Need Advice: Consolidate for PM Daytona?

[derklink]

Folks,

With stainless steel model prices UP, like many I have thought about consolidating and getting a PM piece.

It is the 116519 WG Oysterflex black dial with diamond markers and I could get it from my AD with a 3 to 8 month wait.

In my collection are:

1. 214270 MKI (stays)
2. 116710 BLNR (stays)
3. 116610 LV (stays)

4. 16570 white dial (sell?)
5. 16710 Pepsi/Coke Oyster & Jubilee (sell?)
6. 116520 black dial (sell?)

Obviously, I'd only consider selling the Explorer II, GMT Master II and/or the Daytona. Out of these three, I'd say I wear the Explorer 2 the most, followed by Daytona and then GMT.

I know the Ex II and the GMT wouldn't net enough to cover the WG Daytona, so it would probably be the steel Daytona and either the Ex II or the GMT. The steel Daytona and the Ex II are near mint condition and the GMT is still in very good condition. All are full sets.

I am hesitant because the steel Daytona is so iconic and the last one without the ceramic bezel that I may regret letting it go. The Ex II white dial is cool to me because it is quite different and doesn't scream Rolex. I thought I'd love the GMT more (actually prefer to wear my BLNR) but it is also an absolutely iconic watch. I have it on Jubilee with a Pepsi insert currently. Maybe I should swap back to Oyster and Coke to make it more "interesting" for me.

What would you guys do?

Thank you!

[Henrimontgomery]

Don't sell 116520 for another variant in PM.

SS is more precious than PM in this case. I'd however get rid of 214270, 16570 and even 16710 (since you have 116710).

Don't buy WG OF though. I'd say go with either the Full PM Daytona (yellow green dial, white blue dial, or rose gold sundust dial). IMO the ceramic bezel kills the daytona look.

My favorite current iteration of daytona is this one https://www.rolex.com/watches/cosmog...6505-0017.html

[Alan111]

I would do the exact opposite.

1. 214270 MKI (sell)
2. 116710 BLNR (sell)
3. 116610 LV (sell)

4. 16570 white dial (stays)
5. 16710 Pepsi/Coke Oyster & Jubilee (stays))
6. 116520 black dial (stays))

[karleone]

Originally Posted by alan111

i would do the exact opposite.

1. 214270 mki (sell)
2. 116710 blnr (sell)
3. 116610 lv (sell)

4. 16570 white dial (stays)
5. 16710 pepsi/coke oyster & jubilee (stays))
6. 116520 black dial (stays))

+1

[derklink]

Originally Posted by Henrimontgomery

Don't sell 116520 for another variant in PM.

SS is more precious than PM in this case. I'd however get rid of 214270, 16570 and even 16710 (since you have 116710).

Don't buy WG OF though. I'd say go with either the Full PM Daytona (yellow green dial, white blue dial, or rose gold sundust dial). IMO the ceramic bezel kills the daytona look.

My favorite current iteration of daytona is this one https://www.rolex.com/watches/cosmog...6505-0017.html

Looks very nice but too gaudy for me and don't like the heft of full gold bracelet, which is why I thought OF would be a good solution and also more under the radar. Can't get rid of 214270 due sentimental value and will be passed on to my son.

[derklink]

Originally Posted by karleone

+1

Why would you do it the other way around?

[derklink]

Originally Posted by Alan111

I would do the exact opposite.

1. 214270 MKI (sell)
2. 116710 BLNR (sell)
3. 116610 LV (sell)

4. 16570 white dial (stays)
5. 16710 Pepsi/Coke Oyster & Jubilee (stays))
6. 116520 black dial (stays))

Specific reason?

[Alan111]

Originally Posted by derklink

Specific reason?

Because there's nothing special about the one's you want to keep.


16570 white dial - very unique and no longer in production. Nothing closely similar to it.

16710 Pepsi/Coke Oyster & Jubilee - very unique and no longer in production. Nothing closely similar to it.

116520 black dial - I can go either way on this one.

[HMHM]

The only one I would recommend keeping is the 116520 out of the 3 u plan to sell... The Daytona OF is really nice but the 116520 is a keeper.

[JUSTIFIED]

I bought the SS Daytona new in 2016 at MSRP. I knew it was the end of an era for that model, but I had no idea how much it'd increase in value and it just keeps going up. At $20K I thought it would slow down and now it's closing in on $30K (per Chrono24 valuation. I've also thought about selling, but believe I'd be kicking myself a few years down the road. Might a price correction occur? Perhaps, but believe it'll remain highly sought after.

That said, I also enjoy wearing it. If you don't, then future value may not be a major factor.

[Henrimontgomery]

Originally Posted by JUSTIFIED

I bought the SS Daytona new in 2016 at MSRP. I knew it was the end of an era for that model, but I had no idea how much it'd increase in value and it just keeps going up. At $20K I thought it would slow down and now it's closing in on $30K (per Chrono24 valuation. I've also thought about selling, but believe I'd be kicking myself a few years down the road. Might a price correction occur? Perhaps, but believe it'll remain highly sought after.

