Best line/lie/story/excuse for your AD.

[Daedalus888]

I'm UK based and have been on the list at the local RB for 2 years plus for a SD43 which at the time of initial inquiry was going to be 18months.
I've played the game calling in every 4 months or so (covid allowing) for updates and the last update was that they were confident that they could get a watch sometime this year.
Anyway at my last visit whilst collecting another Rolex which he'd been any for service I mentioned to the SA how frustrating it was that several UK grey dealers had 2022 unworn SD43 available, he said that he understood fully but was I ware that most of the UK grey stock came from India and Italy where Rolex aren't as popular....!!!
Any other stories to share?

[Hemdog]

Why don’t you just buy a grey market seadweller? They’re not that much about list.

[Daedalus888]

not really the point of the post... And I have recently, I'm just going along with for the fun of it now.

Sorry... just noticed a typo in the original title, should read From you AD, can't seem to be able to amend this?

[watchmaker]

This highlights a fundamental misunderstanding of the difference between “grey market” and “reseller”.

100% of all grey market Rolex watches for sale in the UK originate from outside of the UK.

That’s not to say that it’s true that most come from India or Italy. Have no way to verify that.

Most Rolex watches for sale on the resale market in the UK are flipped by the customer who purchased them.

Despite the term “grey” being ubiquitous, they should really be referred to as used/secondhand watches.

That’s a long way of saying what your AD told you is not necessarily a lie.

[harvey]

…Rolex is popular in India, like in every other country. 4 years ago I visited and there was only half a dozen DJs in one AD…

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=595985

[Chester01]

I don’t give my AD a line and don’t beg people to take my money. I’m broadly into watches and so there are plenty of great brands that’s offer much. I wasn’t born yesterday and not going to be duped by market sleight of hand and don’t have a need to get the latest and greatest to post on the instabook for the ego boost. In short it’s a game I don’t and won’t play and the fact that one has to play is just a reminder about how Rolex is just a watch now associated with status and hey look what I have been able to source and the history all but faded into the background against tue back drop of a chorus of is it safe posts, meanwhile the fact that these watches were worn in the military faded into the background.

[Adam84]

Ive always found that being open and honest is the best policy...even to the point of the old question 'is this for a special occasion or needed by a certain date'...i could have said its for a special birthday, but no....just replied its because i like collecting watches and have always wanted one.

This may or may work against me, but im a cr4p liar so theres no point in trying LOL!

Tbh if ive got to lie, cheat or beg my way to get something, then i will find another place to take my business.

Fortunately theyre really nice folks at my local AD so hopefully that trust runs both ways. Time will tell!

[Danny83]

Buy grey and sell if you ever get “the call” small premium on that watch

[Shaitan]

When I look at all guarantee cards of my grey watches - there are mainly Arabic names. No Italians or Indians. Got two from England as well. Not sure where this Italy/India thing comes from.


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[brandrea]

Originally Posted by watchmaker

This highlights a fundamental misunderstanding of the difference between “grey market” and “reseller”.

100% of all grey market Rolex watches for sale in the UK originate from outside of the UK.

That’s not to say that it’s true that most come from India or Italy. Have no way to verify that.

Most Rolex watches for sale on the resale market in the UK are flipped by the customer who purchased them.

Despite the term “grey” being ubiquitous, they should really be referred to as used/secondhand watches.

That’s a long way of saying what your AD told you is not necessarily a lie.

Always great to hear you chime in Scott

[beshannon]

Originally Posted by Daedalus888

I'm UK based and have been on the list at the local RB for 2 years plus for a SD43 which at the time of initial inquiry was going to be 18months.
I've played the game calling in every 4 months or so (covid allowing) for updates and the last update was that they were confident that they could get a watch sometime this year.
Anyway at my last visit whilst collecting another Rolex which he'd been any for service I mentioned to the SA how frustrating it was that several UK grey dealers had 2022 unworn SD43 available, he said that he understood fully but was I ware that most of the UK grey stock came from India and Italy where Rolex aren't as popular....!!!
Any other stories to share?

Two years you are hoping to get a watch?

[RHJ]

Coming from India or Italy because not so popular there is really a stupid explanation!
Try to get a Rolex from AD in Italy..

[Calatrava r]

I doubt used watches from resellers in the UK come anywhere but from people in the UK. Rolex is popular everywhere and with the aftermarket premium rising more and more buyers are selling for the quick profit to be made. But the used watch market is deceiving as to size and scope. Used watch dealers have a few pieces of hard-to-get models and everyone thinks all Rolex watches are sold "grey" because they cannot get one from an AD. But Rolex makes a million watches a year, all first sold through ADs, and very few of the production is re-sold quickly for a profit. Watches on-line are just far more visible.

[beshannon]

Originally Posted by RHJ

Coming from India or Italy because not so popular there is really a stupid explanation!
Try to get a Rolex from AD in Italy..

AD's make stuff up when they don't want to talk to you. I would not do business with someone like that.

[macrowatch]

I just got back from the meta verse. Didn’t see any Rolex’es there. Must not be popular.

