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djhiram · 22 May 2009, 01:59 AM

Ladies and Gents first off a big thanks! Thanks to all of you who share your passion and knowledge for these fine timepieces we all love on a daily basis here on TRF. The amount of knowledge you share with us can't be found in one place anywhere else and for that I applaud you

I would like to call upon that knowledge one more time to ask about Panerai watches. I would like to purchase one in the near future (Maybe around October as a birthday gift to myself

) and would like to know which models you would all recommend along with pictures if possible. I definitely would prefer a 44mm and somewhere in the 3500 - 4K price range.

Thank you in advance for all your help and knowledge as always

ijen0311 · 22 May 2009, 02:02 AM

Head on over to the Seabold Building, lots of gently used Panerai's there. I'd check it out first.

Jocke · 22 May 2009, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by djhiram

Ladies and Gents first off a big thanks! Thanks to all of you who share your passion and knowledge for these fine timepieces we all love on a daily basis here on TRF. The amount of knowledge you share with us can't be found in one place anywhere else and for that I applaud you

I would like to call upon that knowledge one more time to ask about Panerai watches. I would like to purchase one in the near future (Maybe around October as a birthday gift to myself

) and would like to know which models you would all recommend along with pictures if possible. I definitely would prefer a 44mm and somewhere in the 3500 - 4K price range.

Thank you in advance for all your help and knowledge as always

Maybe you should look here first.

Panerai in deep view.

Jocke

bodybump · 22 May 2009, 02:05 AM

any particular model you looking? Pm sent...Pam 88 or 90..111 are awesome too...

Lamone · 22 May 2009, 03:48 AM

Pam's are great!
The Submersible line is great. I love the PAM 25.

Tony-GB · 22 May 2009, 08:01 AM

My Advice would be to go for a titanium base - something like a 176 (44mm). I would try & get something more modern than any of the older models. I know they are worth money, but the build quality wasn't there. Pam 55's are increasing in value but were/are notorious for poor build quality. I've got an incoming 292 which has a black ceramic case & is manual wind. Here is a pic of my old 1998 Sub 24 A series.

djhiram · 22 May 2009, 08:50 AM

Wow, Jocke - Thanks for the heads up. I had no idea.

Thank all of you for your input! I guess I have some thinking to do! LOL

SirLoki · 22 May 2009, 09:03 AM

i admire them but there has not been one that catches my eye yet. They look better in display cabinets or on other enthusiast's wrists....

nc42acc · 22 May 2009, 09:07 AM

Jocke you Panerai party pooper....

JF23 · 22 May 2009, 09:15 AM

Can't go wrong with the 111 for a first PAM.

drtooth73 · 22 May 2009, 09:25 AM

How about a Panerai Ferrari?

drtooth73 · 22 May 2009, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by JF23

Can't go wrong with the 111 for a first PAM.

Simply beautiful

diablojota · 22 May 2009, 09:57 AM

Wow, Jocke! Thanks for sharing that link. Quite surprising as to the build quality. That is somewhat of a let down.

KKB · 22 May 2009, 10:21 AM

Thanks, Jocke. You are always a source of the most valuable information, not to mention humor.

GMTJOHNNY · 22 May 2009, 01:35 PM

I thougt hard about both HUBLOT and PAM. One thing bothers me and it bothers me a LOT.
1- That extra sub-dial with NO #'s indicating what it actually does or represents I find bothersome.
Hublot has the same thing and to me it looks out of place. Is it a second hand??
The Rolex Daytona has all the sub dials clearly marked so you know what they are there for.

2- The GMT PAM to me is pretty useless as there is no rotating bezel, just the 4th hand with no real clear markings for it to align with.

3- I DO like the very basic model PAM for their size and look, but with #1 and #2 above, they will not be getting my $$ yet. Same for Hublot.

And this of course is all IMHO....

Trurolexer · 22 May 2009, 07:49 PM

Soon...You will be a Panerai Geek...

WELCOME TO THE BLUESIDE!!!

Trurolexer · 22 May 2009, 07:55 PM

BTW in the range 3,500-4,000 you can get Historic models such 000, 005, 111 or 112.

niels74 · 22 May 2009, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Trurolexer

BTW in the range 3,500-4,000 you can get Historic models such 000, 005, 111 or 112.

