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Old 28 July 2021, 12:35 AM   #1
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Hi folks, just out of curiosity….(talking about my GMT II which is my daily wear and around 9 years old)

I was going to get it serviced this year as much as to ensure it’s ‘waterproofness’ as much as anything plus it didn’t seem to have the power reserve as it used to….anyway, I believe the mainspring beat me to it on Saturday, it suddenly stopped running and after I gave it a few winds it ran backwards for a few seconds.

My question is, would the mainspring typically be replaced as part of the service anyway or will it be an extra cost on top because it’s broken?

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Old 28 July 2021, 01:25 AM   #2
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Hi folks, just out of curiosity….(talking about my GMT II which is my daily wear and around 9 years old)

I was going to get it serviced this year as much as to ensure it’s ‘waterproofness’ as much as anything plus it didn’t seem to have the power reserve as it used to….anyway, I believe the mainspring beat me to it on Saturday, it suddenly stopped running and after I gave it a few winds it ran backwards for a few seconds.

My question is, would the mainspring typically be replaced as part of the service anyway or will it be an extra cost on top because it’s broken?

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Mainsprings are always replaced as part of service, and even Rolex don't make there own mainsprings and quite a cheap component to replace at service, mainsprings are made by a firm called Schwab-Feller AG.
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Old 28 July 2021, 02:17 AM   #3
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Thank you for the prompt reply Padi, off to the AD tomorrow for a service


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Old 28 July 2021, 02:23 AM   #4
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The Parachrom hairspring, an alloy of niobium, zirconium and oxygen, is entirely manufactured in-house by Rolex.
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Old 28 July 2021, 02:30 AM   #5
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The Parachrom hairspring, an alloy of niobium, zirconium and oxygen, is entirely manufactured in-house by Rolex.
Might I suggest you stick to timegraphers as the poster asked about mainsprings, and not hairsprings, which is a totally different component.
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Old 28 July 2021, 02:30 AM   #6
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You are good to go on a standard service as the mainspring is a disposable part. They will still use the barrel on your older movement. Cost of general service will be the same unless they find something more significant besides the mainspring.

Point of interest on the new 32 series movements, the barrel and mainspring are a disposable part in a routine service.
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Old 28 July 2021, 02:40 AM   #7
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Thank you for the prompt reply Padi, off to the AD tomorrow for a service
Make sure that you know what is going to happen to your watch from the Dealer. Rolex RSC replaces mainsprings as a matter of course. Some independents will charge extra for all parts.
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Old 28 July 2021, 02:46 AM   #8
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Might I suggest you stick to timegraphers as the poster asked about mainsprings, and not hairsprings, which is a totally different component.
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Old 28 July 2021, 03:58 AM   #9
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Might I suggest you stick to timegraphers as the poster asked about mainsprings, and not hairsprings, which is a totally different component.
What a Harsh and Rude response !
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Old 28 July 2021, 04:27 AM   #10
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What a Harsh and Rude response !
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Old 28 July 2021, 05:16 AM   #11
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+2. Good to clearly read before jumping the gun..
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Old 28 July 2021, 05:35 AM   #13
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Mainsprings are always replaced as part of service, and even Rolex don't make there own mainsprings and quite a cheap component to replace at service, mainsprings are made by a firm called Schwab-Feller AG.
This is correct
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Old 28 July 2021, 05:41 AM   #14
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Well well well now, please don't exaggerate.

Your post about the hairspring is completely irrelevant and useless in this thread, Peter just called you out on it.

Also, your remarks of other people's intelligence / education are getting a bit old. Also makes me question your intelligence, actually.
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What a Harsh and Rude response !
Nothing harsh or rude with my reply just stating the facts,but your post and Mr Saxa post is a more rude response..
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In my days, when working for a Rolex AD, we replaced in the full service always the complete barrel with arbor and mainspring. No exceptions.
This makes sense for you want the watch to run for a long time without any issue till the next service.
And knowing you have people who service their watch every 5 years on one end and others only after 15 years, so if you start with a working, but mildly worn barrel with only the mainspring replaced you can be quite sure that after another 5 or 10 years the barrel wall is worn out leading to a very reduced amplitude and power reserve. So we always replaced the barrel complete. This applied on all models so not only the 32xx series.
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My question is, would the mainspring typically be replaced as part of the service anyway or will it be an extra cost on top because it’s broken?

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OP, please take note that I had simply misread your post and provided a factual feedback about the Parachrom hairspring, instead of the mainspring, which you had asked about.

That was not my intention, sorry for your thread.
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Old 28 July 2021, 08:20 AM   #18
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Hi folks, just out of curiosity….(talking about my GMT II which is my daily wear and around 9 years old)

I was going to get it serviced this year as much as to ensure it’s ‘waterproofness’ as much as anything plus it didn’t seem to have the power reserve as it used to….anyway, I believe the mainspring beat me to it on Saturday, it suddenly stopped running and after I gave it a few winds it ran backwards for a few seconds.

My question is, would the mainspring typically be replaced as part of the service anyway or will it be an extra cost on top because it’s broken?

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Yes, standard service covers the main spring.

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Well well well now, please don't exaggerate.

Your post about the hairspring is completely irrelevant and useless in this thread, Peter just called you out on it.

Also, your remarks of other people's intelligence / education are getting a bit old. Also makes me question your intelligence, actually.
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Thanks all for taking the time to reply and share your knowledge, it’s appreciated

@saxo3, no need to apologise, worse things happen at sea, as they say


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Well well well now, please don't exaggerate.

Your post about the hairspring is completely irrelevant and useless in this thread, Peter just called you out on it.

Also, your remarks of other people's intelligence / education are getting a bit old. Also makes me question your intelligence, actually.
Could not agree more Bas.
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Old 30 July 2021, 07:41 AM   #22
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Nothing harsh or rude with my reply just stating the facts,but your post and Mr Saxa post is a more rude response..
Peter,
There is no need for you to respond.
You may have been a tad abrasive and unsympathetic, but you certainly hit the mark and mirrored my thoughts exactly.
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In my days, when working for a Rolex AD, we replaced in the full service always the complete barrel with arbor and mainspring. No exceptions.
This makes sense for you want the watch to run for a long time without any issue till the next service.
And knowing you have people who service their watch every 5 years on one end and others only after 15 years, so if you start with a working, but mildly worn barrel with only the mainspring replaced you can be quite sure that after another 5 or 10 years the barrel wall is worn out leading to a very reduced amplitude and power reserve. So we always replaced the barrel complete. This applied on all models so not only the 32xx series.
Understandable and I'm sure best industry practice
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