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MannySDG · 9 September 2021, 02:33 AM

2019 Bluesy
2020 Rootbeer
2021 DJ 41/Blue stick dial/fluted/Jubilee

even trade for a RG DD40 Chocolate Roman dial. Is the value of my watches close enough for an even trade? DavidSW has an Unworn one for $47875

I have always loved the DD40, always wanted one, but I guess I just never had that much money in my pocket at once to just go out and buy one. So I went with watches I also liked and could afford and was lucky to purchase all of them new from my AD. My grail of course would be the same DD40 with the Olive dial, but that's out of reach for me and the chocolate dial has really grown on me.

I have been promised a Pepsi by my AD for some time next year, so that would replace my DJ41 as my daily watch if I were to do the deal with the DD40, but I am wondering that if I trade all my current watches in, will that have a negative effect on my purchase history with my AD that would reduce the chances of getting a Pepsi?

I would definitely miss my 3 current watches, but then again, I could always repurchase them in the future?

This is a crazy Hobby, one hell of a rabbit hole!

Thanks for any input!

Rentalcarman · 9 September 2021, 02:36 AM

It never hurts to ask them. I have bought several watches from Davidsw. He buys low and sells high. But if I were you, I would email him with what you have, send pictures of them and see what he offers. I do not think those 3 alone will get you to an even trade though. The prices he will offer will probably be about $3k-$4K less then he could resell them from. Good luck on your hunt to acquire your chosen watch!

vh2k · 9 September 2021, 02:42 AM

You might need to add some cash.

Soarer · 9 September 2021, 02:44 AM

I don’t think grey dealer will laugh at any proposal. They are all open to any opportunity that will come their way. So go ahead, make your day!

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travisb · 9 September 2021, 02:54 AM

Ask away. It’s not a laughable proposal but expect a counter with some cash coming from you as well.

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MannySDG · 9 September 2021, 02:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vh2k

You need to add $8,000-9,000 cash.

In that case, the trade is definitely not worth it in my opinion.

vh2k · 9 September 2021, 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MannySDG

In that case, the trade is definitely not worth it in my opinion.

I’ll amend my previous comments. It may not be that much.

Go for it and good luck!

Chewbacca · 9 September 2021, 03:01 AM

They’d want some $$$ back.

Or you could just... ;-)

prnceofpersia23 · 9 September 2021, 03:03 AM

You'll definitely have to add cash ($8-9K sounds right) to the deal to get the DD and agree that it's not worth it.

Can you source the DD at retail from your AD? That would avoid having to add cash on top.

MannySDG · 9 September 2021, 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chewbacca

They’d want some $$$ back.

Or you could just... ;-)

You're right....follow my own advice!

Danny83 · 9 September 2021, 03:06 AM

Probably better off selling them yourself

MannySDG · 9 September 2021, 03:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by prnceofpersia23

You'll definitely have to add cash ($8-9K sounds right) to the deal to get the DD and agree that it's not worth it.

Can you source the DD at retail from your AD? That would avoid having to add cash on top.

As of my conversation with my SA yesterday, they can't order any new watches until next year, not even YG DD40s. I think I am just going to be patient and see what happens, I have never gone grey before and only dealt with this same AD. I know.....patience over instant gratification....that deal would only be good if it was even trade or maybe 1-2k.

prnceofpersia23 · 9 September 2021, 03:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MannySDG

As of my conversation with my SA yesterday, they can't order any new watches until next year, not even YG DD40s. I think I am just going to be patient and see what happens, I have never gone grey before and only dealt with this same AD. I know.....patience over instant gratification....that deal would only be good if it was even trade or maybe 1-2k.

In that case, you're definitely better off sitting tight. You have three great pieces, enjoy them!

whiskyrolex · 9 September 2021, 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny83

Probably better off selling them yourself

This. The grey dealers will offer you 10-20% below fair market value on your trade ins.

IamJacky · 9 September 2021, 03:15 AM

2019 Bluesy
2020 Rootbeer
2021 DJ 41/Blue stick dial/fluted/Jubilee

For

RG DD40 Chocolate Roman dial

Personally I would never do this trade. Those 3 watches you have OP are really nice. I would just wait for the DD at an AD.