Im with TR here, then add the 183 for the Rad. Anyway buy 1 the rest will follow ..

good luck.

louie · 22 May 2009, 09:14 PM

that is an E series,at least 6-7 years old now.I suspect the previous owner did not have it service. To me this is wear and tear so i'm not surprise...as for the movt. We all know its ETA6497,Panerai just decorated it to be more attractive for the display back...if anyone would do the maths,yesh pannies is way overpriced esp those with the ETA movts.

mfer · 22 May 2009, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by djhiram

Wow, Jocke - Thanks for the heads up. I had no idea.

Thank all of you for your input! I guess I have some thinking to do! LOL

C'mon. Isolated incident. The watch is 6years old. Service is needed folks.

:sheese:

Trurolexer · 22 May 2009, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mfer

C'mon. Isolated incident. The watch is 6years old. Service is needed folks.

:sheese:

Yup...Sometimes Sh!t Happen...

djhiram · 22 May 2009, 11:49 PM

I know, it could have just been a bad apple...and I realize that. A friend of mine bought a DJ and had to send it back to RSC 3 times for a problem it had with the movement. If it could happen to our beloved Rolex watches, it can happen to any watch out there! Thanks for all the input thus far....I have always liked Panerai watches ever since seeing a client of mine walk into the bank with one on about 5 years ago. I will have one soon and yes...it starts with one...and onward from there LOL

Nica64 · 23 May 2009, 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djhiram

Wow, Jocke - Thanks for the heads up. I had no idea.

Thank all of you for your input! I guess I have some thinking to do! LOL

Quote:

Originally Posted by djhiram

I know, it could have just been a bad apple...and I realize that. A friend of mine bought a DJ and had to send it back to RSC 3 times for a problem it had with the movement. If it could happen to our beloved Rolex watches, it can happen to any watch out there! Thanks for all the input thus far....I have always liked Panerai watches ever since seeing a client of mine walk into the bank with one on about 5 years ago. I will have one soon and yes...it starts with one...and onward from there LOL

Hiram, welcome to the dark side!!

Let me tell you something coming from a fellow Miamian

don't worry about that article on TZ this guy bought a used Pam who knows what the old owner did to it before

, I love Rolex too and there's a lot of complains about them too, no brand is perfect, don't let something like this push you away from a nice watch like Panerai.

I own two already and I love them both, maybe start with a 000 or 111.....

Here is a pic of my 000 with a Rob Montana Vintage strap!!

djhiram · 23 May 2009, 02:41 AM

I LOVE the look of that - so simple. It says so little but so much at the same time! That's a beautiful watch you have there. Enjoy it and wear it in good health

c2tcardin · 23 May 2009, 03:12 AM

I wouldn't be turned off just by one owners experience with a 7 year old watch that should have been serviced years ago. Also I think its kind of funny how they're dissapointed that the decorative work didn't extend under the covered parts. Kinda makes me think Infiniti should have painted both sides of my cars sheet metal in exterior paint.

I would say that any time you buy something as mechanically complex as a modern watch you have an increased chance of problems, and I don't care who made it.

oyster21 · 23 May 2009, 04:03 AM

Hiram, you can narrow down your search to which model you're most in love with.
Is it Luminor? Radiomir? or Sub model? it'll be much easier to maneuver from there.

Next question would be, do you like a plain simple dial? or with second hand?

With 3.5-4K price range, you can easily steal the basic models. I would spare some $$$ from the budget for the straps

Just my 2 cents.

Good luck on your decision and keep us posted.

djhiram · 23 May 2009, 03:04 PM

I like the Radiomirs and the Luminors the most - I guess mostly the simple dials although the second hand doesn't bother me at all. I saw some of TR's in some prior posts that looked GREAT! It's funny you should mention the straps also.. about how much do those go for? Thanks for your help guys!

Trurolexer · 23 May 2009, 03:13 PM

Which Radiomir you like, Hiram?

djhiram · 23 May 2009, 03:23 PM

I'm not sure but I think it's one of your vintage ones...I remember you posting pictures of 2 of your Pams in a previous thread. Please pardon my ignorance...i'm not too familiar with the Pam models...hence this thread

djhiram · 23 May 2009, 03:29 PM

Here is the link to the thread TR..I LOVE BOTH OF THEM!!! LOL http://rolexforums.com/showthread.ph...ght=trurolexer

22 May 2009, 02:05 AM	#4
bodybump ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ 2024 SubLV41 Sponsor & Boutique Seller Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Oscar Location: Florida Watch: Me!!! Posts: 23,233	any particular model you looking? Pm sent...Pam 88 or 90..111 are awesome too... __________________

