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scooba · 12 October 2021, 03:16 PM

I just read on some Facebook Rolex group the exhibition pieces turning up in ADs are fully working pieces unlike the Rolex New releases that do the rounds after Basel or Watches and Wonders ? Is this true ?

msa.93 · 12 October 2021, 03:19 PM

True, I asked my AD and he confirmed that they are fully working pieces.

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rolexperfect · 12 October 2021, 03:41 PM

Fully working pieces that sometimes after a month or two, are not there again. So they sell them anyway.

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Nairn1980 · 12 October 2021, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by scooba

I just read on some Facebook Rolex group the exhibition pieces turning up in ADs are fully working pieces unlike the Rolex New releases that do the rounds after Basel or Watches and Wonders ? Is this true ?

Yup, owned by Rolex in most cases

RolexSimon · 12 October 2021, 04:23 PM

All I've seen have had the hands at 10-2 so these individual watches are not working pieces. There may some "sets" that are working but there have been no photos posted here with hands in other positions to my knowledge. Happy for others to post and correct me.

JC316 · 12 October 2021, 04:39 PM

My experience from two different ADs that actually had "exhibition pieces."

AD 1: Exhibition pieces were running and could be tried on. (1 Kermit, 1 BLNR (Jubilee), and 1 DJ with diamonds)

AD 2: Exhibition pieces were not running and were for viewing pleasure only. I was told that they were legit watches. (1 BLNR GMT (Jubilee), 1 Pepsi GMT (Jubilee), and Submariner date.

Both ADs said that they did not have intentions on selling the pieces at the moment which leads me to believe that under the "right" circumstances, they could potentially sell.

norcalgt3 · 12 October 2021, 04:40 PM

Most do not have movements inside

teck21 · 12 October 2021, 04:42 PM

For the purpose of trying it on ones wrist, I’m curious as to what difference it makes whether the hands move or not?

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Moondoggy · 12 October 2021, 07:37 PM

This is absurd oh yeah I try on a piece that doesn’t tick or weigh the amount. I told you eventually it will be virtual pieces.

defmix · 12 October 2021, 07:50 PM

All the ones in AD's in Central London that I have seen are working pieces - unless they have worked out how to get a second hand moving without a movement : )

GreatCircle · 12 October 2021, 08:23 PM

It’s not that complicated. The only non working pieces Rolex produces are the ones from new models that will be forwarded between all the AD’s for release events etc.
All the rest with signs next to them are just real watches, the exhibition only signs are just a gesture from Rolex helping AD’s selecting the right customer for the sale. Either Vip, whale, friend of the owner, celebrity , bundle or hopefully just a sincere Rolex loving customer in case of the fair AD’s that chose not to play games or maximize profit.
With these official looking signs it’s so much easier to just blow off average Joe or walk-ins that have the word “flipper” actually written on their forehead….
Do we really think Rolex that already is struggling big time with production capacity is gonna waste even more production capacity by providing all the AD’s with dummy watches?! That doesn’t make any sense at all !

phisch · 12 October 2021, 09:04 PM

The ones I tried on at the Chicago boutique last month were set at 10:10 and the crowns could not be unscrewed on the 124270 and 116400GV when attempted. Definitely not ticking. He said they just got them a few weeks before, end of August.

knighty88 · 12 October 2021, 09:55 PM

In the UK they're certainly working models... I've tried on a couple, so can confirm first hand :)

Benzsiam · 12 October 2021, 11:16 PM

At my Rolex boutique, the exhibition pieces are no movement, customers can try them on.

There are some real timepieces that are for sell but mostly are smaller size (28 mm & 31mm) for women.

Both of them are in separated showcases.

Tanalasta · 13 October 2021, 12:40 AM

Most I’ve seen are Working models that are yet to be formally allocated. The sales associate cannot sell them on the system.

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afmars · 13 October 2021, 12:42 AM

All the exhibition pieces at my local AD have no movement and are set at 10:10

sammy11 · 13 October 2021, 01:52 AM

I was in my local UK AD on the weekend picking up my new Kermit and they had a few Exhibition pieces in... the Bluesy I asked to get hands-on with wasn't fully functioning... just assumed the rest were the same.

Either way, makes no difference. Nice to get hands on with some pieces to see if you actually want to join the list for one.... but I know the AD Sales Reps are a little frustrated by it as they just get more enquiries from '1st time buyers' whom they know they can't service for most things Rolex.