AEV · 9 September 2021, 03:19 AM

I don't think a grey dealer would laugh at this.
In my part of the world, assuming your watches are in very good condition, I'd reckon you would need to add around 5K euro for that DD40 BNIB.

I happen to have the same DD you are after. Currently it is with a RSC for a dial change to olive green. I also had the same config DJ41 and Rootbeer but I moved them on.
The DD is simply awesome and the chocolate dial is every bit as nice as the olive green.

If I were in your position, I would first ask my AD for the DD. If they cannot order it, then I would think of trade in or first sell then buy. You would get better prices.

Whether that would limit your chances for a Pepsi, it really depends on your relationship with your AD.

BNA/LION · 9 September 2021, 03:41 AM

To get the most of anything you are selling it's best to sell it yourself or just be okay leaving 20% on the table...

dxhan · 9 September 2021, 03:42 AM

Don't do it. I would wait and purchase from the AD that promised you the pepsi or sell each watch separately. You'll get a much better return that trade in

Quote:

Originally Posted by MannySDG

2019 Bluesy
2020 Rootbeer
2021 DJ 41/Blue stick dial/fluted/Jubilee

even trade for a RG DD40 Chocolate Roman dial. Is the value of my watches close enough for an even trade? DavidSW has an Unworn one for $47875

I have always loved the DD40, always wanted one, but I guess I just never had that much money in my pocket at once to just go out and buy one. So I went with watches I also liked and could afford and was lucky to purchase all of them new from my AD. My grail of course would be the same DD40 with the Olive dial, but that's out of reach for me and the chocolate dial has really grown on me.

I have been promised a Pepsi by my AD for some time next year, so that would replace my DJ41 as my daily watch if I were to do the deal with the DD40, but I am wondering that if I trade all my current watches in, will that have a negative effect on my purchase history with my AD that would reduce the chances of getting a Pepsi?

I would definitely miss my 3 current watches, but then again, I could always repurchase them in the future?

This is a crazy Hobby, one hell of a rabbit hole!

Thanks for any input!

karteo · 9 September 2021, 03:45 AM

Don't do it. These are beautiful pieces.

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jb335 · 9 September 2021, 03:46 AM

I don't think you're very close but it doesn't hurt to try. I think trade-in values with grey's tend to be lower than many here think - especially with DavidSW who has the market share to buy low and sell high.

Vivalas · 9 September 2021, 03:47 AM

You should work out what your 3 are going for on the grey market and if they total more than his DD pricing then he’ll probably consider it. The more over the more likely as he’ll already have a nice profit on the DD anyway. More to the point you need to work out if it’s a good deal for you.

OrangeSport · 9 September 2021, 04:22 AM

Got a little insight into how they price by having a chat with one recently..

He bought a watch with an RRP of £11K for £20K and sold it for £30K (bricks and mortar store with strong online presence).

garyk · 9 September 2021, 04:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrangeSport

Got a little insight into how they price by having a chat with one recently..

He bought a watch with an RRP of £11K for £20K and sold it for £30K (bricks and mortar store with strong online presence).

That's sounds about right.

turkeysub93 · 9 September 2021, 04:45 AM

Buy low, sell high...

This is a brick and mortar with overhead costs...you will surely not get the market value for your watches and will pay a premium for whatever you are buying. Basically operates as a car dealership but is less transparent with their charges. You will be leaving money on the table but the convenience factor may justify it...subjective to you!

Chewbacca · 9 September 2021, 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MannySDG

You're right....follow my own advice!

Personally, I think a solid 3 watch collection beats one heavy watch.

Be happy regardless of the direction.

GONZO2LR · 9 September 2021, 04:53 AM

how would the AD know you sold them? Are they your Rolexes or the AD's?

do you plan on telling them what your wanting to do? ( they are on this site???? )

jgottsman11 · 9 September 2021, 05:21 AM

I'd say you're at least $6000 away

McinRolex · 9 September 2021, 05:29 AM

I would wait and buy from an AD.

