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[StevenMichael]

I stopped by an AD in Los Angeles today. Completely empty display cases of course. I was talking to the employee about a steel GMT MASTER II. He said, “honestly it will be years before I can get you anything.” Years? Is it time to just give up on Rolex? What is reality here? It’s been like this for years already.

[WatchNutcase]

Yes unfortunately reality at the moment, absolutely ridiculous. It's been the same story for the past couple of years. A purchase history can significantly reduce the wait time but it's not guaranteed and it pulls you into the rabbit hole of playing "the game".

Some AD's are more accommodating than others so it's wise to shop around.

[sj24k]

First mistake was going to an AD.


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[S52]

Originally Posted by StevenMichael

I stopped by an AD in Los Angeles today. Completely empty display cases of course. I was talking to the employee about a steel GMT MASTER II. He said, “honestly it will be years before I can get you anything.” Years? Is it time to just give up on Rolex? What is reality here? It’s been like this for years already.

Heard that a couple days ago at mine as well. Although I have zero interest in procuring one I casually asked what the wait is like for a BLRO. He told me would take in the neighborhood of 3-5 years. Although they come in fairly often- They have a list of VIP clients several hundred names deep that get them first.



I had a sensible chuckle, looked down at my 16710 Pepsi on my wrist smiled and walked outta there.

[WatchNutcase]

Originally Posted by S52

I had a sensible chuckle, looked down at my 16710 Pepsi on my wrist smiled and walked outta there.

Looking down at the 16710 would make me want to update even more

[scombs263]

Steven, LA sucks. Years is about right unless u spend a lot and buy BS jewelry. Too many people here looking for same things. Those in smaller states with family owned ADs have better luck. Unfortunately grey market is the only way at the moment for most in heavily populated areas.

[Dr. Robert]

The Rolex ADs in the nine counties in the San Francisco Bay Area have little stock, same old story.

[S52]

Originally Posted by WatchNutcase

Looking down at the 16710 would make me want to update even more

Haha. Yeah no doubt the ceramic BLRO is a cool watch. And would be nice to have one if it was like the old times... if anything just to take the pressure off my 16710 since its my daily wearer.

But theres something special about the old aluminum insert watch. Maybe its just because it was always the one I drooled over as a kid growing up seeing it in the old Rolex Chuck Yeager magazine advertisements.

[WatchNutcase]

Originally Posted by S52

Haha. Yeah no doubt the ceramic BLRO is a cool watch. And would be nice to have one if it was like the old times... if anything just to take the pressure off my 16710 since its my daily wearer.

But theres something special about the old aluminum insert watch. Maybe its just because it was always the one I drooled over as a kid growing up seeing it in the old Rolex Chuck Yeager magazine advertisements.

For sure an absolute icon, it wouldn't even drive me towards the new GMT but maybe something else from the current lineup.

[JacksonRain]

Originally Posted by WatchNutcase

Looking down at the 16710 would make me want to update even more

Absolutely perfect perfect response. An honest response indeed and I would feel the same way... Hold on.... Better yet, I would feel even more of that while putting on that hollow stamped tinny bracelet, that scratched 50 dollar aluminum bezel. Oh man, what can I say

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[JacksonRain]

Originally Posted by S52

Haha. Yeah no doubt the ceramic BLRO is a cool watch. And would be nice to have one if it was like the old times... if anything just to take the pressure off my 16710 since its my daily wearer.



But theres something special about the old aluminum insert watch. Maybe its just because it was always the one I drooled over as a kid growing up seeing it in the old Rolex Chuck Yeager magazine advertisements.

Look above

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[ThatOtherGuy7]

In before the “life is too short so go grey” comments.

OP- yes, it’s gotten crazy. I was lucky to have found a good AD but it took work to find them. I would visit a few more places and just talk watches. It helps if you have a life event or accomplishment that you’re celebrating.

[doboy007]

Originally Posted by StevenMichael

I stopped by an AD in Los Angeles today. Completely empty display cases of course. I was talking to the employee about a steel GMT MASTER II. He said, “honestly it will be years before I can get you anything.” Years? Is it time to just give up on Rolex? What is reality here? It’s been like this for years already.

Simple search on TRF would’ve told you this.

[Rori]

I had a sensible chuckle, looked down at my 16710 Pepsi on my wrist smiled and walked outta there.[/QUOTE]


If I had the 16710 I wouldn’t even bother to ask for a new gmt. :-)


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[iLLGT2]

Originally Posted by JacksonRain

Absolutely perfect perfect response. An honest response indeed and I would feel the same way... Hold on.... Better yet, I would feel even more of that while putting on that hollow stamped tinny bracelet, that scratched 50 dollar aluminum bezel. Oh man, what can I say

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Guess im in the minority.... I think the colors of my ceramic pepsi are garbage and my 16750 oozes character the newer lacks :dunno:

To the original poster, nothing new unfortunately.... if you love a particular Rolex GMT for the watch only, just go grey If youre thinking about moving on from Rolex cause the dealer/supply issues maybe you dont want the watch badly enough?

[3HandsNoDate]

Originally Posted by JacksonRain

Absolutely perfect perfect response. An honest response indeed and I would feel the same way... Hold on.... Better yet, I would feel even more of that while putting on that hollow stamped tinny bracelet, that scratched 50 dollar aluminum bezel. Oh man, what can I say

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Both 5 and 6 digit have their strengths.

