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r00t · 6 May 2021, 07:47 AM

They even don’t bother to fix it in photos on a website.

How lucky are you? I have dot slightly to the left.

jojosnr · 6 May 2021, 10:03 AM

Not acceptable. Poor quality control. That said, I also have a ?deep" diving watch that has a similar problem, although less prominent. I just live with it.

mobster600 · 6 May 2021, 10:43 AM

Bring it into an AD or email Panerai. You paid good money your watch, it should be perfect.

thsiao · 6 May 2021, 11:28 AM

Unacceptable. Both my Submersibles are straight.

enjoythemusic · 6 May 2021, 12:49 PM

Easy fix.

r00t · 6 May 2021, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by enjoythemusic

Easy fix.

Can ad fix it? Is it easily adjustable? Is there photos of bezel disassembled?

Andad · 6 May 2021, 05:39 PM

Is it out by one click?

Can you spin it round and line it up?

r00t · 6 May 2021, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Andad

Is it out by one click?

Can you spin it round and line it up?

It’s more like 1/4 of the click.

Andad · 6 May 2021, 07:44 PM

Yes, I thought it might be more than 1/60th.

Cru Jones · 6 May 2021, 08:48 PM

It happens. My LVc’s pip was straightened at service. I forgot to ask. RSC went ahead and adjusted it.

enjoythemusic · 6 May 2021, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by r00t

Can ad fix it? Is it easily adjustable? Is there photos of bezel disassembled?

Alas, have not seen photos as we do for Rolex, yet ADs with a watchmaker should be able to sort it out in a timely manner. Panerai USA is VERY responsive in fixing these things in a very timely manner, and shipping is free (call then and ask for shipping materials).

r00t · 7 May 2021, 02:04 AM

Oh, that’s not easy. Looks like there are different alighment at different rotations and some of indices are aligned and some not at the same time.

So there are so many things that’s can go wrong:
1) uneven bezel ratchet
2) slightly rotated dial inside the case
3) misplaced indices on the dial
4) misplaced indices on the bezel
5) slightly rotated dial against ratchet
6) dial is not co-axial to the bezel

Panerai definitely not for OCD obsessed watch freak. Looks like I need to exhale and enjoy Italian style wabi-sabi. But for asking price I expected much better tolerances. ;))))

enjoythemusic · 7 May 2021, 02:15 AM

Root, whatever you do never buy a vintage Ferrari car. Those hand-built cars were pretty much all unique with hand-hammered panels, etc.

r00t · 7 May 2021, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by enjoythemusic

Root, whatever you do never buy a vintage Ferrari car. Those hand-built cars were pretty much all unique with hand-hammered panels, etc.

Yes!!! I’ll never buy Ferrari exactly for that reason. The new ones are not ideal as well. I’ve got 911 turbo s for that reason - cold, German, pragmatic, fast, all stitching, panel gaps is flawless. Oh, I couldn’t find any visible issue with that car.

Do you guys know how to let go OCD and perfectionism and start to enjoy not ideal things? ;)

enjoythemusic · 7 May 2021, 02:23 AM

What light do you use to check spidering on the paint?

r00t · 7 May 2021, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by enjoythemusic

What light do you use to check spidering on the paint?

When you drive ~200mph down the autobahn, paint got ruined quickly. Small dust specks turns into bullets. It’s like sandblasting. :/ but panel gaps still perfect, not like Tesla’s…

r00t · 7 May 2021, 03:02 AM

Best watch for me is Lange (could’t find any flaw with a loupe) - but panerai is so damn sexy. Can’t resist.

r00t · 7 May 2021, 03:09 AM

See here, official photo. 6 is aligned and 12 not. 🤨

enjoythemusic · 7 May 2021, 04:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by r00t

When you drive ~200mph down the autobahn, paint got ruined quickly. Small dust specks turns into bullets. It’s like sandblasting. :/ but panel gaps still perfect, not like Tesla’s…

Tesla?

Cool car Porsche! What are your lap times around Nordschleife?

r00t · 7 May 2021, 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by enjoythemusic

Tesla?

Cool car Porsche! What are your lap times around Nordschleife?

I have both model S and 911. Tesla is very wabi-sabi. True handmade. No body panel gaps are the same. Each one is unique. I crashed car at The Ring, no more records for me there.

thsiao · 7 May 2021, 11:02 AM

It is a bit appalling that their stock photo would show the bezel being misaligned… someone needs to be fired lol.

r00t · 10 May 2021, 09:03 PM

What’s you, guys, thinking – is it worth to bother fix this or not? What would you do? ;)

enjoythemusic · 10 May 2021, 10:29 PM

i'd leave it as is. Really, it's fine imho.

ks58 · 1 June 2021, 12:50 PM

If it’s bothering you, get it fixed. If you’re asking us, yes it’s bothering you, get it fixed.

r00t · 2 September 2021, 10:14 PM

Gentlemen, have you seen photos of submersible with rotating bezel removed? Or there is service documentation regarding that?

ap1 · 6 September 2021, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ks58

If it’s bothering you, get it fixed. If you’re asking us, yes it’s bothering you, get it fixed.

If, lol.

stockae92 · 8 September 2021, 05:11 AM

No acceptable at this price range. Get it fix if I were you.

Tools · 8 September 2021, 09:48 AM

It is purely aesthetics, do what you feel you need to do.

Functionally, the bezel has no relationship to the dial and can be "parked" wherever you want.

roger.bolton · 9 September 2021, 09:47 AM

My 2c, thats a very very minor issues. Just be glad that put your watch in a box when posting!