Good things take time :)

sp5702 · 9 September 2021, 05:37 AM

Buy the DD and then sell them on your own if you’re able to. Otherwise you’re probably going to lose $4k on the trade. Dealer is going to bake in some margin on the trade, so you’re losing that each time on three watches.

JRell · 9 September 2021, 06:24 AM

Don’t add fuel to the fire. Just say no to greys.

9 September 2021, 02:33 AM	#1
MannySDG "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: The Blue Marble Posts: 833	Would a grey dealer laugh at this proposal? 2019 Bluesy 2020 Rootbeer 2021 DJ 41/Blue stick dial/fluted/Jubilee even trade for a RG DD40 Chocolate Roman dial. Is the value of my watches close enough for an even trade? DavidSW has an Unworn one for $47875 I have always loved the DD40, always wanted one, but I guess I just never had that much money in my pocket at once to just go out and buy one. So I went with watches I also liked and could afford and was lucky to purchase all of them new from my AD. My grail of course would be the same DD40 with the Olive dial, but that's out of reach for me and the chocolate dial has really grown on me. I have been promised a Pepsi by my AD for some time next year, so that would replace my DJ41 as my daily watch if I were to do the deal with the DD40, but I am wondering that if I trade all my current watches in, will that have a negative effect on my purchase history with my AD that would reduce the chances of getting a Pepsi? I would definitely miss my 3 current watches, but then again, I could always repurchase them in the future? This is a crazy Hobby, one hell of a rabbit hole! Thanks for any input! __________________ Vintage YG DJ36/DJ41/Bluesy/Rootbeer

9 September 2021, 02:36 AM	#2
Rentalcarman 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Real Name: Alex Location: Maryland,usa Watch: None at the moment Posts: 1,174	It never hurts to ask them. I have bought several watches from Davidsw. He buys low and sells high. But if I were you, I would email him with what you have, send pictures of them and see what he offers. I do not think those 3 alone will get you to an even trade though. The prices he will offer will probably be about $3k-$4K less then he could resell them from. Good luck on your hunt to acquire your chosen watch! __________________ Nothing is as good as getting what we really want!! The value of something is determined by the price that we are willing to pay, not what someone says we should pay!!

9 September 2021, 02:44 AM	#4
Soarer "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Real Name: Albert Location: Toronto Watch: Submariner LV Posts: 1,083	I don’t think grey dealer will laugh at any proposal. They are all open to any opportunity that will come their way. So go ahead, make your day! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ What you gotta do, you gotta do!

9 September 2021, 03:01 AM	#8
Chewbacca Banned Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: CJ Location: Kashyyyk Watch: Kessel Run Chrono Posts: 21,112	They’d want some $$$ back. Or you could just... ;-) Attached Images

9 September 2021, 03:15 AM	#15
IamJacky "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Kuala Lumpur Posts: 1,018	2019 Bluesy 2020 Rootbeer 2021 DJ 41/Blue stick dial/fluted/Jubilee For RG DD40 Chocolate Roman dial Personally I would never do this trade. Those 3 watches you have OP are really nice. I would just wait for the DD at an AD. __________________ Two-Factor Authentication Enabled

9 September 2021, 02:42 AM	#3
vh2k "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: USA Posts: 3,018	You might need to add some cash.

9 September 2021, 02:54 AM	#5
travisb 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Travis Location: FL / NYC Watch: Yes.. Posts: 33,489	Ask away. It’s not a laughable proposal but expect a counter with some cash coming from you as well. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

9 September 2021, 03:03 AM	#9
prnceofpersia23 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: AZ, USA Watch: 116500LN Posts: 2,021	You'll definitely have to add cash ($8-9K sounds right) to the deal to get the DD and agree that it's not worth it. Can you source the DD at retail from your AD? That would avoid having to add cash on top.