[Calatrava r]

Originally Posted by Daedalus888

I'm UK based and have been on the list at the local RB for 2 years plus for a SD43 which at the time of initial inquiry was going to be 18months.
I've played the game calling in every 4 months or so (covid allowing) for updates and the last update was that they were confident that they could get a watch sometime this year.
Anyway at my last visit whilst collecting another Rolex which he'd been any for service I mentioned to the SA how frustrating it was that several UK grey dealers had 2022 unworn SD43 available, he said that he understood fully but was I ware that most of the UK grey stock came from India and Italy where Rolex aren't as popular....!!!
Any other stories to share?

Talk about timing. See this thread trending now.
https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=850024

[DeVille]

Up until maybe 5 years ago it was not uncommon to buy a watch from a grey dealer that had originated in Asia, but this was usually because of currency fluctuations.

[enjoythemusic]

My dog ate the SeaDweller. It should 'arrive' in a day or two ;-)

Originally Posted by macrowatch

I just got back from the metaverse. Didn’t see any Rolex’es there. Must not be popular.

Well, you see, that's because if i created one it would be infringing on their intellectual property. And i, for one, respect such things. Besides, copying shows a total lack of creativity.

Of course that doesn't mean other brands may already working on... or someone could be coding up something different that is 'impossible' to create within the physical world given the minimal physical space when creating a real-world timepiece (just as 3D printing allows the creation of bits not possible using normal CNC/etc production).

Meta / VR is in its early stages anyway, and the industry still has to figure out the under 13 years young crowd (or 18 or 21). Will there be a Metaverse that adheres to Middle East religions? And what would a Meta of (for example) early Rome, the 'Old West' or dare we say 'Amsterdam' truly be?

And is there going to be a Willy Wonka Chocolate Factory?

[SpiritSoul]

Originally Posted by Daedalus888

I'm UK based and have been on the list at the local RB for 2 years plus for a SD43 which at the time of initial inquiry was going to be 18months.
I've played the game calling in every 4 months or so (covid allowing) for updates and the last update was that they were confident that they could get a watch sometime this year.
Anyway at my last visit whilst collecting another Rolex which he'd been any for service I mentioned to the SA how frustrating it was that several UK grey dealers had 2022 unworn SD43 available, he said that he understood fully but was I ware that most of the UK grey stock came from India and Italy where Rolex aren't as popular....!!!
Any other stories to share?

That story is nonsense.... India has no stock, same goes for Italy.... it's UK AD's selling off to YouTube Flippers and Watch trade stores directly.

[saltyandwet]

There's no sense in lying or coming up with a "good story". The AD's have heard of everything. Like I always tell my friends, I only lie to get one thing and one thing only. And I only tell those lies to women.

[Rado63]

You say you have been on the list at a "local RB." An "RB" is a Rolex boutique that only sells Rolex. If they don't have the watch then you either have too many people in front of you who have asked for that watch, or they sell to clients with greater spend history. In the 2 years plus you have been asking for the 126600 did the RB off any different references to you?

[TswaneNguni]

Originally Posted by Daedalus888

..., he said that he understood fully but was I ware that most of the UK grey stock came from India and Italy where Rolex aren't as popular....!!!

Shame man,I guess he doesnt get out of the UK much ..

[Vesper Lynd]

Stories to keep you awake at night. Nothing new.

[gnardex]

Rolex? What’s Rolex?

[RoRoRo]

India has 3rd highest amount of billionaires. I’m sure there’s a few Rolex lovers in that category and then the millionaires “below”. Then the middle class “below”. Figuratively speaking

[amh]

I usually get told "Oh you want a BLNR? We should have that in about 3-6 months, we'll let you know"

[Cauhauna]

your AD is jerking your chain

People occasionally, even in today's market, can walk in and buy an SD43. I saw a thread on it recently.

I recently referred a friend to my AD who wanted an SD for a milestone birthday; AD produced it in a month.

To not get a call for a SD43 in two years time means they do not value you as a client.

Find a new AD, imo.

[SamArj]

Originally Posted by Daedalus888

I'm UK based and have been on the list at the local RB for 2 years plus for a SD43 which at the time of initial inquiry was going to be 18months.
I've played the game calling in every 4 months or so (covid allowing) for updates and the last update was that they were confident that they could get a watch sometime this year.
Anyway at my last visit whilst collecting another Rolex which he'd been any for service I mentioned to the SA how frustrating it was that several UK grey dealers had 2022 unworn SD43 available, he said that he understood fully but was I ware that most of the UK grey stock came from India and Italy where Rolex aren't as popular....!!!
Any other stories to share?

2 years for a SD43??

[TimepieceRPP]

Not sure if your AD is WoS, if so, forget it and move to another AD if you can. They just focus on your purchase history and spending power.

[Nairn1980]

Originally Posted by Daedalus888

I'm UK based and have been on the list at the local RB for 2 years plus for a SD43 which at the time of initial inquiry was going to be 18months.
I've played the game calling in every 4 months or so (covid allowing) for updates and the last update was that they were confident that they could get a watch sometime this year.
Anyway at my last visit whilst collecting another Rolex which he'd been any for service I mentioned to the SA how frustrating it was that several UK grey dealers had 2022 unworn SD43 available, he said that he understood fully but was I ware that most of the UK grey stock came from India and Italy where Rolex aren't as popular....!!!
Any other stories to share?

I’d forget it and move on