That said, I also enjoy wearing it. If you don't, then future value may not be a major factor.

Don’t sell what you like.

I’ve sold watches I didn’t like and felt great joy to get rid of them. I have watches I sometimes think about selling because of their low wrist time and interesting grey worth. But then I think I don’t need the money and will miss them.

[Santiago32]

I wouldn't do that for a 116519 since you have a lot of white metals in your collection.

Maybe for a YG or RG Daytona OF and I would try to keep the 116520

[28mm]

I wouldn't sell a thing.

[derklink]

Originally Posted by Alan111

Because there's nothing special about the one's you want to keep.

Special to me for sure: Wore the Explorer I when my son was born and helped deliver him so that one is for sure his. BLNR was the watch I picked out together with my back then GF and wore when I married her, so also very special to me. The green Sub is just a cool watch which I love and as "flashy" as I'd go. Also no longer in production.


16570 white dial - very unique and no longer in production. Nothing closely similar to it.

I hear you. It is very cool and unique and a great watch for the summer. Have never seen one in the wild besides my brother's.

16710 Pepsi/Coke Oyster & Jubilee - very unique and no longer in production. Nothing closely similar to it.

They made a gazillion of those but will be harder to find good examples at reasonable price going forward. The versatility is pretty cool. You can have 6 looks in one watch. No other Rolex offers that.

116520 black dial - I can go either way on this one.

Me too somehow. There are days where I think it is the coolest watch of all but sometimes I think there are more interesting ones out there.

[derklink]

Originally Posted by HMHM

The only one I would recommend keeping is the 116520 out of the 3 u plan to sell... The Daytona OF is really nice but the 116520 is a keeper.

Seems to be the consensus here

[derklink]

Originally Posted by JUSTIFIED

I bought the SS Daytona new in 2016 at MSRP. I knew it was the end of an era for that model, but I had no idea how much it'd increase in value and it just keeps going up. At $20K I thought it would slow down and now it's closing in on $30K (per Chrono24 valuation. I've also thought about selling, but believe I'd be kicking myself a few years down the road. Might a price correction occur? Perhaps, but believe it'll remain highly sought after.

That said, I also enjoy wearing it. If you don't, then future value may not be a major factor.

I do enjoy wearing it but am a little torn. Some days I love it, other days not so much

[derklink]

Originally Posted by Henrimontgomery

Don’t sell what you like.

I’ve sold watches I didn’t like and felt great joy to get rid of them. I have watches I sometimes think about selling because of their low wrist time and interesting grey worth. But then I think I don’t need the money and will miss them.

I sold only one (a black Sub) and have no regrets. Money sure is a factor as this year was a very "expensive" one (new house + remodel). Also, I'm wondering if 6 is too many. I keep rotating the same 3 to 4 for the most time.

[derklink]

Originally Posted by Santiago32

I wouldn't do that for a 116519 since you have a lot of white metals in your collection.

Maybe for a YG or RG Daytona OF and I would try to keep the 116520

I am an under-the-radar person and WG is the only precious metal I would wear and could afford. I also dress low key/without labels/brands visible, that's just who I am

[derklink]

Originally Posted by 28mm

I wouldn't sell a thing.

I seriously thought about that, too, and my motto has always been rather adding to the collection vs. selling unless I absolutely am out of love with a piece. Going that route would take some time to save up and the WG Daytona should stay in production for a while. On the other hand, I currently have a good "momentum" with my AD.

[Santiago32]

Originally Posted by derklink

I am an under-the-radar person and WG is the only precious metal I would wear and could afford. I also dress low key/without labels/brands visible, that's just who I am

With what you said I would personally keep your collection as-is and not sell anything.

[envuks]

I keep the 116520 for sure.


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[Solo118]

Originally Posted by derklink

Folks,

With stainless steel model prices UP, like many I have thought about consolidating and getting a PM piece.

It is the 116519 WG Oysterflex black dial with diamond markers and I could get it from my AD with a 3 to 8 month wait.

In my collection are:

1. 214270 MKI (stays)
2. 116710 BLNR (stays)
3. 116610 LV (stays)

4. 16570 white dial (sell?)
5. 16710 Pepsi/Coke Oyster & Jubilee (sell?)
6. 116520 black dial (sell?)

Obviously, I'd only consider selling the Explorer II, GMT Master II and/or the Daytona. Out of these three, I'd say I wear the Explorer 2 the most, followed by Daytona and then GMT.

I know the Ex II and the GMT wouldn't net enough to cover the WG Daytona, so it would probably be the steel Daytona and either the Ex II or the GMT. The steel Daytona and the Ex II are near mint condition and the GMT is still in very good condition. All are full sets.