9 September 2021, 03:06 AM	#11
Danny83 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Real Name: Danny Location: Bay Area CA Watch: Yellow Gold Posts: 20,312	Probably better off selling them yourself

9 September 2021, 03:19 AM	#16
AEV "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2020 Location: Europe Watch: AP & Rolex Posts: 1,525	I don't think a grey dealer would laugh at this. In my part of the world, assuming your watches are in very good condition, I'd reckon you would need to add around 5K euro for that DD40 BNIB. I happen to have the same DD you are after. Currently it is with a RSC for a dial change to olive green. I also had the same config DJ41 and Rootbeer but I moved them on. The DD is simply awesome and the chocolate dial is every bit as nice as the olive green. If I were in your position, I would first ask my AD for the DD. If they cannot order it, then I would think of trade in or first sell then buy. You would get better prices. Whether that would limit your chances for a Pepsi, it really depends on your relationship with your AD.

9 September 2021, 03:41 AM	#17
BNA/LION 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: Larry Location: San Diego, CA Watch: ROLEX Posts: 25,654	To get the most of anything you are selling it's best to sell it yourself or just be okay leaving 20% on the table... __________________ ✦ 28238 President DD 18K/YG ✦ 16610LN SS Sub ✦ 16613 18K/SS Serti ✦ 16550 Exp II Non-Rail Cream Dial ✦ Daytona C 116500 ✦ 126710 BLRO GMT-Master II ✦ NEXT-->? ⛳ Hole In One! 10/3/19 DMCC 5th hole, par 3, 168 yards w/ 4-Iron.

9 September 2021, 03:45 AM	#19
karteo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: athens greece Posts: 221	Don't do it. These are beautiful pieces. Sent from my M2007J17G using Tapatalk

9 September 2021, 03:46 AM	#20
jb335 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: The States Watch: Cosmograph Daytona Posts: 7,464	I don't think you're very close but it doesn't hurt to try. I think trade-in values with grey's tend to be lower than many here think - especially with DavidSW who has the market share to buy low and sell high.

9 September 2021, 03:47 AM	#21
Vivalas "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Real Name: Stephen Location: UK Watch: AP Posts: 2,646	You should work out what your 3 are going for on the grey market and if they total more than his DD pricing then he’ll probably consider it. The more over the more likely as he’ll already have a nice profit on the DD anyway. More to the point you need to work out if it’s a good deal for you.

9 September 2021, 04:22 AM	#22
OrangeSport "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Real Name: Jason Location: Essex, UK Watch: 14060M Posts: 2,943	Got a little insight into how they price by having a chat with one recently.. He bought a watch with an RRP of £11K for £20K and sold it for £30K (bricks and mortar store with strong online presence). __________________

9 September 2021, 04:45 AM	#24
turkeysub93 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2020 Location: N/A Posts: 618	Buy low, sell high... This is a brick and mortar with overhead costs...you will surely not get the market value for your watches and will pay a premium for whatever you are buying. Basically operates as a car dealership but is less transparent with their charges. You will be leaving money on the table but the convenience factor may justify it...subjective to you!

9 September 2021, 04:53 AM	#26
GONZO2LR "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Real Name: Luis Location: Texas Watch: SS Submariner Date Posts: 1,395	how would the AD know you sold them? Are they your Rolexes or the AD's? do you plan on telling them what your wanting to do? ( they are on this site???? )

9 September 2021, 05:21 AM	#27
jgottsman11 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: wHerE do U liv Watch: 5164R Posts: 1,450	I'd say you're at least $6000 away __________________ 5164R Aquanaut "Tiffany & Co" 18238 Champagne Day Date

9 September 2021, 05:29 AM	#28
McinRolex "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: United States Posts: 394	I would wait and buy from an AD. Good things take time :)

9 September 2021, 05:37 AM	#29
sp5702 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Omaha Posts: 248	Would a grey dealer laugh at this proposal? Buy the DD and then sell them on your own if you’re able to. Otherwise you’re probably going to lose $4k on the trade. Dealer is going to bake in some margin on the trade, so you’re losing that each time on three watches.

9 September 2021, 06:24 AM	#30
JRell "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Pittsburgh Watch: 126710BLNR Jubilee Posts: 7,084	Don’t add fuel to the fire. Just say no to greys. __________________ 126710 BLNR Jubilee

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