22 May 2009, 08:01 AM	#6
Tony-GB "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Tony Location: Oxfordshire, UK Watch: 116680 & 116622 Posts: 3,953	My Advice would be to go for a titanium base - something like a 176 (44mm). I would try & get something more modern than any of the older models. I know they are worth money, but the build quality wasn't there. Pam 55's are increasing in value but were/are notorious for poor build quality. I've got an incoming 292 which has a black ceramic case & is manual wind. Here is a pic of my old 1998 Sub 24 A series. Attached Images __________________ "...why oh why, didn't I take the blue pill...?" http://www.helenanddouglas.org.uk/ www.cheetah.org

22 May 2009, 09:57 AM	#13
diablojota "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Real Name: Frank Location: Chattanooga, TN Watch: SS Submariner Date Posts: 4,042	Wow, Jocke! Thanks for sharing that link. Quite surprising as to the build quality. That is somewhat of a let down. __________________ RTFT - Read The Friggin' Thread FcB

22 May 2009, 10:21 AM	#14
KKB "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: Eric Location: San Diego, CA Watch: GMTIIC Posts: 605	Thanks, Jocke. You are always a source of the most valuable information, not to mention humor. __________________ 116234 \| 116710 \| OMEGA 2551.80 \| Reverso GMT

22 May 2009, 01:35 PM	#15
GMTJOHNNY "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: John Location: LONG ISLAND, NY Watch: 2007 DAY DATE 18KT Posts: 1,378	I thougt hard about both HUBLOT and PAM. One thing bothers me and it bothers me a LOT. 1- That extra sub-dial with NO #'s indicating what it actually does or represents I find bothersome. Hublot has the same thing and to me it looks out of place. Is it a second hand?? The Rolex Daytona has all the sub dials clearly marked so you know what they are there for. 2- The GMT PAM to me is pretty useless as there is no rotating bezel, just the 4th hand with no real clear markings for it to align with. 3- I DO like the very basic model PAM for their size and look, but with #1 and #2 above, they will not be getting my $$ yet. Same for Hublot. And this of course is all IMHO.... __________________ ROLEX DAY DATE 118238 (2007) ROLEX DAY DATE 18238 (1997) ROLEX GMT 16750 PEPSI (1987) ROLEX AIR KING 14000 (1991) ROLEX GMTIIC TT 116713LN (2008)

22 May 2009, 01:59 AM	#1
djhiram Banned Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Hiram Location: Miami, FL Watch: 16600 Sea Dweller Posts: 1,233	Thinking about adding a Panerai Ladies and Gents first off a big thanks! Thanks to all of you who share your passion and knowledge for these fine timepieces we all love on a daily basis here on TRF. The amount of knowledge you share with us can't be found in one place anywhere else and for that I applaud you I would like to call upon that knowledge one more time to ask about Panerai watches. I would like to purchase one in the near future (Maybe around October as a birthday gift to myself ) and would like to know which models you would all recommend along with pictures if possible. I definitely would prefer a 44mm and somewhere in the 3500 - 4K price range. Thank you in advance for all your help and knowledge as always

22 May 2009, 02:02 AM	#2
ijen0311 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Jen Location: Jax, FL Watch: Sea-Dweller Posts: 3,977	Head on over to the Seabold Building, lots of gently used Panerai's there. I'd check it out first.

22 May 2009, 03:48 AM	#5
Lamone Banned Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NYC Watch: ya mawt! Posts: 3,448	Pam's are great! The Submersible line is great. I love the PAM 25.

22 May 2009, 08:50 AM	#7
djhiram Banned Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Hiram Location: Miami, FL Watch: 16600 Sea Dweller Posts: 1,233	Wow, Jocke - Thanks for the heads up. I had no idea. Thank all of you for your input! I guess I have some thinking to do! LOL

22 May 2009, 09:07 AM	#9
nc42acc "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Marty Location: North Carolina Watch: out!!!!! Posts: 502	Jocke you Panerai party pooper....

22 May 2009, 09:15 AM	#10
JF23 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: S Florida Posts: 1,899	Can't go wrong with the 111 for a first PAM.

22 May 2009, 09:25 AM	#11
drtooth73 Banned Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: W. Stutman Location: Motor City Watch: TT GMT IIC Posts: 2,223	How about a Panerai Ferrari?

