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paxjedi · 10 January 2022, 11:42 PM

What is a Mark 1 Sea Dweller?
What is the difference between other marks of the same model?
Educate me please

padi56 · 10 January 2022, 11:46 PM

No such think all this Mk stuff only exists in internet land, perhaps its the tiny crown font in-between the Swiss Made bottom dial indicating in most Rolex watches it has a 32 series movement. All this Mk stuff might indicate slight font or bezel colour changes, much like there have on most all Rolex models over the past 50 years

paxjedi · 10 January 2022, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by padi56

No such think all this Mk stuff only exists in internet land, perhaps its the tiny crown font in-between the Swiss Made bottom dial indicating in most Rolex watches it has a 32 series movement. All this Mk stuff might indicate slight font or bezel colour changes, much like there have on most all Rolex models over the past 50 years

Yes I understand what Mk is all about - and the accompanying hype for pixel peepers. But I just want to know what is the specific difference between a MK1 and succeeding MKs for this Sea Dweller.

I am planning to get one and I like to understand everything about a Rolex model before I buy it. I don't really care whatever MK version I get, but I just want to know. Thanks.

rambo99 · 11 January 2022, 12:01 AM

mk 2 has a crown printed between the swiss made on the bottom of the dial while mk 1 do not. and mk 1 dial is only used for the first production year, then all SD43 are with the mk 2 dial.

1665fan · 11 January 2022, 12:01 AM

Mk1 is the old movement people…….

alphadweller · 11 January 2022, 12:03 AM

The two main differences between mk1 and mk2:

- font in number one: l,220 (sans serif) vs 1,220 (serif)
- mk2 has the coronet between Swiss and Made, mk1 doesn't

Also, the font of Oyster Perpetual seems bolder in the mk1.

brandrea · 11 January 2022, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by 1665fan

Mk1 is the old movement people…….

Nope it has the 3235

alphadweller · 11 January 2022, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by 1665fan

Mk1 is the old movement people…….

Good joke.

For those who don't know, the mk1 has the 3235 caliber, in fact it's the first professional model to have it.

paxjedi · 11 January 2022, 12:04 AM

Okay, I see the crown change now. Interesting!

Now what is the MK1 movement and what is the movement on the MK2?
For the Explorer, which I have, I know the 3185 movement was changed to 3186. So I am curious as to the MK1 to MK2 movement for the Sea Dweller.

rambo99 · 11 January 2022, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by 1665fan

Mk1 is the old movement people…….

no, movement are the same.

paxjedi · 11 January 2022, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by alphadweller

Good joke.

For those who don't know, the mk1 has the 3235 caliber, in fact it's the first professional model to have it.

If the mk1 has the 3235, then what does the mk2 have?
Shouldn't the later mks have better / improved movements?

rambo99 · 11 January 2022, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by paxjedi

Yes I understand what Mk is all about - and the accompanying hype for pixel peepers. But I just want to know what is the specific difference between a MK1 and succeeding MKs for this Sea Dweller.

I am planning to get one and I like to understand everything about a Rolex model before I buy it. I don't really care whatever MK version I get, but I just want to know. Thanks.

mk 1 dial is already discontinued so you wont get it from AD now. if you buy from grey, the mk 1 version will command a premium of around 10% over the mk 2 version.

joli160 · 11 January 2022, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by paxjedi

If the mk1 has the 3235, then what does the mk2 have?
Shouldn't the later mks have better / improved movements?

Same movement.

paxjedi · 11 January 2022, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by rambo99

mk 1 dial is already discontinued so you wont get it from AD now. if you buy from grey, the mk 1 version will command a premium of around 10% over the mk 2 version.

REALLY?
And why is that?
Because it was discontinued?
If the mvnt is the same and the dial differences are irrelevant (to me at least).
So why the premium?

I need to study this watch model much more before I purchase.

Thanks

rambo99 · 11 January 2022, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by paxjedi

REALLY?
And why is that?
Because it was discontinued?
If the mvnt is the same and the dial differences are irrelevant (to me at least).
So why the premium?

I need to study this watch model much more before I purchase.

Thanks

yes, because of the discontinuation, the grey market is always right.

padi56 · 11 January 2022, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by paxjedi

If the mk1 has the 3235, then what does the mk2 have?
Shouldn't the later mks have better / improved movements?

Same movement but has tiny minuscule font dial changes on the so called Mk11 nothing more, and seeing dials are made in 3 different factories now all owned by Rolex .There always have been and always will be tiny variations over production years on most all Rolex watches..

paxjedi · 11 January 2022, 12:26 AM

Thank you everybody for the quick education.
I think I understand a little bit more now.

GrantD · 11 January 2022, 12:30 AM

The main difference is that you can get the SD43 with mk2 dial at list if you’re lucky the mk1 dial is only secong hand now so will be a couple of grand more.

alphadweller · 11 January 2022, 01:04 AM

DavidSW charges $3,300 more for the mk1.

https://davidsw.com/shop/watch/rolex...ler-mark-i-45/

https://davidsw.com/shop/watch/rolex...eadweller-125/

Devildog · 11 January 2022, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by 1665fan

Mk1 is the old movement people…….

Not in the 126600. Its had the new movement since introduction.

The DJ41 was also introduced with the new movement and no crown at the bottom of the dial.

Devildog · 11 January 2022, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by paxjedi

REALLY?
And why is that?
Because it was discontinued?
If the mvnt is the same and the dial differences are irrelevant (to me at least).
So why the premium?

I need to study this watch model much more before I purchase.

Thanks

The premium is most likely because the MK1 dial was the dial used in the actual 50th anniversary year releases.

