipment and the owners decide who to sell them too. The better a customer you are the more they will cater to you. It’s that simple.

If you got a Sub with zero purchase history..... you did amazing. You also got a discontinued reference new from the AD. That’s a huge win.

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WestCoastS · 18 April 2021, 05:19 AM

WAs it from Alberni st? They seem to have stock come in that is a last years and or discontinued model

alphadweller · 18 April 2021, 05:20 AM

Better late than never. Congratulations, great piece, great sturdy and accurate movement.

rmlovett1 · 18 April 2021, 05:34 AM

You got a great one! Congrats!

campfire · 18 April 2021, 05:48 AM

Congratulations.

CHRONOLEX · 18 April 2021, 05:49 AM

You got the right one!

brucethemanlee · 18 April 2021, 05:50 AM

Congrats

Although personally I prefer and got the the 41mm

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Stoffel · 18 April 2021, 05:54 AM

Just part exchange it at a grey dealer if you prefer the new one, shouldn’t cost you too much.

subx · 18 April 2021, 06:08 AM

I wonder where your AD gets their watches from, never heard of 40mm subs still shipping in 2021....

SS Oyster · 18 April 2021, 06:12 AM

My too, got it today ... cheers!

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legacy404 · 18 April 2021, 06:20 AM

Got on the list for a 40mm sub. Delivered a 40mm sub. Think they did alright even if it was a bit misleading, they probably bungled that internally. Can't blame them if they still are getting shipments of the old one which they need to find homes for. Congrats!

gmtsubdweller · 18 April 2021, 06:24 AM

Congratulations on your new incoming !

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skipstar · 18 April 2021, 06:25 AM

Congrats and enjoy the Sub you wanted in the 1st place!

Tensai · 18 April 2021, 06:27 AM

Congrats.
Plus the 116610LN is much better than the new reference.
Enjoy!

rambo99 · 18 April 2021, 06:27 AM

40mm is as good as the 41mm black sub if not better imo.

Vivalas · 18 April 2021, 07:20 AM

I find it surprising that Rolex are still shipping a watch discontinued in September last year 6 months later. Seems odd to me, especially as the new sub came straight out in September as originally it was supposed to be released months earlier but cancelled due to the virus. So logic would tell me that the 40mm subs had stopped being made a long time back.

I wonder if your AD has had it in their safe for 6 months and only now decided to sell it? Either that or it somehow got passed over/temporarily forgotten about?

garyk · 18 April 2021, 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gastown604

I have been on the magical "waitlist" for almost 3 years for a black Submariner Date with this AD. When the new 41mm arrived last year, they told me they will migrate all existing people on the list to the 41mm.

However, this wasn't the case. I called again at the beginning of this year, they said they will get me a 40mm because they do still receive them. When I inquire about the 41mm since supposedly everyone has been moved to the new 41mm list, they told me 41mm actually has a "new list" now, and many are already on that list. If I want to join that list, I would start at the bottom.

This month, I got the call that my 40mm black Submariner Date is here. I picked it up and now I have a 116610LN with a warranty card dated April 2021.

I would say the purchase experience with this AD is pretty disappointing. It is known that this AD bundles the hot Rolex models. The reason why I am on the waitlist for 3 years is because people who were willing to bundling got in front of people who didn't. Also, they didn't move people on waitlist to the 41mm as promised.

Still, I believe that the 41mm waitlist talk is BS. My guess is they don't want people on the 40mm list to get the 41mm because they can bundle 41mm with other products, and people who want to bundle a black Sub Date would never want the older version. So, 40mm will just be allocated to people who didn't want to bundle and on the waitlist.

Shame on these ADs. You got a great watch imo, I like the 41s but no way I would have turned down the 40mm...

DuckaDiesel · 18 April 2021, 07:34 AM

Interesting that they are still getting the 40mm models.

Congratulations, a sub is a sub

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RJG · 18 April 2021, 07:45 AM

You just got a highly coveted Rolex model - one that's very recently discontinued - with a 5-year warranty card whose time just now started.

This is - in my opinion- all kinds of WIN !

Robert Bruce · 18 April 2021, 07:45 AM

Wow. I sure hope they at least used some lube! Maybe bought you a drink at least? Not a pretty story.

rfs · 18 April 2021, 07:46 AM

Congratulations!

aayates · 18 April 2021, 07:48 AM

I would flip for the 41mm. Certainly the AD can't be mad about that...

iTreelex · 18 April 2021, 07:48 AM

Congrats but wow 3 years and you got a disappointing experience. Was it worth it? If you don't get your watch within a few months just go grey.