Kelvin Knight · 13 October 2021, 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by RolexSimon

All I've seen have had the hands at 10-2 so these individual watches are not working pieces. There may some "sets" that are working but there have been no photos posted here with hands in other positions to my knowledge. Happy for others to post and correct me.

They’re power reserves are depleted and then set to 10/2. They are all functioning, bonafide watches strong-armed out the safe by the Mothership.

I’ve run into them at 3 different AD’s in the states. Stickered and ticking once you wind them.

McinRolex · 13 October 2021, 04:17 AM

I asked my AD about this and he said all exhibition watches DO have movement in them but movements are stopped.

All the stickers are on the exhibition pieces and the way that SA present the watches for you to try on gave me an impression that these will be sold someday once AD build up some of the inventories in their safe.

ThatOtherGuy7 · 13 October 2021, 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by McinRolex

I asked my AD about this and he said all exhibition watches DO have movement in them but movements are stopped.

All the stickers are on the exhibition pieces and the way that SA present the watches for you to try on gave me an impression that these will be sold someday once AD build up some of the inventories in their safe.

I suspected this as well. It’s hard to get the weight accurately unless everything is the same. They must have put something to block the movements from ticking. Who knows…

RolexSimon · 13 October 2021, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by McinRolex

I asked my AD about this and he said all exhibition watches DO have movement in them but movements are stopped.

All the stickers are on the exhibition pieces and the way that SA present the watches for you to try on gave me an impression that these will be sold someday once AD build up some of the inventories in their safe.

And presumably they can "restart" them for sale fairly easily?

vh2k · 13 October 2021, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by RolexSimon

And presumably they can "restart" them for sale fairly easily?

Rolex-issued jumper cables.

Explorer2polar · 13 October 2021, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by scooba

I just read on some Facebook Rolex group the exhibition pieces turning up in ADs are fully working pieces unlike the Rolex New releases that do the rounds after Basel or Watches and Wonders ? Is this true ?

Yep, they are fully working. I tried on 3 today at an AD down South and all were set to the correct time and date.

New Sub date

RG TT GMT

41mm Datejust.

Nice to try them on for size and weight, this was not my nearest local AD which flatly refused to let me try them on or take them out the case. They are complete Bell e*ds thou.

Wcdhtwn · 13 October 2021, 07:54 AM

My AD has them but doesn't put them in the cases, they aren't required to. They are only required to have a certain inventory level. They did display them for one day and had multiple people get very unhappy they couldn't buy them, literally throwing their wallets at the SA's. Classy.

Also, and this is a good point, if people keep trying them on over and over whoever eventually buys them is going to be effectively buying a used watch, and the stickers will be shot. If someone asks for a model they have in back they'll bring it out for them to see. I asked for a couple and they didn't have them.

I was told the Boutique has over 7 figures in inventory they are not allowed to sell. That is not a typo. Pure insanity.

Jmaster · 13 October 2021, 08:19 AM

My AD also said that they have movements that are stopped. The exhibition watches we tried do not have any stickers on them.

However, he said that the owner has to buy these watches, not given by Rolex for free. So I suspect they might eventually be sold, maybe as a floor model like cars.

RolexSimon · 13 October 2021, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Jmaster

My AD also said that they have movements that are stopped. The exhibition watches we tried do not have any stickers on them.

However, he said that the owner has to buy these watches, not given by Rolex for free. So I suspect they might eventually be sold, maybe as a floor model like cars.

Does that mean they are officially "used" rolexes and can be sold at Grey prices :-) ?

Dabbadon8 · 13 October 2021, 10:48 AM

From what I understand the 10:10 ones have movements that are stopped somehow (either blocked or have some part removed). They aren’t for sale and owners need to buy them from Rolex. Same weight and material.

AF_Rob · 13 October 2021, 12:05 PM

I had my hands on a couple yesterday and the AD told me they were non-functional. They were set on 10-2.

It was nice to put my hands on the new models and see how the look on wrist.

S1mplee · 13 October 2021, 12:53 PM

Depends on the AD in my experience. I saw some stores with the time at 10:10:31 meaning they are display dummy models. I have seen some that actually tick as well! YMMV

Crazycollector · 15 October 2021, 10:00 AM

Went into Watches of Switzerland London today and they had Blue TT sub, TT Gmt2, YM 40 blue dial, subC ND and a skydweller blue. They said Exhibition pieces are fully working pieces, for customers to try for feel and size. They are not for sale and stock will be used to rotate between branches to offer variety to customers. So tried on the sky dweller that started ticking away soon after handling .... so they are not dummy watches -
offered to buy there and then but told again unable to sell.