22 May 2009, 07:49 PM	#16
Trurolexer Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: USA Watch: 5513MaxiI+PreComex Posts: 18,421	Soon...You will be a Panerai Geek... WELCOME TO THE BLUESIDE!!!

22 May 2009, 07:55 PM	#17
Trurolexer Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: USA Watch: 5513MaxiI+PreComex Posts: 18,421	BTW in the range 3,500-4,000 you can get Historic models such 000, 005, 111 or 112.

22 May 2009, 09:14 PM	#19
louie "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Lewis Location: Earth Watch: The Beast Posts: 1,352	that is an E series,at least 6-7 years old now.I suspect the previous owner did not have it service. To me this is wear and tear so i'm not surprise...as for the movt. We all know its ETA6497,Panerai just decorated it to be more attractive for the display back...if anyone would do the maths,yesh pannies is way overpriced esp those with the ETA movts. __________________ " I THINK PERFECTION IS UGLY. SOMEWHERE IN THE THINGS HUMANS MAKE, I WANT TO SEE SCARS, FAILURE, DISORDER AND DISTORTION" - YOHJI YAMAMOTO

22 May 2009, 11:49 PM	#22
djhiram Banned Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Hiram Location: Miami, FL Watch: 16600 Sea Dweller Posts: 1,233	I know, it could have just been a bad apple...and I realize that. A friend of mine bought a DJ and had to send it back to RSC 3 times for a problem it had with the movement. If it could happen to our beloved Rolex watches, it can happen to any watch out there! Thanks for all the input thus far....I have always liked Panerai watches ever since seeing a client of mine walk into the bank with one on about 5 years ago. I will have one soon and yes...it starts with one...and onward from there LOL

23 May 2009, 02:41 AM	#24
djhiram Banned Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Hiram Location: Miami, FL Watch: 16600 Sea Dweller Posts: 1,233	I LOVE the look of that - so simple. It says so little but so much at the same time! That's a beautiful watch you have there. Enjoy it and wear it in good health

23 May 2009, 03:12 AM	#25
c2tcardin "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Jeff Location: NH Watch: Pam 312 & DJ II Posts: 312	I wouldn't be turned off just by one owners experience with a 7 year old watch that should have been serviced years ago. Also I think its kind of funny how they're dissapointed that the decorative work didn't extend under the covered parts. Kinda makes me think Infiniti should have painted both sides of my cars sheet metal in exterior paint. I would say that any time you buy something as mechanically complex as a modern watch you have an increased chance of problems, and I don't care who made it. __________________ Cheers, Jeff ------------------------------------------------------ PAM 312, DJ II

23 May 2009, 04:03 AM	#26
oyster21 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: 2 continents Posts: 198	Hiram, you can narrow down your search to which model you're most in love with. Is it Luminor? Radiomir? or Sub model? it'll be much easier to maneuver from there. Next question would be, do you like a plain simple dial? or with second hand? With 3.5-4K price range, you can easily steal the basic models. I would spare some $$$ from the budget for the straps Just my 2 cents. Good luck on your decision and keep us posted. __________________ ------------------------- several watches...

23 May 2009, 03:04 PM	#27
djhiram Banned Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Hiram Location: Miami, FL Watch: 16600 Sea Dweller Posts: 1,233	I like the Radiomirs and the Luminors the most - I guess mostly the simple dials although the second hand doesn't bother me at all. I saw some of TR's in some prior posts that looked GREAT! It's funny you should mention the straps also.. about how much do those go for? Thanks for your help guys!

23 May 2009, 03:13 PM	#28
Trurolexer Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: USA Watch: 5513MaxiI+PreComex Posts: 18,421	Which Radiomir you like, Hiram?

23 May 2009, 03:23 PM	#29
djhiram Banned Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Hiram Location: Miami, FL Watch: 16600 Sea Dweller Posts: 1,233	I'm not sure but I think it's one of your vintage ones...I remember you posting pictures of 2 of your Pams in a previous thread. Please pardon my ignorance...i'm not too familiar with the Pam models...hence this thread

23 May 2009, 03:29 PM	#30
djhiram Banned Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Hiram Location: Miami, FL Watch: 16600 Sea Dweller Posts: 1,233	Here is the link to the thread TR..I LOVE BOTH OF THEM!!! LOL http://rolexforums.com/showthread.ph...ght=trurolexer

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