I love how everyone said that there's no discernable difference with the 40 vs. 41 and now everyone's raving about the 41 lmao. Thick ol' clasp.

TswaneNguni · 18 April 2021, 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gastown604

I picked it up and now I have a 116610LN with a warranty card dated April 2021.

Thats a rare birdie !!

Look after it well .

Overall,the best Sub/Date .

ninjin · 18 April 2021, 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gastown604

I have been on the magical "waitlist" for almost 3 years for a black Submariner Date with this AD. When the new 41mm arrived last year, they told me they will migrate all existing people on the list to the 41mm.

However, this wasn't the case. I called again at the beginning of this year, they said they will get me a 40mm because they do still receive them. When I inquire about the 41mm since supposedly everyone has been moved to the new 41mm list, they told me 41mm actually has a "new list" now, and many are already on that list. If I want to join that list, I would start at the bottom.

This month, I got the call that my 40mm black Submariner Date is here. I picked it up and now I have a 116610LN with a warranty card dated April 2021.

I would say the purchase experience with this AD is pretty disappointing. It is known that this AD bundles the hot Rolex models. The reason why I am on the waitlist for 3 years is because people who were willing to bundling got in front of people who didn't. Also, they didn't move people on waitlist to the 41mm as promised.

Still, I believe that the 41mm waitlist talk is BS. My guess is they don't want people on the 40mm list to get the 41mm because they can bundle 41mm with other products, and people who want to bundle a black Sub Date would never want the older version. So, 40mm will just be allocated to people who didn't want to bundle and on the waitlist.

So... let me understand it. The AD has given you money (you can flip and make a profit) yet you are still bitchin.

Just take it to a grey and swap it for the 41mm.

You just can't satisfy some people.

18 April 2021, 05:01 AM	#1
gastown604 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Canada Posts: 83	On waitlist for 3 years and got a 40mm Sub. I have been on the magical "waitlist" for almost 3 years for a black Submariner Date with this AD. When the new 41mm arrived last year, they told me they will migrate all existing people on the list to the 41mm. However, this wasn't the case. I called again at the beginning of this year, they said they will get me a 40mm because they do still receive them. When I inquire about the 41mm since supposedly everyone has been moved to the new 41mm list, they told me 41mm actually has a "new list" now, and many are already on that list. If I want to join that list, I would start at the bottom. This month, I got the call that my 40mm black Submariner Date is here. I picked it up and now I have a 116610LN with a warranty card dated April 2021. I would say the purchase experience with this AD is pretty disappointing. It is known that this AD bundles the hot Rolex models. The reason why I am on the waitlist for 3 years is because people who were willing to bundling got in front of people who didn't. Also, they didn't move people on waitlist to the 41mm as promised. Still, I believe that the 41mm waitlist talk is BS. My guess is they don't want people on the 40mm list to get the 41mm because they can bundle 41mm with other products, and people who want to bundle a black Sub Date would never want the older version. So, 40mm will just be allocated to people who didn't want to bundle and on the waitlist.

18 April 2021, 05:14 AM	#5
Krash 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Florida Watch: Sub, DJ41, GMT Posts: 8,261	On waitlist for 3 years and got a 40mm Sub. Congratulations. Fantastic watch. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

18 April 2021, 05:16 AM	#6
Brich436 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Real Name: Brian Location: East Coast Watch: 124270 Posts: 984	There is no list. They get the “hot” models in every shipment and the owners decide who to sell them too. The better a customer you are the more they will cater to you. It’s that simple. If you got a Sub with zero purchase history..... you did amazing. You also got a discontinued reference new from the AD. That’s a huge win. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ ROLEX: 16234-Datejust / 16570-Explorer 2 / 116610LN-Submariner / 124270-Explorer 1 / 126710BLNR-GMT-Master 2 TUDOR: M79030-B Black Bay 58 / M25717N-1 Pelagos FXD

18 April 2021, 05:19 AM	#7
WestCoastS "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Canada Watch: Rolex Posts: 541	WAs it from Alberni st? They seem to have stock come in that is a last years and or discontinued model __________________ Submariner 116613LB Blusey Sky Dweller TT Black Dial DD 40 Silver Dial on [[[Yellow Gold]]]

18 April 2021, 06:08 AM	#14
subx 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: usa Posts: 542	I wonder where your AD gets their watches from, never heard of 40mm subs still shipping in 2021.... __________________ 30 years of collecting Submariners.

18 April 2021, 05:06 AM	#2
brandrea 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 78,097	Congratulations, it’s still an awesome reference IMO

18 April 2021, 05:06 AM	#3
kieselguhr "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Real Name: Nick Location: Las Vegas Watch: 1601 Posts: 10,623	Congratulations! Sorry to hear about your experience. Hindsight is 20/20 but I would take this as a learning experience and likely work with multiple ADs to increase your odds of finding an honest one. Despite what some pessimistic members may say, there are honest ADs out there.

