IF you sell a hot sports watch after 3 + years of ownership ?

[Frank McKay]

I’m curious if your AD will look at you as a “flipper” if you sold a hot watch after 3+ years of ownership. Is there a general consensus on this? Is there a time period of ownership where selling before or after will deem you a flipper?

It’s sad that I even have to ask this question. I feel I shouldn’t have to be penalized by my AD on future watches if I sold a watch they sold me after over 3 years of ownership.

Thoughts on this? Thanks as always.

[WatchOut4It]

How would your AD even know?

If it doesn’t sing to you, move on. Don’t stress over what the AD might think. They’ll never know. Unless you tell them.

[Keanuchan]

Originally Posted by Frank McKay

I’m curious if your AD will look at you as a “flipper” if you sold a hot watch after 3+ years of ownership. Is there a general consensus on this? Is there a time period of ownership where selling before or after will deem you a flipper?

It’s sad that I even have to ask this question. I feel I shouldn’t have to be penalized by my AD on future watches if I sold a watch they sold me after over 3 years of ownership.

Thoughts on this? Thanks as always.

Read some threads ago and some said 3yrs+ is OK and not be seen as flippers. But I guess it is various.......

[Dougiebaby]

Originally Posted by Frank McKay

I’m curious if your AD will look at you as a “flipper” if you sold a hot watch after 3+ years of ownership. Is there a general consensus on this? Is there a time period of ownership where selling before or after will deem you a flipper?

It’s sad that I even have to ask this question. I feel I shouldn’t have to be penalized by my AD on future watches if I sold a watch they sold me after over 3 years of ownership.

Thoughts on this? Thanks as always.

Frank ... McKay ... lives in Chicago, IL ... we should be able to track down which “hot sports model” he has in our database ... ok, we have all the information we need. Carry on people, nothing to see here.


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[VonSomething]

If you want to be sure you maintain a good relationship, use it as payment towards a new watch.

If marketvalue is 18k, you could ask for 14k. The AD will have made money 3 times and I'm sure will appreciate your loyalty.

Or just sell it at full market value yourself and hope your AD won't find out and hold a grudge. I have heard of plenty people reporting sales listings to AD's if they get a hold of the details from the original sale.

[michaelodonnell123]

The AD doesn't even know you're alive. He has his own problems in life.

[ks58]

Originally Posted by Frank McKay

I’m curious if your AD will look at you as a “flipper” if you sold a hot watch after 3+ years of ownership. Is there a general consensus on this? Is there a time period of ownership where selling before or after will deem you a flipper?

It’s sad that I even have to ask this question. I feel I shouldn’t have to be penalized by my AD on future watches if I sold a watch they sold me after over 3 years of ownership.

Thoughts on this? Thanks as always.

The AD I know doesn’t want a flipper. They want someone to enjoy the watch. Unless you’re in a bad situation, then don’t sell your watch. Just like you feel they shouldn’t penalize you, they have 20 other people that look at their a Rolex as a lifelong purchase. If they find out about it, I doubt they’d be happy.

[karteo]

So probably I am wrong but isn't it supposed that we own a watch and not the opposite?

If we came into such an era where ADs control our will and actions then what next?

Sell it. Even if your AD is some kind of CIA (Central Investigator Antiflipping) there are always other ADs or greys or, and that may surprise a lot, other great watch brands.

It's just watches. We own them and do whatever we like with them. Even the idea of someone watching what I do with my watch is repulsive. It's a matter of principles

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[tanask211]

Was told by my AD to hold on my new purchase for minimum of 2 years before selling to dealer.

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[padi56]

Originally Posted by WatchOut4It

How would your AD even know?

If it doesn’t sing to you, move on. Don’t stress over what the AD might think. They’ll never know. Unless you tell them.

Have to agree just cannot understand all this AD nonsense today.

[kieselguhr]

Dude. Your property. You do with it as you want.

[Keanuchan]

Originally Posted by Dougiebaby

Frank ... McKay ... lives in Chicago, IL ... we should be able to track down which “hot sports model” he has in our database ... ok, we have all the information we need. Carry on people, nothing to see here.


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[Nairn1980]

Originally Posted by WatchOut4It

How would your AD even know?

If it doesn’t sing to you, move on. Don’t stress over what the AD might think. They’ll never know. Unless you tell them.

They can and do find out in many many ways. I’ve known many people to have been caught out....eg new buyer calls AD on back of the card to check it came from them, or they take it in for sizing, or they take it to the AD to go off for warranty work.

I’d definitely say 3 plus years is totally fine, but don’t assume they’ll never find out.

[Nairn1980]

Originally Posted by Frank McKay

I’m curious if your AD will look at you as a “flipper” if you sold a hot watch after 3+ years of ownership. Is there a general consensus on this? Is there a time period of ownership where selling before or after will deem you a flipper?

It’s sad that I even have to ask this question. I feel I shouldn’t have to be penalized by my AD on future watches if I sold a watch they sold me after over 3 years of ownership.

