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espngo · 3 December 2021, 10:48 PM

Advice needed

There is a grey in town with a slate, two tone daytona 116523 that I'm trying to make a trade with. I am offering up my black explorer ii AND grape OP39. My original offer was a straight trade, but grey is insisting that I am short. What do you guys think of the trade straight up? And what do you think of the trade if I have to put in some more $$, and how much should I put up?

dpt.calvin · 3 December 2021, 10:51 PM

Remember that your watches are not worth market value to this seller. He has to make a profit by selling these watches if he accepts them as a partial payment for the Daytona.

Harry-57 · 3 December 2021, 11:05 PM

No and no. Not on value so much as what you are getting compared to the watches you will lose.

OrangeSport · 3 December 2021, 11:09 PM

No way..

Nort even if cash was coming the other way..

Tanalasta · 3 December 2021, 11:25 PM

No. You're trading two perfectly good watches with provenance for a TT Daytona that isn't even that pretty.

mg18 · 3 December 2021, 11:42 PM

no shot on that trade.

brandrea · 3 December 2021, 11:46 PM

Two for one trades almost never work in the sellers advantage from what I’ve seen.

Cash is king and if you can swing it, I’d buy the Daytona and sell the ones you need privately

DoctorA · 3 December 2021, 11:56 PM

So you want to trade two SS watches, a GMT and a discontinued dial OP for a TT????
To each their own but I wouldn’t do that trade even if at even trade!!

beshannon · 3 December 2021, 11:57 PM

No, I would not do that

blue17 · 3 December 2021, 11:59 PM

I don't like the trade, even without cash from you.

rmlovett1 · 4 December 2021, 12:02 AM

Value wise I’d say it’s close to a straight trade…..although I say this with no knowledge of history, condition of watches, polished or not, are they all full sets, etc….(that’d be helpful)
But I could definitely see where the seller would ask for $$ on top, solely due to Daytona hype.
I personally would not trade those two for that particular TT Daytona.

jimcameron · 4 December 2021, 01:22 AM

If you want a 2tone Daytona, I'd go for it. The "Grape" may be harder to move, and the black Explorer is not uncommon.

Jack T · 4 December 2021, 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brandrea

Two for one trades almost never work in the sellers advantage from what I’ve seen.

Cash is king and if you can swing it, I’d buy the Daytona and sell the ones you need privately

Seems the consensus is against the offer you have; if you really, really want that Daytona, this may be the way to go, a bit more work on your part but a better deal for you.

Willyjo · 4 December 2021, 02:21 AM

Just no. You are getting fleeced.

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Fleetlord · 4 December 2021, 04:05 AM

Sorry, but not enough information to evaluate

Are all the watches full set? Crisp and complete?

The dealer is insisting you are "short" because you are.

Did the dealer mention how much cash was needed on you part to complete the trade?

espngo · 4 December 2021, 04:08 AM

$1k on my end to complete the sale. I declined. Thanks for the advice guys. For once I actually listened. Usually I just say screw it and do my own thing. Glad though, was kind of disappointed with the Daytona. It feels really small and kind of underwhelming.

indianmachine · 4 December 2021, 04:12 AM

think you made the right call OP... your existing pieces are much more versatile as a pair than that 1 TT daytona

CoveWatch · 4 December 2021, 04:39 AM

I rather keep the two u have

tymonster · 4 December 2021, 05:08 AM

Would not do that trade even if you paid me to.

Watch This · 4 December 2021, 05:11 AM

no

dnuggett · 4 December 2021, 09:51 AM

No, that Daytona is one of the uglier Daytona's I have seen.

sunnygps · 4 December 2021, 09:58 AM

Another NO to this trade.

Otto · 4 December 2021, 10:20 AM

I have no opinion on whether it’s a good trade, but the Daytona you’re considering is my favorite “two-tone” Daytona. It is an absolutely beautiful watch in person, but I gave it up reluctantly to obtain another watch long ago. If I were to ever consider another “two-tone” Daytona, it would be the same model. You should see it in the sun in Hawaii! These are not the best photos, but in my opinion, it’s a beautiful watch.

PepsiBezel · 4 December 2021, 10:29 AM

I think the TT Slate Daytona is cool and unique… having a unique Daytona is never a bad thing.

I support “converting” your Explorer II and Grape OP in the Daytona, but as others mentioned, I’d try to sell privately or at least shop around to a few other Gray/resellers/trusted sellers. You may be better off converting those to $ and buying the Daytona.

Good luck!

subdeeptona · 4 December 2021, 10:29 AM

go to an rolex Authorized dealer and trade these watches with them and build some history

3 December 2021, 10:48 PM	#1
espngo "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Virginia Posts: 81	Would you do this trade? Advice needed There is a grey in town with a slate, two tone daytona 116523 that I'm trying to make a trade with. I am offering up my black explorer ii AND grape OP39. My original offer was a straight trade, but grey is insisting that I am short. What do you guys think of the trade straight up? And what do you think of the trade if I have to put in some more $$, and how much should I put up?