6 May 2021, 07:47 AM	#1
r00t "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: World Posts: 50	Is it ok to have slightly misaligned bezel on submersible? They even don’t bother to fix it in photos on a website. How lucky are you? I have dot slightly to the left. Attached Images

6 May 2021, 11:28 AM	#4
thsiao "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,248	Unacceptable. Both my Submersibles are straight. __________________ Instagram @lifeofawis www.lifeofawis.com

6 May 2021, 12:49 PM	#5
enjoythemusic 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Real Name: Steven Location: Glocal Posts: 21,161	Easy fix. __________________ __________________ ----> Was Great Seeing Everyone At The TRF December 9 Tampa Meetup <---- https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=968133 Love timepieces and want to become a Watchmaker? Rolex has a sensational school. www.RolexWatchmakingTrainingCenter.com/ Sent from my Etch A Sketch using String Theory.

6 May 2021, 05:39 PM	#7
Andad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,521	Is it out by one click? Can you spin it round and line it up? __________________ E

6 May 2021, 07:44 PM	#9
Andad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,521	Yes, I thought it might be more than 1/60th. __________________ E

6 May 2021, 10:03 AM	#2
jojosnr "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Timbuktu Posts: 379	Not acceptable. Poor quality control. That said, I also have a ?deep" diving watch that has a similar problem, although less prominent. I just live with it.

6 May 2021, 10:43 AM	#3
mobster600 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: USA Watch: Yes Posts: 1,509	Bring it into an AD or email Panerai. You paid good money your watch, it should be perfect.

6 May 2021, 08:48 PM	#10
Cru Jones 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Paris, France Posts: 35,296	It happens. My LVc’s pip was straightened at service. I forgot to ask. RSC went ahead and adjusted it.

7 May 2021, 02:04 AM	#12
r00t "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: World Posts: 50	Oh, that’s not easy. Looks like there are different alighment at different rotations and some of indices are aligned and some not at the same time. So there are so many things that’s can go wrong: 1) uneven bezel ratchet 2) slightly rotated dial inside the case 3) misplaced indices on the dial 4) misplaced indices on the bezel 5) slightly rotated dial against ratchet 6) dial is not co-axial to the bezel Panerai definitely not for OCD obsessed watch freak. Looks like I need to exhale and enjoy Italian style wabi-sabi. But for asking price I expected much better tolerances. ;))))

7 May 2021, 02:15 AM	#13
enjoythemusic 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Real Name: Steven Location: Glocal Posts: 21,161	Root, whatever you do never buy a vintage Ferrari car. Those hand-built cars were pretty much all unique with hand-hammered panels, etc. __________________ __________________ ----> Was Great Seeing Everyone At The TRF December 9 Tampa Meetup <---- https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=968133 Love timepieces and want to become a Watchmaker? Rolex has a sensational school. www.RolexWatchmakingTrainingCenter.com/ Sent from my Etch A Sketch using String Theory.

7 May 2021, 02:23 AM	#15
enjoythemusic 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Real Name: Steven Location: Glocal Posts: 21,161	What light do you use to check spidering on the paint? __________________ __________________ ----> Was Great Seeing Everyone At The TRF December 9 Tampa Meetup <---- https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=968133 Love timepieces and want to become a Watchmaker? Rolex has a sensational school. www.RolexWatchmakingTrainingCenter.com/ Sent from my Etch A Sketch using String Theory.

7 May 2021, 03:02 AM	#17
r00t "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: World Posts: 50	Best watch for me is Lange (could’t find any flaw with a loupe) - but panerai is so damn sexy. Can’t resist.

7 May 2021, 03:09 AM	#18
r00t "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: World Posts: 50	See here, official photo. 6 is aligned and 12 not. 🤨

7 May 2021, 11:02 AM	#21
thsiao "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,248	It is a bit appalling that their stock photo would show the bezel being misaligned… someone needs to be fired lol. __________________ Instagram @lifeofawis www.lifeofawis.com

10 May 2021, 09:03 PM	#22
r00t "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: World Posts: 50	What’s you, guys, thinking – is it worth to bother fix this or not? What would you do? ;) Attached Images

10 May 2021, 10:29 PM	#23
enjoythemusic 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Real Name: Steven Location: Glocal Posts: 21,161	i'd leave it as is. Really, it's fine imho. __________________ __________________ ----> Was Great Seeing Everyone At The TRF December 9 Tampa Meetup <---- https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=968133 Love timepieces and want to become a Watchmaker? Rolex has a sensational school. www.RolexWatchmakingTrainingCenter.com/ Sent from my Etch A Sketch using String Theory.

1 June 2021, 12:50 PM	#24
ks58 Banned Join Date: Apr 2021 Location: United States Posts: 1,533	If it’s bothering you, get it fixed. If you’re asking us, yes it’s bothering you, get it fixed.

2 September 2021, 10:14 PM	#25
r00t "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: World Posts: 50	Gentlemen, have you seen photos of submersible with rotating bezel removed? Or there is service documentation regarding that?

8 September 2021, 05:11 AM	#27
stockae92 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Socal Posts: 4,962	No acceptable at this price range. Get it fix if I were you. __________________ 135 ├┼┼╕ 246 R

8 September 2021, 09:48 AM	#28
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,514	It is purely aesthetics, do what you feel you need to do. Functionally, the bezel has no relationship to the dial and can be "parked" wherever you want. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

9 September 2021, 09:47 AM	#29
roger.bolton "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Location: USA Posts: 135	My 2c, thats a very very minor issues. Just be glad that put your watch in a box when posting!

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