12 October 2021, 03:16 PM	#1
scooba 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Europe Watch: Anything Posts: 2,586	Exhibition Pieces I just read on some Facebook Rolex group the exhibition pieces turning up in ADs are fully working pieces unlike the Rolex New releases that do the rounds after Basel or Watches and Wonders ? Is this true ?

12 October 2021, 03:41 PM	#3
rolexperfect "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: around the world Watch: 116506 Posts: 1,370	Fully working pieces that sometimes after a month or two, are not there again. So they sell them anyway. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ “buy what you like, and be done with it“

12 October 2021, 11:16 PM	#14
Benzsiam 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: USA Watch: Rolex/AP/PP/ALS Posts: 6,002	At my Rolex boutique, the exhibition pieces are no movement, customers can try them on. There are some real timepieces that are for sell but mostly are smaller size (28 mm & 31mm) for women. Both of them are in separated showcases. __________________ Rolex: 116621, 126333, 126711CHNR, 114060, 116500LN White, 126660 JC, 126710BLNR, 126710BLRO, 116610LV, 126610LN, 126610LV, 116508 YG Green Dial, 124300 Turquoise, 126719BLRO Meteorite dial, 228235 Olive dial ,126755SARU, 116505 RG Black dial, 326934 Blue Sky D. AP: 15451ST Blue, 15500OR w/Bracelet, 14790SA, 14790BA, 26022BC(Salmon) PP: 5524R, 5712G, ALS: Time Zone 136.032, Cartier: WGSA0030, WSSA0061, YG Oct. 2965, Carree 2961, YG Carree, Tank W5000156 Breguet: 7137BA, MontBlanc: 109996"

13 October 2021, 12:40 AM	#15
Tanalasta "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: . Posts: 602	Exhibition Pieces Most I’ve seen are Working models that are yet to be formally allocated. The sales associate cannot sell them on the system. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

13 October 2021, 08:19 AM	#25
Jmaster "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2021 Real Name: Ed Location: Bay Area Posts: 377	My AD also said that they have movements that are stopped. The exhibition watches we tried do not have any stickers on them. However, he said that the owner has to buy these watches, not given by Rolex for free. So I suspect they might eventually be sold, maybe as a floor model like cars. __________________ Vacheron Constantin \| Patek Philippe \| Rolex \| Tudor \| Girard-Perregaux \| Ming \| Baume & Mercier \| Dietrich

12 October 2021, 03:19 PM	#2
msa.93 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: Middle East Watch: 126711CHNR Posts: 51	True, I asked my AD and he confirmed that they are fully working pieces. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

12 October 2021, 04:23 PM	#5
RolexSimon "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Australia Posts: 1,375	All I've seen have had the hands at 10-2 so these individual watches are not working pieces. There may some "sets" that are working but there have been no photos posted here with hands in other positions to my knowledge. Happy for others to post and correct me.

12 October 2021, 04:39 PM	#6
JC316 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Real Name: JC Location: Korea Posts: 456	My experience from two different ADs that actually had "exhibition pieces." AD 1: Exhibition pieces were running and could be tried on. (1 Kermit, 1 BLNR (Jubilee), and 1 DJ with diamonds) AD 2: Exhibition pieces were not running and were for viewing pleasure only. I was told that they were legit watches. (1 BLNR GMT (Jubilee), 1 Pepsi GMT (Jubilee), and Submariner date. Both ADs said that they did not have intentions on selling the pieces at the moment which leads me to believe that under the "right" circumstances, they could potentially sell.

12 October 2021, 04:40 PM	#7
norcalgt3 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Orange Posts: 287	Most do not have movements inside

12 October 2021, 04:42 PM	#8
teck21 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Real Name: Teck Location: South East Asia Watch: Tudor Black Bay 58 Posts: 1,846	For the purpose of trying it on ones wrist, I’m curious as to what difference it makes whether the hands move or not? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

12 October 2021, 07:37 PM	#9
Moondoggy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Real Name: Knackers Location: NI/Aust/USA Watch: and wait Posts: 3,299	This is absurd oh yeah I try on a piece that doesn’t tick or weigh the amount. I told you eventually it will be virtual pieces.