[WatchNutcase]

Originally Posted by iLLGT2

If youre thinking about moving on from Rolex cause the dealer/supply issues maybe you dont want the watch badly enough?

I think they're totally not worth the grey market prices, at that point just move up to Patek at retail.

[Ensign]

ADs sell to private customers only.

[dawalsh]

Originally Posted by iLLGT2

Guess im in the minority.... I think the colors of my ceramic pepsi are garbage and my 16750 oozes character the newer lacks :dunno:

To the original poster, nothing new unfortunately.... if you love a particular Rolex GMT for the watch only, just go grey If youre thinking about moving on from Rolex cause the dealer/supply issues maybe you dont want the watch badly enough?

Wow! that 16750 wins for me too. Not even a close race.

[BLNR Nairobi]

Originally Posted by WatchNutcase

I think they're totally not worth the grey market prices, at that point just move up to Patek at retail.

Unless you want a SS Nautilus/Aquanaut, in which case one better be sitting down due to the wait list/‘market’ price for certain SS Pateks. Recent history on 5711s make SS Daytonas sensible

[WatchNutcase]

Originally Posted by BLNR Nairobi

Unless you want a SS Nautilus/Aquanaut, in which case one better be sitting down due to the wait list/‘market’ price for certain SS Pateks. Recent history on 5711s make SS Daytonas sensible

Why only SS Nautilus/Aquanaut? Plenty of available Patek models out there.

Edit: sorry misunderstood you, yes very true.

[OrangeSport]

Originally Posted by S52

they come in fairly often- They have a list of VIP clients several hundred names deep that get them first.

Interesting that they are getting a regular supply

Originally Posted by S52

had a sensible chuckle, looked down at my 16710 Pepsi on my wrist smiled and walked outta there.

Can’t say I blame you. I prefer 5 digits too...

[JacksonRain]

Originally Posted by iLLGT2

Guess im in the minority.... I think the colors of my ceramic pepsi are garbage and my 16750 oozes character the newer lacks :dunno:



To the original poster, nothing new unfortunately.... if you love a particular Rolex GMT for the watch only, just go grey If youre thinking about moving on from Rolex cause the dealer/supply issues maybe you dont want the watch badly enough?

Dont get me wrong, your 5 digit is cool and I like it, isb great in its own right... But it's just laughable to compare to the new version... It's like your five digit is a FLIMSY TOY!!

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[OrangeSport]

Originally Posted by JacksonRain

Dont get me wrong, your 5 digit is cool and I like it, isb great in its own right... But it's just laughable to compare to the new version... It's like your five digit is a FLIMSY TOY!!

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No way

Have owned 5 and 6 digit refs. Sold the 6 digits and kept the 5..

The 6 digit clasps do feel more solid, but I’ve never seen a 5 digit fail. Also much prefer aluminium inserts to ceramics...

[RolexSimon]

Originally Posted by WatchNutcase

Why only SS Nautilus/Aquanaut? Plenty of available Patek models out there.

Edit: sorry misunderstood you, yes very true.

Aquanaut Grey price is now double RRP and 2-3 year wait if you have a purchase history. Many here have stories of the need to buy a Calatrava first to get on the W/L for an Aquanaut, and many members here have reported the need to purchase several Pateks to get on the W/L for a Nautilus right now.
I think 3 years for a SS BLRO with no purchase history is not bad really.

[brucethemanlee]

Originally Posted by RolexSimon

Aquanaut Grey price is now double RRP

almost triple depending on seller

[RealMadrid1988]

Originally Posted by scombs263

Steven, LA sucks. Years is about right unless u spend a lot and buy BS jewelry. Too many people here looking for same things. Those in smaller states with family owned ADs have better luck. Unfortunately grey market is the only way at the moment for most in heavily populated areas.

This is true, but those people should enjoy it while they can. These types of dealers are quickly being culled from the Rolex AD network.

[xrole]

Originally Posted by StevenMichael

I stopped by an AD in Los Angeles today. Completely empty display cases of course. I was talking to the employee about a steel GMT MASTER II. He said, “honestly it will be years before I can get you anything.” Years? Is it time to just give up on Rolex? What is reality here? It’s been like this for years already.

Try going for a less popular model and not the most popular models in the world. If Rolex only produce a limited amount of 1 million watches per year, and each model is a subset of that population, then of course taking into account the crazy demand from multiple millions of people who can afford them, it could take a long time to get one of the most popular models.

[Nairn1980]

Originally Posted by StevenMichael

I stopped by an AD in Los Angeles today. Completely empty display cases of course. I was talking to the employee about a steel GMT MASTER II. He said, “honestly it will be years before I can get you anything.” Years? Is it time to just give up on Rolex? What is reality here? It’s been like this for years already.

They essentially don’t want new customers for these pieces.
Their waiting times are enough with their VIPs/preferred customers

[Fleetlord]

Originally Posted by Nairn1980

They essentially don’t want new customers for these pieces.
Their waiting times are enough with their VIPs/preferred customers

This is exactly the case.

The AD simply doesn't want to be bothered with the OP.

They have many clients that have a relationship with and need to supply them with the watches. They simply don't have the bandwidth to handle any more inquiries, especially from new customers.

in this case they just want individuals, in the scenario that the OP posted about, to just go away, hence the "years" response.