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Old 24 June 2021, 06:22 AM   #1
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Watch pro say prices are cooling

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Old 24 June 2021, 06:27 AM   #2
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Old 24 June 2021, 06:30 AM   #3
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Old 24 June 2021, 06:54 AM   #4
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Sounds good to me, and potentially true for two reasons - firstly, prices can't (and don't) keep going up and up forever no matter what the commodity is, and secondly, as more things open up post-Covid, all that "spare" money that has been being spent on Rolexes by bored rich people and the more errr... "transient" watch fans, will start going on holidays, travel, nights out, cars, etc.
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Old 24 June 2021, 07:11 AM   #5
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It does seem like Rolex is in some sort of bubble. I like the exclusivity but glad to see prices may come back down to Earth. When you start seeing 15 year olds wanting to get on AD waitlists because they're so long, then you obviously know you're in a weird Rolex environment that's crazy.
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Old 24 June 2021, 07:15 AM   #6
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Old 24 June 2021, 07:27 AM   #7
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absolutely prices are softening. Watches are sitting for a while at greys for those that are paying attention.
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Old 24 June 2021, 07:30 AM   #8
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I've been into Rolex for around 12-13 years.

Sold my 5512.. the 5513, 116528, 1016, and 16610LV are all being put out to pasture.

I'm going down to just the Hulk and Red Grape.

I will say from the watches I follow.. nothing looks softer.
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Old 24 June 2021, 07:34 AM   #9
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I have noticed some model's prices have come down from the insane grey prices of a months ago. Unfortunately for the various predictors on TRF, the softening has nothing to do with anything other than economics/market conditions.

The only hope I have is that supply catches up with the market at some point.
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Old 24 June 2021, 07:34 AM   #10
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Last week at on of the big house’s auction a Hulk and pointy Kermit that had what I thought were pretty high reserves went no bid.


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Old 24 June 2021, 07:37 AM   #11
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Last week at on of the big house’s auction a Hulk and pointy Kermit that had what I thought were pretty high reserves went no bid.


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Old 24 June 2021, 07:38 AM   #12
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Old 24 June 2021, 07:47 AM   #13
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Last week at on of the big house’s auction a Hulk and pointy Kermit that had what I thought were pretty high reserves went no bid.


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What were the reserves?

I just saw a Hulk go into pending after listing @ 22k on HQMilton.

I got a bid of 18.5K on my naked 2004 Kermit.
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Old 24 June 2021, 07:55 AM   #14
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hulk seems to keep going up - the softening I am seeing is for last gen subs (non hulk), explorer II, milgauss (probably will start going up again later this year), Batgirl, blue and grey OP39, PM YM II it's not every model, but enough to be noticeable - seems like the less hyped models are taking a breather
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Old 24 June 2021, 08:13 AM   #15
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Leveling off till the next stimulus. Nobody get their hopes up. Oil is up 50% and trillions of dollars are being transferred to the global oilers.
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Old 24 June 2021, 08:15 AM   #16
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Old 24 June 2021, 08:49 AM   #17
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Lately I felt like I noticed a slight softening for the black dial ceramic Daytona (not sure about the white) and also Subs.

Also seems like Exp IIs are languishing, although I'm not convinced anyone actually bought any at the crazy inflated prices since the rumors that they would be discontinued in current form.
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Old 24 June 2021, 09:14 AM   #18
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good because there's a watch I want but the current mark up is a bit silly.
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Old 24 June 2021, 09:16 AM   #19
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Lately I felt like I noticed a slight softening for the black dial ceramic Daytona (not sure about the white) and also Subs.
I too think there has been a cool off on SS ceramic Daytonas, both dials. I feel like the white was rapidly approaching 40k and has since come back down to 35/36k, and the black dial is closer to 30K.

That said, I think we are fulling ourselves if we think there is any crash coming. Slight corrections maybe but the market of 2016 is not coming back any time soon.
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Old 24 June 2021, 09:18 AM   #20
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What were the reserves?

I just saw a Hulk go into pending after listing @ 22k on HQMilton.

I got a bid of 18.5K on my naked 2004 Kermit.

Don’t quote me but Hulk was 22k plus premium and Kermit was around 19k plus premium


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Old 24 June 2021, 09:22 AM   #21
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Lately I felt like I noticed a slight softening for the black dial ceramic Daytona (not sure about the white) and also Subs.

Also seems like Exp IIs are languishing, although I'm not convinced anyone actually bought any at the crazy inflated prices since the rumors that they would be discontinued in current form.
Explorer 2s are still pumped up to ridiculous levels, but not as ridiculous as they were a few weeks ago. When you consider that the new Polar looks virtually identical to the last one, this price level is difficult to fathom - although as you say, they may not be selling for these asking prices.

Hulks went through the same silly cycle when they were discontinued but have now fallen back considerably. I think the Explorer 2 has a lot of falling back still to do.
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Old 24 June 2021, 09:23 AM   #22
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Can't wait to visit this thread in a year!!!

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Old 24 June 2021, 09:25 AM   #23
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Yes, the posts read similar to those around March last year. Global pandemic! Prices crashing, Greys dumping stock etc.

That lasted about 3 weeks.


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Old 24 June 2021, 09:29 AM   #24
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Right on...this thread needs a pic of a hot watch which is about to go soft . It will drop in the next few months, but I don't care.

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Old 24 June 2021, 09:33 AM   #25
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Nothing grows to the sky. Still, a softening is not a crash or correction. Let's revisit in a year.
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Old 24 June 2021, 09:41 AM   #26
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This thread reads like you're discussing pork belly futures.
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Old 24 June 2021, 10:41 AM   #27
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Wouldn’t expect the price of a mass produced item to keep rising forever.
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Old 24 June 2021, 10:55 AM   #28
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In 2017 I said no way I’m paying $4-$5k over retail for a new Daytona (gray dealer)… and I bought a Bluesy at 10% discount (authorized dealer). The green sub was in the case for the taking.

Heheheeeeeeeee. How things have changed.
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Old 24 June 2021, 11:00 AM   #29
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Yes, the posts read similar to those around March last year. Global pandemic! Prices crashing, Greys dumping stock etc.

That lasted about 3 weeks.


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Don’t think anyone said a full-on crash was coming. In fact, someone said pretty clearly they expected a “softening” rather than a crash. Mass produced goods like steel watches tend to not just balloon in price indefinitely, so that’s a perfectly rational conclusion. The idea that people will begin redirecting some discretionary income towards things like vacations and away from Rolex is an equally rational proposition. And last year’s incorrect predictions reflected a misunderstanding of the pandemic more than a misunderstanding of watch prices — the people who were the most financially impacted by the pandemic were by and large not in the market for Rolex watches to begin with. If a 2008-like recession were to hit — and let’s pray that it doesn’t anytime soon — Rolex prices will indeed crash. That’s just a fact.
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Old 24 June 2021, 11:17 AM   #30
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[QUOTE=Giangos;11536869]Yes, the posts read similar to those around March last year. Global pandemic! Prices crashing, Greys dumping stock etc.

That lasted about 3 weeks.


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