18 April 2021, 05:11 AM	#4
jimcameron "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: ByDawns Earlylite Watch: 16800 Posts: 3,580	Enjoy your new Sub,......and never deal with those jerks again.

18 April 2021, 05:20 AM	#8
alphadweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Real Name: Vic Location: Spain Watch: SD43 Posts: 6,198	Better late than never. Congratulations, great piece, great sturdy and accurate movement.

18 April 2021, 05:34 AM	#9
rmlovett1 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Richard Location: GA Watch: YTBD Posts: 23,509	You got a great one! Congrats!

18 April 2021, 05:48 AM	#10
campfire "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: here Posts: 2,104	Congratulations.

18 April 2021, 05:49 AM	#11
CHRONOLEX 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: USA Posts: 1,629	You got the right one!

18 April 2021, 05:50 AM	#12
brucethemanlee "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: 1 of 13 Colonies Posts: 8,575	Congrats Although personally I prefer and got the the 41mm Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

18 April 2021, 05:54 AM	#13
Stoffel Banned Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: UK Posts: 143	Just part exchange it at a grey dealer if you prefer the new one, shouldn’t cost you too much.

18 April 2021, 06:12 AM	#15
SS Oyster 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: USA Posts: 9,218	My too, got it today ... cheers! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

18 April 2021, 06:20 AM	#16
legacy404 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: New York Posts: 57	Got on the list for a 40mm sub. Delivered a 40mm sub. Think they did alright even if it was a bit misleading, they probably bungled that internally. Can't blame them if they still are getting shipments of the old one which they need to find homes for. Congrats!

18 April 2021, 06:24 AM	#17
gmtsubdweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: Bedfordshire Posts: 49	Congratulations on your new incoming ! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

18 April 2021, 06:25 AM	#18
skipstar "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Real Name: Kevin Location: Northeast Watch: My first, Sub Date Posts: 1,941	Congrats and enjoy the Sub you wanted in the 1st place!

18 April 2021, 06:27 AM	#19
Tensai "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: tyo nyc fla ack Watch: all the good ones Posts: 1,009	Congrats. Plus the 116610LN is much better than the new reference. Enjoy!

18 April 2021, 06:27 AM	#20
rambo99 Banned Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Tokyo Watch: SD43,PAM1616,Hulk Posts: 3,567	40mm is as good as the 41mm black sub if not better imo.

18 April 2021, 07:20 AM	#21
Vivalas "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Real Name: Stephen Location: UK Watch: AP Posts: 2,646	I find it surprising that Rolex are still shipping a watch discontinued in September last year 6 months later. Seems odd to me, especially as the new sub came straight out in September as originally it was supposed to be released months earlier but cancelled due to the virus. So logic would tell me that the 40mm subs had stopped being made a long time back. I wonder if your AD has had it in their safe for 6 months and only now decided to sell it? Either that or it somehow got passed over/temporarily forgotten about?

18 April 2021, 07:34 AM	#23
DuckaDiesel "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: USA Posts: 106	Interesting that they are still getting the 40mm models. Congratulations, a sub is a sub Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

18 April 2021, 07:45 AM	#24
RJG "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2020 Real Name: Jim Location: Seattle Watch: 116610LN Posts: 404	You just got a highly coveted Rolex model - one that's very recently discontinued - with a 5-year warranty card whose time just now started. This is - in my opinion- all kinds of WIN ! __________________ Rolex Explorer II (Polar) 216570 Rolex 116610LN A man with a watch knows what time it is... a man with two watches is never really sure.

18 April 2021, 07:45 AM	#25
Robert Bruce Banned Join Date: Jan 2021 Location: Toronto Canada Posts: 244	Wow. I sure hope they at least used some lube! Maybe bought you a drink at least? Not a pretty story.

18 April 2021, 07:46 AM	#26
rfs "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: USA Posts: 2,391	Congratulations!

18 April 2021, 07:48 AM	#27
aayates "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: atlanta, GA, USA Posts: 914	I would flip for the 41mm. Certainly the AD can't be mad about that...

18 April 2021, 07:48 AM	#28
iTreelex "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Watchrecon Posts: 1,352	Congrats but wow 3 years and you got a disappointing experience. Was it worth it? If you don't get your watch within a few months just go grey. I love how everyone said that there's no discernable difference with the 40 vs. 41 and now everyone's raving about the 41 lmao. Thick ol' clasp.

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