Tudor BB Pro thickness

[Maxy]

Of all Tudor watches I find BB GMT which is 41mm very thick at 14.6mm and now they have used same movement and made it 39mm and still 14.6mm. It makes no sense. It should have been BB 58 GMT at 12.5mm thickness. It'll look like brick at that thickness for that small diameter watch. They should have waited couple of years and made special thin GMT movement. We already have one 41mm, why to release another model at 39mm without working on thickness. Not great move IMO!

Many folks want Explorer II at 40mm, this would have been perfect replacement at 12.5mm thickness of 16570. Too bad, Rolex missed it!

[johnwigan]

Originally Posted by Maxy

Of all Tudor watches I find BB GMT which is 41mm very thick at 14.6mm and now they have used same movement and made it 39mm and still 14.6mm. It makes no sense. It should have been BB 58 GMT at 12.5mm thickness. It'll look like brick at that thickness for that small diameter watch. They should have waited couple of years and made special thin GMT movement. We already have one 41mm, why to release another model at 39mm without working on thickness. Not great move IMO!

Tudor watches are crippled to avoid cannibalising Rolex watches.

[nighthawk77]

To me Tudor feels like they 'almost' make great watches, but there always seems to be something in my opinion which stops them being great. A shame, as these things usually seem to be elements which they're capable of correcting - watch thickness, better clasps/micro adjust etc.

Maybe it is to avoid directly competing with Rolex, or maybe the voice and opinions of enthusiasts doesn't matter to them as they sell anyway...

[teck21]

Originally Posted by nighthawk77

To me Tudor feels like they 'almost' make great watches, but there always seems to be something in my opinion which stops them being great. A shame, as these things usually seem to be elements which they're capable of correcting - watch thickness, better clasps/micro adjust etc.

Maybe it is to avoid directly competing with Rolex, or maybe the voice and opinions of enthusiasts doesn't matter to them as they sell anyway...

Your enthusiasm is not the only one there is.

Why would Tudors sell well if there weren’t enthusiasts? It’s not like they are appreciating assets either.


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[mquarter]

Tudor is basically a one watch brand - the BB58.

[*M5]

Originally Posted by Maxy

Of all Tudor watches I find BB GMT which is 41mm very thick at 14.6mm and now they have used same movement and made it 39mm and still 14.6mm. It makes no sense. It should have been BB 58 GMT at 12.5mm thickness. It'll look like brick at that thickness for that small diameter watch. They should have waited couple of years and made special thin GMT movement. We already have one 41mm, why to release another model at 39mm without working on thickness. Not great move IMO!

Many folks want Explorer II at 40mm, this would have been perfect replacement at 12.5mm thickness of 16570. Too bad, Rolex missed it!

Agreed.

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[wh9]

Someone on reddit has already managed to get their hands on one, doesn't look as bad as I originally thought it would, especially on a smaller wrist.

Can't post links due to low post count but album is on imgur /a/EQtFllH

[Krash]

To put this in perspective, 14.6mm is thicker than my 42mm Seamaster Diver 300m, and that’s my biggest, thickest, heaviest watch I have.

I’d have to try it on before drawing any conclusions, but that watch isn’t on my shopping list anyway, so I guess it’s a moot point.


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[samson66]

Tend to agree. Like I said in another post they should have kept this release at 41mm and saved the 39mm GMT until they could develop a thinner movement to fit in the 58 case. The 41x14 size was just fine. No need to downsize to a 39 with the same thickness. I think this was a miss for Tudor.

[14060man]

Are you guys unaware that a 1655, which the BB Pro is inspired by, is thicker than a 12.5mm 16570? The 16570 has a lower cut sapphire crystal than the 1655’s plastic crystal. The BB Pro crystal is domed.

Here’s the thickness of a 1655 for reference.



And here is a 16570:



And here is the Black Bay Pro’s domed crystal in profile:

[14060man]

A 5513 Sub has a 14.5mm thickness, and it is considered a classically-dimensioned reference. I don’t see folks here complaining about the thickness of a 5513. On the contrary, many consider the 5513 the quintessential Rolex sports watch, if not the greatest of all time.

[samoc]

Originally Posted by nighthawk77

To me Tudor feels like they 'almost' make great watches, but there always seems to be something in my opinion which stops them being great. A shame, as these things usually seem to be elements which they're capable of correcting - watch thickness, better clasps/micro adjust etc.

Maybe it is to avoid directly competing with Rolex, or maybe the voice and opinions of enthusiasts doesn't matter to them as they sell anyway...

Agreed, with the exception of the BB58. The case is the perfect size and width, and the metal bezel and the snowflake handset is appropriate for a rugged dive watch.

That’s why the disappointment is palpable over the thickness of the BB Pro. People know what Tudor can do if they put their mind to it. Hopefully, they make refinements over time to the BB Pro that get them there.

[Dan Pierce]

If mere millimeters are keeping you from a particular watch either move on or adjust your expectations.

Maybe all the pearl clutching could help build up enough girth on those dainty wrists.
dP

[Crazy Lugs]

Originally Posted by johnwigan

Tudor watches are crippled to avoid cannibalising Rolex watches.

The answer is above. I dunno why no one simply acknowledges the truth here. There will always be something “missing” from a Tudor piece regardless of model.

The BB58 comes the closest to perfection, having owned one, but the bracelet holds it back from being perfect, IMHO.

If Tudor released a BB58 GMT, it would essentially become the modern day 16710 and make the Rolex GMT look crass in comparison.