If on is really being pedantic a 2017 (anniversary year) 126600 (which will be a MK1 by default) should carry a higher premium than a 2018 "MK1" which will carry a higher premium than a "MK2"

To some people that's important. But then some people will pay $000's more for an old Daytona with a dial with a printing fault on it.

Watch collectors are a strange bunch

Manamana · 11 January 2022, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Devildog

The premium is most likely because the MK1 dial was the dial used in the actual 50th anniversary year releases.

If on is really being pedantic a 2017 (anniversary year) 126600 (which will be a MK1 by default) should carry a higher premium than a 2018 "MK1" which will carry a higher premium than a "MK2"

To some people that's important. But then some people will pay $000's more for an old Daytona with a dial with a printing fault on it.

Watch collectors are a strange bunch

Actually it may be the opposite. A Mk1 dial with a 2020 card should hold more premium than a Mk1 dial with a 2019 card, and both should have more premium than a Mk1 dial with a 2017 card. most Mk1 SD43s have a 2017 card while a Mk1 SD43 with a 2020 card will be very rare. An SD43 Mk1 dial with a 2022 card will be even rarer. Of course they all should carry a higher premium than any year Mk2

paxjedi · 11 January 2022, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by alphadweller

DavidSW charges $3,300 more for the mk1.

https://davidsw.com/shop/watch/rolex...ler-mark-i-45/

https://davidsw.com/shop/watch/rolex...eadweller-125/

Wow!
Just wow!

paxjedi · 11 January 2022, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Manamana

Actually it may be the opposite. A Mk1 dial with a 2020 card should hold more premium than a Mk1 dial with a 2019 card, and both should have more premium than a Mk1 dial with a 2017 card. most Mk1 SD43s have a 2017 card while a Mk1 SD43 with a 2020 card will be very rare.

OK, I now what I should look for now.

A James Cameron Sub-Sea Dweller.
It will be perfect on my 6" wrist.
Should give me a good bicep workout.

GrantD · 11 January 2022, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by paxjedi

OK, I now what I should look for now.

A James Cameron Sub-Sea Dweller.
It will be perfect on my 6" wrist.
Should give me a good bicep workout.

Is that with or without date ?

Devildog · 11 January 2022, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Manamana

Actually it may be the opposite. A Mk1 dial with a 2020 card should hold more premium than a Mk1 dial with a 2019 card, and both should have more premium than a Mk1 dial with a 2017 card. most Mk1 SD43s have a 2017 card while a Mk1 SD43 with a 2020 card will be very rare. An SD43 Mk1 dial with a 2022 will be even rarer

If rarity is one's sole measure of value, then absolutely yes.

Personally I'd pay more for a 50th Anniversary SD with a 2017, 50th Anniversary, dated card, being a "true anniversary" watch.

Devildog · 11 January 2022, 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paxjedi

OK, I now what I should look for now.

A James Cameron Sub-Sea Dweller.
It will be perfect on my 6" wrist.
Should give me a good bicep workout.

Joking aside, if you have a 6 inch wrist I'd give the 126600 a miss.

Manamana · 11 January 2022, 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paxjedi

OK, I now what I should look for now.

A James Cameron Sub-Sea Dweller.
It will be perfect on my 6" wrist.
Should give me a good bicep workout.

With a 6 inch wrist you should forget any sports Rolex

Maybe a YM37 or 36 Explorer will be perfect for you.

Manamana · 11 January 2022, 01:55 AM

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Devildog · 11 January 2022, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Manamana

All Mk1 dials are 2017. If there were no changes in dial there will be no Mk1 or Mk2. In the future for instance after 10 or 15 years when the premium between Mk1 and Mk2 gets much higher (Assuming at that time the difference is picked up, and recognised by collectors. It may never happen) There will be a flood of counterfeit Mk1 2017 dated cards.

There are MK1s with 2018 cards. I’ve seen some on here. Do we know for a fact that all MK1s were made in 2017?

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alphadweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Real Name: Vic Location: Spain Watch: SD43 Posts: 6,198	The two main differences between mk1 and mk2: - font in number one: l,220 (sans serif) vs 1,220 (serif) - mk2 has the coronet between Swiss and Made, mk1 doesn't Also, the font of Oyster Perpetual seems bolder in the mk1. Attached Images

11 January 2022, 12:04 AM	#9
paxjedi "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2021 Real Name: Montemayor Location: Madrid Posts: 425	Okay, I see the crown change now. Interesting! Now what is the MK1 movement and what is the movement on the MK2? For the Explorer, which I have, I know the 3185 movement was changed to 3186. So I am curious as to the MK1 to MK2 movement for the Sea Dweller. __________________ You never actually own a Rolex. Eventually your son inherits your place on the waiting list.

11 January 2022, 12:26 AM	#17
paxjedi "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2021 Real Name: Montemayor Location: Madrid Posts: 425	Thank you everybody for the quick education. I think I understand a little bit more now. __________________ You never actually own a Rolex. Eventually your son inherits your place on the waiting list.

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rambo99 Banned Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Tokyo Watch: SD43,PAM1616,Hulk Posts: 3,567	mk 2 has a crown printed between the swiss made on the bottom of the dial while mk 1 do not. and mk 1 dial is only used for the first production year, then all SD43 are with the mk 2 dial.

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GrantD "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: England Posts: 415	The main difference is that you can get the SD43 with mk2 dial at list if you’re lucky the mk1 dial is only secong hand now so will be a couple of grand more.

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alphadweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Real Name: Vic Location: Spain Watch: SD43 Posts: 6,198	DavidSW charges $3,300 more for the mk1. https://davidsw.com/shop/watch/rolex...ler-mark-i-45/ https://davidsw.com/shop/watch/rolex...eadweller-125/

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