12 October 2021, 07:50 PM	#10
defmix "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 74	All the ones in AD's in Central London that I have seen are working pieces - unless they have worked out how to get a second hand moving without a movement : )

12 October 2021, 08:23 PM	#11
GreatCircle "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: European Union Posts: 588	It’s not that complicated. The only non working pieces Rolex produces are the ones from new models that will be forwarded between all the AD’s for release events etc. All the rest with signs next to them are just real watches, the exhibition only signs are just a gesture from Rolex helping AD’s selecting the right customer for the sale. Either Vip, whale, friend of the owner, celebrity , bundle or hopefully just a sincere Rolex loving customer in case of the fair AD’s that chose not to play games or maximize profit. With these official looking signs it’s so much easier to just blow off average Joe or walk-ins that have the word “flipper” actually written on their forehead…. Do we really think Rolex that already is struggling big time with production capacity is gonna waste even more production capacity by providing all the AD’s with dummy watches?! That doesn’t make any sense at all !

12 October 2021, 09:04 PM	#12
phisch "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: IN Posts: 29	The ones I tried on at the Chicago boutique last month were set at 10:10 and the crowns could not be unscrewed on the 124270 and 116400GV when attempted. Definitely not ticking. He said they just got them a few weeks before, end of August.

12 October 2021, 09:55 PM	#13
knighty88 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: London Watch: Explorer 214270 Posts: 483	In the UK they're certainly working models... I've tried on a couple, so can confirm first hand :)

13 October 2021, 12:42 AM	#16
afmars "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Real Name: Andrew Location: USA Watch: BLRO Posts: 738	All the exhibition pieces at my local AD have no movement and are set at 10:10

13 October 2021, 01:52 AM	#17
sammy11 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Sam Thomas Location: United Kingdom Watch: GMT Meteorite Posts: 108	I was in my local UK AD on the weekend picking up my new Kermit and they had a few Exhibition pieces in... the Bluesy I asked to get hands-on with wasn't fully functioning... just assumed the rest were the same. Either way, makes no difference. Nice to get hands on with some pieces to see if you actually want to join the list for one.... but I know the AD Sales Reps are a little frustrated by it as they just get more enquiries from '1st time buyers' whom they know they can't service for most things Rolex.

13 October 2021, 04:17 AM	#19
McinRolex "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: United States Posts: 394	I asked my AD about this and he said all exhibition watches DO have movement in them but movements are stopped. All the stickers are on the exhibition pieces and the way that SA present the watches for you to try on gave me an impression that these will be sold someday once AD build up some of the inventories in their safe.

13 October 2021, 07:54 AM	#24
Wcdhtwn "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Houston Watch: SkyD, SD43, GMT2 Posts: 5,061	My AD has them but doesn't put them in the cases, they aren't required to. They are only required to have a certain inventory level. They did display them for one day and had multiple people get very unhappy they couldn't buy them, literally throwing their wallets at the SA's. Classy. Also, and this is a good point, if people keep trying them on over and over whoever eventually buys them is going to be effectively buying a used watch, and the stickers will be shot. If someone asks for a model they have in back they'll bring it out for them to see. I asked for a couple and they didn't have them. I was told the Boutique has over 7 figures in inventory they are not allowed to sell. That is not a typo. Pure insanity.

13 October 2021, 10:48 AM	#27
Dabbadon8 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Miami USA Posts: 343	From what I understand the 10:10 ones have movements that are stopped somehow (either blocked or have some part removed). They aren’t for sale and owners need to buy them from Rolex. Same weight and material. __________________ 2018 IWC SS Portofino Ref. IWC356501 1990s IWC Platinum Romain Ref. 3209 2018 Rolex Datejust Ref. 126200 2020 Submariner Date Ref. 126610LN 2021 GMT Master-II Ref. 126710BLRO-0001

13 October 2021, 12:05 PM	#28
AF_Rob "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: Rob Location: Virginia Watch: Sub/Polar/OP/BB Posts: 4,673	I had my hands on a couple yesterday and the AD told me they were non-functional. They were set on 10-2. It was nice to put my hands on the new models and see how the look on wrist.

13 October 2021, 12:53 PM	#29
S1mplee "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Usa Posts: 296	Depends on the AD in my experience. I saw some stores with the time at 10:10:31 meaning they are display dummy models. I have seen some that actually tick as well! YMMV

15 October 2021, 10:00 AM	#30
Crazycollector "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: London Posts: 40	Went into Watches of Switzerland London today and they had Blue TT sub, TT Gmt2, YM 40 blue dial, subC ND and a skydweller blue. They said Exhibition pieces are fully working pieces, for customers to try for feel and size. They are not for sale and stock will be used to rotate between branches to offer variety to customers. So tried on the sky dweller that started ticking away soon after handling .... so they are not dummy watches - offered to buy there and then but told again unable to sell.

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