3 December 2021, 10:51 PM	#2
dpt.calvin "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: TRF Posts: 2,270	Remember that your watches are not worth market value to this seller. He has to make a profit by selling these watches if he accepts them as a partial payment for the Daytona. __________________ 16570 \| 16710 \| 116710 \| 116500 76214 \| 79090 \| 79030 \| 79830

3 December 2021, 11:09 PM	#4
OrangeSport "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Real Name: Jason Location: Essex, UK Watch: 14060M Posts: 2,943	No way.. Nort even if cash was coming the other way.. __________________

3 December 2021, 11:56 PM	#8
DoctorA "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: USA Posts: 6,545	So you want to trade two SS watches, a GMT and a discontinued dial OP for a TT???? To each their own but I wouldn’t do that trade even if at even trade!! __________________ Wear the watch you like, not the one they tell you to wear!

3 December 2021, 11:57 PM	#9
beshannon "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Brian Location: Northern Virginia Watch: One of Not Many Posts: 17,892	No, I would not do that __________________ IWC Portugieser 7 Day, Omega Seamaster SMP300m, Vacheron Constantin Traditionnelle Complete Calendar, Glashutte PanoInverse, Glashutte SeaQ Panorama Date, Omega Aqua Terra 150, Omega CK 859, Omega Speedmaster 3861 Moonwatch, Breitling Superocean Steelfish, JLC Atmos Transparent Clock

3 December 2021, 11:05 PM	#3
Harry-57 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Real Name: Harry Location: England Posts: 10,676	No and no. Not on value so much as what you are getting compared to the watches you will lose.

3 December 2021, 11:25 PM	#5
Tanalasta "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: . Posts: 602	No. You're trading two perfectly good watches with provenance for a TT Daytona that isn't even that pretty.

3 December 2021, 11:42 PM	#6
mg18 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Toronto Watch: 126710BLRO Posts: 696	no shot on that trade.

3 December 2021, 11:46 PM	#7
brandrea 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 78,106	Two for one trades almost never work in the sellers advantage from what I’ve seen. Cash is king and if you can swing it, I’d buy the Daytona and sell the ones you need privately

3 December 2021, 11:59 PM	#10
blue17 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2021 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 10	I don't like the trade, even without cash from you.

4 December 2021, 12:02 AM	#11
rmlovett1 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Richard Location: GA Watch: YTBD Posts: 23,509	Value wise I’d say it’s close to a straight trade…..although I say this with no knowledge of history, condition of watches, polished or not, are they all full sets, etc….(that’d be helpful) But I could definitely see where the seller would ask for $$ on top, solely due to Daytona hype. I personally would not trade those two for that particular TT Daytona.

4 December 2021, 01:22 AM	#12
jimcameron "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: ByDawns Earlylite Watch: 16800 Posts: 3,580	If you want a 2tone Daytona, I'd go for it. The "Grape" may be harder to move, and the black Explorer is not uncommon.

4 December 2021, 02:21 AM	#14
Willyjo 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,330	Just no. You are getting fleeced. Sent from my SM-G985F using Tapatalk

4 December 2021, 04:05 AM	#15
Fleetlord 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Vain Posts: 6,023	Sorry, but not enough information to evaluate Are all the watches full set? Crisp and complete? The dealer is insisting you are "short" because you are. Did the dealer mention how much cash was needed on you part to complete the trade?

4 December 2021, 04:08 AM	#16
espngo "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Virginia Posts: 81	$1k on my end to complete the sale. I declined. Thanks for the advice guys. For once I actually listened. Usually I just say screw it and do my own thing. Glad though, was kind of disappointed with the Daytona. It feels really small and kind of underwhelming.

4 December 2021, 04:12 AM	#17
indianmachine "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: USA Posts: 796	think you made the right call OP... your existing pieces are much more versatile as a pair than that 1 TT daytona

4 December 2021, 04:39 AM	#18
CoveWatch "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: SoCal Watch: Rolex & AP Posts: 4,535	I rather keep the two u have

4 December 2021, 05:08 AM	#19
tymonster "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: MidWest Posts: 363	Would not do that trade even if you paid me to.

4 December 2021, 05:11 AM	#20
Watch This Banned Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: In your head Watch: SS YMII Posts: 1,619	no

4 December 2021, 09:51 AM	#21
dnuggett "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: TX Posts: 100	No, that Daytona is one of the uglier Daytona's I have seen.

4 December 2021, 09:58 AM	#22
sunnygps 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Texas Posts: 1,145	Another NO to this trade.

4 December 2021, 10:20 AM	#23
Otto 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Japan Watch: Daytona and others Posts: 3,023	I have no opinion on whether it’s a good trade, but the Daytona you’re considering is my favorite “two-tone” Daytona. It is an absolutely beautiful watch in person, but I gave it up reluctantly to obtain another watch long ago. If I were to ever consider another “two-tone” Daytona, it would be the same model. You should see it in the sun in Hawaii! These are not the best photos, but in my opinion, it’s a beautiful watch.

4 December 2021, 10:29 AM	#24
PepsiBezel 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: USA Watch: Neo-Vintage Posts: 1,212	I think the TT Slate Daytona is cool and unique… having a unique Daytona is never a bad thing. I support “converting” your Explorer II and Grape OP in the Daytona, but as others mentioned, I’d try to sell privately or at least shop around to a few other Gray/resellers/trusted sellers. You may be better off converting those to $ and buying the Daytona. Good luck!

4 December 2021, 10:29 AM	#25
subdeeptona "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: new york Posts: 7	go to an rolex Authorized dealer and trade these watches with them and build some history

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