Thoughts on this? Thanks as always.

I’d definitely say 3 years is absolutely fine. However if it’s a regular thing that ultimately you don’t keep what you buy, they may still decide not to sell you more, that’s their choice

[drrd]

Originally Posted by kieselguhr

Dude. Your property. You do with it as you want.

And the AD can do likewise

[scooba]

Originally Posted by VonSomething

If you want to be sure you maintain a good relationship, use it as payment towards a new watch.

If marketvalue is 18k, you could ask for 14k. The AD will have made money 3 times and I'm sure will appreciate your loyalty.

Or just sell it at full market value yourself and hope your AD won't find out and hold a grudge. I have heard of plenty people reporting sales listings to AD's if they get a hold of the details from the original sale.

Exactly this ! this is what i always do

[winst]

It’s an interesting one this. What if I decided I prefer the new 36mm Explorer to the 39mm I bought from an AD last year. I bought that watch as I had always wanted an Explorer and had a BB41 Blue Dial that I loved but always felt it was too big, I was worried they were going to bring out a new Explorer in 41mm. If I decide to buy the new 36mm I am buying exactly the same model but the updated one, I might decide the new smaller size is a better size for me.

If Rolex wouldn’t have updated it I wouldn’t have been interested. Would I try and trade it in with the AD where at the very best they might do a straight swop or would I sell the 39mm to someone else for market price. I reckon the difference would be at least £1500 - £2000 which isn’t an inconsiderable sum.

[rootbeer7]

If they cared they would have piles of these pieces in their safes waiting for the right purchaser! They don’t care. They’re salespeople. They need sales.

[gnuyork]

It's your watch. Keep it. Sell it. Smash it. It's your choice because you paid for it with your own money.

[Robine]

How long are you supposed to keep a watch?

[AK797]

Depends on if your AD likes or values you, if he does, 6 months is not flipping, if he doesn't 6 years is.

[vinny84]

Unless the AD helped pay for your watch, you can do as you please.

[Brich436]

Ok I'm going to chime in here.... the watch is yours - do with it what you want.

My AD keeps the warranty card for 30 days and then mails it to you. This is their internal way of preventing flipping. Every AD is different.

I will tell you what I would do....

Let's say for example I wanted to sell my Sub 116610LN and move up to the new 41mm model. I would call my SA and express my interest in the new model. I would ask him to give me what I paid for the old sub as trade in on the new model - which many AD's will do to let you "trade up" in watch.

Now the market value is MUCH higher and we all know that. So yes you can sell it to DavidSW for more - but remember you are asking for a favor with an allocation to a hot model. The AD will make a couple k on the resale of your old watch and you get the brand new model you wanted. This is called a win / win and gives the AD an incentive to make 2 sales commissions..... which will help you out on the next one. Yes my way you will not make the extra $1500 of profit you could have with a grey market dealer but you solidify your relationship with your AD.

YMMV.

[Robine]

Exactly - do you want the new watch, or do you just want to make a profit from selling the old one?

[Harry-57]

Originally Posted by Frank McKay

I’m curious if your AD will look at you as a “flipper” if you sold a hot watch after 3+ years of ownership.

My AD would not care. I can't speak for your AD.

[Rogerab]

So, for some, the AD influences the way you act before buying, and now some are talking about their influence after buying. Is this what owning a Rolex has come to?

[zengineer]

Originally Posted by Brich436

Ok I'm going to chime in here.... the watch is yours - do with it what you want.



My AD keeps the warranty card for 30 days and then mails it to you. This is their internal way of preventing flipping. Every AD is different.



I will tell you what I would do....



Let's say for example I wanted to sell my Sub 116610LN and move up to the new 41mm model. I would call my SA and express my interest in the new model. I would ask him to give me what I paid for the old sub as trade in on the new model - which many AD's will do to let you "trade up" in watch.



Now the market value is MUCH higher and we all know that. So yes you can sell it to DavidSW for more - but remember you are asking for a favor with an allocation to a hot model. The AD will make a couple k on the resale of your old watch and you get the brand new model you wanted. This is called a win / win and gives the AD an incentive to make 2 sales commissions..... which will help you out on the next one. Yes my way you will not make the extra $1500 of profit you could have with a grey market dealer but you solidify your relationship with your AD.



YMMV.

It sounds like you are giving the AD more cash than you'd have to give a grey dealer to make that trade. What exactly is the value of building this type of AD relationship ?

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[VonSomething]

Originally Posted by zengineer

It sounds like you are giving the AD more cash than you'd have to give a grey dealer to make that trade. What exactly is the value of building this type of AD relationship ?

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Being prioritized above others for future purchases.

[Hollie_Rollie]

AD doesn’t care what you do once you leave the building. These days if you received a hot model you’re most likely a returning customer anyways, that’s all they care about.


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[garyk]

The official flipper ownership interval is.....oh wait, there isn’t one.