[14060man]

I actually like the Black Bay Pro. I think the 2021 42mm Rolex Explorer II was a missed opportunity to return to the classic Explorer II sizing. Are people really clamoring for a bloated 50mm lug to lug width, plus protruding end links, glossy black dials with white gold surrounds on an Explorer II? And the hands on the 42mm Explorer II are cartoonish. The Black Bay Pro is a refreshing return to tool watch basics, classic sizing and zero bling.

[JoeCool76]

Originally Posted by 14060man

A 5513 Sub has a 14.5mm thickness, and it is considered a classically-dimensioned reference. I don’t see folks here complaining about the thickness of a 5513. On the contrary, many consider the 5513 the quintessential Rolex sports watch, if not the greatest of all time.

On that one a good portion of the thickness is the domed crystal, the case itself is thinner.

[Maxy]

Originally Posted by 14060man

A 5513 Sub has a 14.5mm thickness, and it is considered a classically-dimensioned reference. I don’t see folks here complaining about the thickness of a 5513. On the contrary, many consider the 5513 the quintessential Rolex sports watch, if not the greatest of all time.

That's a dive watch unlike gmt.

[Dan Pierce]

Originally Posted by Maxy

That's a dive watch unlike gmt.

With the WR at 200 meters it can dive too.
dP

[Tricolore66]

Try comparing them to the market segment they compete in instead of their Rolex relatives, which cost 2x as much at MSRP and 3-4x as much at market price. Tudor compares very favorably against their primary competitors, Omega, Breitling, and Tag.

Enough with the complaining about this new watch, that nobody here has yet to try on.

Originally Posted by nighthawk77

To me Tudor feels like they 'almost' make great watches, but there always seems to be something in my opinion which stops them being great. A shame, as these things usually seem to be elements which they're capable of correcting - watch thickness, better clasps/micro adjust etc.

Maybe it is to avoid directly competing with Rolex, or maybe the voice and opinions of enthusiasts doesn't matter to them as they sell anyway...

[kieselguhr]

Originally Posted by Tricolore66

complaining about this new watch, that nobody here has yet to try on.

Agreed.

[14060man]

Originally Posted by Maxy

That's a dive watch unlike gmt.

The BB Pro has the same 200m depth rating as the 5513.

[Stoge]

I share the too thick sentiment. I loved the Pro when I saw it and the first thing I did was search all over for how thick it was. I currently have the BB GMT and I simply never wear it because I don't like the thickness. If it's the only watch I had though I don't think I would notice as much. The different came in for me when I also got into Rolex and was fortunate enough to get some modern models to wear daily. There's just really no comparison on the fit.

As someone said above, it's like the "almost" make great watches. If they could just make these GMTs in the BB58 shell, it would be an immediate hit IMO.

Obviously this is very specific to me personally and my wrist size and fit. The PRO model as a watch is AMAZING and I think they killed it aesthetically from the top down. Side thickness of the case (not the crystal) is all it is for me personally.

[JakeK]

Originally Posted by Dan Pierce

If mere millimeters are keeping you from a particular watch either move on or adjust your expectations.

Maybe all the pearl clutching could help build up enough girth on those dainty wrists.
dP

Dan your comment makes my day even better!

[scurfa]

Believe me the thickness is not a problem, you need to see it, it’s beautiful




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[Tqmb79]

I have a Tudor Pepsi and don’t find it too thick. Yes it’s bigger than a Rolex but it sits great on my wrist which is 6.75in. I do think Tudor should have kept it 41mm but I’ll have to see the new pro in the flesh to determine if it works. I have requested one and can’t wait. I suspect it will sit nicely and look great. What a value. I bet these go above retail for a while. Let’s see

[opawlows]

Originally Posted by scurfa

Believe me the thickness is not a problem, you need to see it, it’s beautiful




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Incredible pics! Cant wait to see this one in person. The domed crystal is one of the features that I am a big fan of so the additional 2 mm due to that is a non-issue for me!

[RyanJ]

Originally Posted by Crazy Lugs

The answer is above. I dunno why no one simply acknowledges the truth here. There will always be something “missing” from a Tudor piece regardless of model.

The BB58 comes the closest to perfection, having owned one, but the bracelet holds it back from being perfect, IMHO.

If Tudor released a BB58 GMT, it would essentially become the modern day 16710 and make the Rolex GMT look crass in comparison.

Because many here look for Rolex on the dial first. Everything else is secondary. I mean that's ok as you buy what you like..

But I do agree with you. I feel Rolex intentionally holds them back.

Some say people would never buy a Tudor if they could buy a Rolex. Not true with me. If they built a BB58 sized GMT with a reliable GMT movement, I would not even think twice. I bet it would take business away from the Rolex GMT sales for those that do not care about brand.

[14060man]

Rolex holds itself back. The 42mm Rolex Explorer II is a larded monstrosity. With its classic sizing, the Black Bay Pro smokes the current 42mm Rolex counterpart.

[minute_man]

Originally Posted by Dan Pierce

If mere millimeters are keeping you from a particular watch either move on or adjust your expectations.

Maybe all the pearl clutching could help build up enough girth on those dainty wrists.
dP

Bravo!

Originally Posted by scurfa

Believe me the thickness is not a problem, you need to see it, it’s beautiful




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The more I'm seeing it, the more I'm liking it. Seems like we have a winner here

[scurfa]

Originally Posted by minute_man

Bravo!





The more I'm seeing it, the more I'm liking it. Seems like we have a winner here

It has the look of the vintage explorer and the new crown goes really well


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