I am hesitant because the steel Daytona is so iconic and the last one without the ceramic bezel that I may regret letting it go. The Ex II white dial is cool to me because it is quite different and doesn't scream Rolex. I thought I'd love the GMT more (actually prefer to wear my BLNR) but it is also an absolutely iconic watch. I have it on Jubilee with a Pepsi insert currently. Maybe I should swap back to Oyster and Coke to make it more "interesting" for me.

What would you guys do?

Thank you!

I will save you some headache and heartache. I did the same years ago, and regretted it. You have a great collection, keep it as is or add to it.

If you really want to make it work, you can flip/trade all 3 to get 1 PM watch on strap. Maybe it was full bracelet version it would be worth it, but 3 for 1 on the 116519 would not be worth it to me.

For the meantime, you can always buy an Oysterflex or even a Rubber B strap + smarty end links for the Daytona to have the same look as the 116519 (minus diamonds and ceramic bezel of course)

[28mm]

Originally Posted by derklink

I seriously thought about that, too, and my motto has always been rather adding to the collection vs. selling unless I absolutely am out of love with a piece. Going that route would take some time to save up and the WG Daytona should stay in production for a while. On the other hand, I currently have a good "momentum" with my AD.

From experience I can share that my own tastes can change about my own collection. That's a big part of the fun for me in having what I have. I bought the 16570 in 2002, never wore it and never really felt much one way or another about the watch.

Then this year, helped by seeing the newer version at 42mm, which I can't stand, I rediscovered the Explorer 2 and am so glad I never let it go.

The re- discovery process for me is awesome. I have not worn my Milgauss in a really long time but look forward to 're-discovering' it.

You write that you are a 'low key' person and that's even more why I feel like you might feel differently about your collection in the future.

I was told a WG Daytona might be in my future...not by a fortune teller but by the AD and after thinking about it I said, "Thanks but not for me right now".

Anyway, that's my perspective and of course everyone is different in what they like or want!

[Beto737]

I think it’s unwise to depart with any stainless Daytona. But that’s just me.

[derklink]

Originally Posted by Solo118

I will save you some headache and heartache. I did the same years ago, and regretted it. You have a great collection, keep it as is or add to it.

If you really want to make it work, you can flip/trade all 3 to get 1 PM watch on strap. Maybe it was full bracelet version it would be worth it, but 3 for 1 on the 116519 would not be worth it to me.

For the meantime, you can always buy an Oysterflex or even a Rubber B strap + smarty end links for the Daytona to have the same look as the 116519 (minus diamonds and ceramic bezel of course)

Thank you for your feedback. Wouldn't do all 3 for 116519, only steel Daytona plus either Ex II or GMT. I prefer the "original look", so would not throw Rubber B on a steel Daytona.

[derklink]

Originally Posted by 28mm

From experience I can share that my own tastes can change about my own collection. That's a big part of the fun for me in having what I have. I bought the 16570 in 2002, never wore it and never really felt much one way or another about the watch.

Then this year, helped by seeing the newer version at 42mm, which I can't stand, I rediscovered the Explorer 2 and am so glad I never let it go.

The re- discovery process for me is awesome. I have not worn my Milgauss in a really long time but look forward to 're-discovering' it.

You write that you are a 'low key' person and that's even more why I feel like you might feel differently about your collection in the future.

I was told a WG Daytona might be in my future...not by a fortune teller but by the AD and after thinking about it I said, "Thanks but not for me right now".

Anyway, that's my perspective and of course everyone is different in what they like or want!

Thank you and couldn't agree more on the 42mm Explorer 2 but to each their own. To some, my small collection is probably very boring.

[derklink]

Originally Posted by Beto737

I think it’s unwise to depart with any stainless Daytona. But that’s just me.

It's almost everybody in this thread I should probably cough up the $ and add the WG. If it came in 8 months, that should be fine. If it came in 3, probably not.

[nosignalbmwdriver]

you dont need 6 steel watches. Do it!

[28mm]

Originally Posted by derklink

It's almost everybody in this thread I should probably cough up the $ and add the WG. If it came in 8 months, that should be fine. If it came in 3, probably not.

To make it even more personal, after wearing my 116520 recently, I considered selling it..I bought it new, it's mint in 2007...Black dial...At the time I stupidly sold off the White dial variant! I asked my fiancee's opinion and it was so strong I was surprised..' DO NOT SELL THAT WATCH. ARE YOU CRAZY..YOU LOVE IT AND COLLECT THEM! NO WAY!

Loved her input!...I wish my 116520 had a white dial considering how many black dials I have but if someone were to do a straight up trade for a white dial, I couldn't ever do it for sentimental reasons.

Originally Posted by nosignalbmwdriver

you dont need 6 steel watches. Do it!

Need?

[karleone]

The 16570 and 16710 are classics. The 116520 is a keeper (I have a 116500 and it’s my favorite watch). The other ones though I have no feelings.