126610LV Wait Time (NYC)

[Vince_76]

Hi guys,

I’ll be turning 30 in December, and am looking to celebrate the milestone with a 126610LV. I have a relationship with an AD who I bought my DJ41 from last year. I’m also looking to canvass a little more broadly in NYC.

My question is, how realistic you think it’ll be to have the watch by/at December or even January?

[Seddyspaghetti]

Depends on how strong your relationship is with that AD and what that AD’s approval process is.

But if we’re going off just your past purchase history of only a DJ41, then getting a starbux by Dec or Jan is possible but highly unlikely imo.

Hope i’m wrong!

[vh2k]

You live in Los Angeles and want to buy from a NYC AD? Not likely.

[Vince_76]

Originally Posted by vh2k

You live in Los Angeles and want to buy from a NYC AD? Not likely.

I live in NY now so I’d try all the AD’s here in addition to my relationship in LA

[vh2k]

Originally Posted by Vince_76

I live in NY now so I’d try all the AD’s here in addition to my relationship in LA

There are only three big ADs in NYC. Pick ONE location for each AD, make appointment, tell them your story, and good luck.

[Seddyspaghetti]

Originally Posted by vh2k

There are only three big ADs in NYC. Pick ONE location for each AD, make appointment, tell them your story, and good luck.

I’d say 4. Tourneau, Wempe, London Jewelers, and WOS.

[fskywalker]

Originally Posted by vh2k

There are only three big ADs in NYC. Pick ONE location for each AD, make appointment, tell them your story, and good luck.

+1


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[Kevin of Larchmont]

Ask the Magic Eight Ball, be sure and phrase it as a yes or no question.

[Solo118]

It is all about getting lucky, but I would keep working with the AD that got you the DJ41.

Sadly these days, you need to beg for a company to take thousands of your dollars... it is just something I would not be interested in chasing.

[ks58]

I think it’s unrealistic but your experience may vary.

[Fleetlord]

Inadequate purchase history to be considered for that reference.

If your AD was a chain, you unfortunately wouldn't even get the associate to attempt to advocate for you to be placed on the corp list.

[RealMadrid1988]

Originally Posted by Fleetlord

Inadequate purchase history to be considered for that reference.

If your AD was a chain, you unfortunately wouldn't even get the associate to attempt to advocate for you to be placed on the corp list.

Eh. I actually have a friend who got the LV last year as a second watch, with only a DJ as his prior history here in NYC. I agree that it’s a long shot, but I wouldn’t rule it out completely. The LV seems roughly on par with the BLNR and there are plenty of people who’ve gotten that as their 2nd or 3rd watch.

[liberalclown]

Heisenberg and Schrodinger had some research on this, they are called Heisenberg's hard to get watch uncertainty and Schrodinger's watch conundrum.

I think the best answer is, you register your interest with all ADs in NYC, and when I say all, all the branches, not one branch per AD chain as they tend to keep seperate lists, with your story and then wait.

[Master_Grogu]

Who knows! You won’t get it unless you reach out anyhowy

[brucethemanlee]

1st week of October 2020 in NYC. 5 weeks after initial release but I have some history with AD


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[sportsfan0704]

Sadly a 1-2 watch history isn’t gonna get you far in NYC. There’s always someone who has spent thousands of dollars more. Could you hit it off with an SA at a location where spending history doesn’t matter? Sure, but probably not for this model. FWIW, Tourneau told me that spending history doesn’t make too much of a difference, and that was in the context of me asking about a rather unhyped model.

[nyc10ken]

Originally Posted by sportsfan0704

Sadly a 1-2 watch history isn’t gonna get you far in NYC. There’s always someone who has spent thousands of dollars more. Could you hit it off with an SA at a location where spending history doesn’t matter? Sure, but probably not for this model. FWIW, Tourneau told me that spending history doesn’t make too much of a difference, and that was in the context of me asking about a rather unhyped model.

Curious because I was told the same by Tourneau, if spending history doesnt make too much a difference what the heck does? What model did you ask for?

I thought they were just saying that to get rid fo me

[sportsfan0704]

Originally Posted by nyc10ken

Curious because I was told the same by Tourneau, if spending history doesnt make too much a difference what the heck does? What model did you ask for?

I thought they were just saying that to get rid fo me

Looking for a 2 tone datejust after a prior submariner purchase at Tourneau. I think the reason that they discounted the purchase history is that they have so many people who want so many watches and have spent money that they can’t allow that to be the difference maker. As others have suggested, I think it’s a combination of factors, like future potential, whether you’re gonna resell, prior history, a compelling story, not bothering them all the time etc. Cant forget also that sometimes you might not be the top option for a watch, but if they can’t get a hold of the people above you on the list or those people forgot they were even on it or already bought something else, then you might get “lucky”

[nyc10ken]

Originally Posted by sportsfan0704

Looking for a 2 tone datejust after a prior submariner purchase at Tourneau. I think the reason that they discounted the purchase history is that they have so many people who want so many watches and have spent money that they can’t allow that to be the difference maker. As others have suggested, I think it’s a combination of factors, like future potential, whether you’re gonna resell, prior history, a compelling story, not bothering them all the time etc. Cant forget also that sometimes you might not be the top option for a watch, but if they can’t get a hold of the people above you on the list or those people forgot they were even on it or already bought something else, then you might get “lucky”

Makes sense. Lets also add: checking up once in a while but not too often, gifts, local vs non local, pretty much the ADs choice if they like you. Impossible to get any transparency with this so just wait and see.

Two tone DJ you should be able to order no? That should be the type of watch that builds "positive spend" like in a thread I started earlier.

[sportsfan0704]

Originally Posted by nyc10ken

Makes sense. Lets also add: checking up once in a while but not too often, gifts, local vs non local, pretty much the ADs choice if they like you. Impossible to get any transparency with this so just wait and see.

Two tone DJ you should be able to order no? That should be the type of watch that builds "positive spend" like in a thread I started earlier.

They have offered to order, but the vague "timelines" they give have made me reconsider waiting on that. One SA will say it could be a week, clearly trying to get me to put the deposit down. Another will be more honest and say its probably 8-12 weeks. I just don’t like that. Am I being picky? yes of course, but I also am not 100% set on which 2 tone dial I want, so I would rather wait til one comes in, possibly much faster than 8-12 weeks, and decide if that right for me. You would think with a purchase history of a sub that perhaps I could get my hands on an SS Datejust in white roman, but they said it didn't matter for that either, and thats not exactly the blue or wimbeldon dial everyone is looking for.

[Seddyspaghetti]

Originally Posted by nyc10ken

Curious because I was told the same by Tourneau, if spending history doesnt make too much a difference what the heck does? What model did you ask for?

I thought they were just saying that to get rid fo me

Buying non rolex helps with your case.

[sportsfan0704]

Originally Posted by Seddyspaghetti

Buying non rolex helps.

This. They’re gonna sell the Rolex whether you want it or not. There will almost always be a buyer for any men’s model, perhaps excluding some diamond pieces. What they have problems selling are the other watches. This is where you can benefit from the idea of bundling without having to buy a ton of jewelry. It also helps explain why some secondary/gray dealers here probably end up with a lot of random pieces that we can just buy in any store.

[vh2k]

Originally Posted by RealMadrid1988

Eh. I actually have a friend who got the LV last year as a second watch, with only a DJ as his prior history here in NYC. I agree that it’s a long shot, but I wouldn’t rule it out completely. The LV seems roughly on par with the BLNR and there are plenty of people who’ve gotten that as their 2nd or 3rd watch.

Originally Posted by Master_Grogu

Who knows! You won’t get it unless you reach out anyhowy

Originally Posted by brucethemanlee

1st week of October 2020 in NYC. 5 weeks after initial release but I have some history with AD.

Originally Posted by sportsfan0704

Sadly a 1-2 watch history isn’t gonna get you far in NYC. There’s always someone who has spent thousands of dollars more. Could you hit it off with an SA at a location where spending history doesn’t matter? Sure, but probably not for this model. FWIW, Tourneau told me that spending history doesn’t make too much of a difference, and that was in the context of me asking about a rather unhyped model.

Context matters. Purchase history, rapport, circumstances, future purchases/velocity (lifetime customer value), etc.

Someone asking for a piece for a 60th or 50th birthday can easily jump ahead of someone asking for his 30th.

[RealMadrid1988]

Originally Posted by vh2k

Context matters. Purchase history, rapport, circumstances, future purchases/velocity (lifetime customer value), etc.

Someone asking for a piece for a 60th or 50th birthday can easily jump ahead of someone asking for his 30th.

I agree. As a hard and fast rule, there are no hard and fast rules. Odds of OP getting the LV in NYC by December are, I think we can all agree, low. But not impossible. There’s a lot of randomness that goes into it, and persistence can pay off. Obviously odds increase by requesting at multiple ADs, etc.

[huncho]

highly unlikely but if you go today and tell them you're turning 30 and would like to celebrate then maybe you'll get lucky by then. i wouldn't even bother trying any ADs where you'd have to call. just go through the few in nyc or maybe drive out to jersey to a smaller AD with less vip clients

[vh2k]

Originally Posted by huncho

highly unlikely but if you go today and tell them you're turning 30 and would like to celebrate then maybe you'll get lucky by then. i wouldn't even bother trying any ADs where you'd have to call. just go through the few in nyc or maybe drive out to jersey to a smaller AD with less vip clients

Well, in many cases, with WFH over the past 16 months, "local" or hometown ADs in the suburbs are BUSIER (relatively speaking) than the ADs in metropolitan areas.

In other words, if NYC AD used to experience 1X demand in 2019, and now is experiencing 3X demand (3X increase)...

Suburban AD used to experience .1X demand in 2019 and is now seeing .5X demand (5X increase).

[Nairn1980]

Originally Posted by Vince_76

Hi guys,

I’ll be turning 30 in December, and am looking to celebrate the milestone with a 126610LV. I have a relationship with an AD who I bought my DJ41 from last year. I’m also looking to canvass a little more broadly in NYC.

My question is, how realistic you think it’ll be to have the watch by/at December or even January?

I’d say you will really really struggle

[nyc10ken]

i think theres no harm in putting down a deposit as its refundable, just need to decide what you want first. I think what they get and display is way to random to help you decide so suggest maybe go around 47th st and try some on. Though I think for history building purposes buying something they get randomly is better than making them order one because it helps them sell a shipment model.

Are you looking for 36 or 41? Last time i heard the DJs you cant order are the SS41s but these things change often.

[Vince_76]

Thanks guys. Will roll the dice and hit the ADs this weekend.

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by Vince_76

Thanks guys. Will roll the dice and hit the ADs this weekend.

Good luck, I truly hope you can land one in time for your 30th