Pepsi GMT question

[Duke10]

So the older GMT 16710 model really speaks to me. The color, size and style of numbers on the bezel is just perfect. I am one who typically likes to buy new and from an AD for a number of reasons. So the GMT Tudor seemed to be a viable option with getting a brand new watch, warranty and has the color and look of the 5 digit gmt. Lots of options and directions to go in this hobby. I guess I am one who like quality over quantity idea and hope to limit regrettable purchases. The premium for the 16710 is a bit of a turn off as well.

Pull the trigger on a new Tudor? Or bite the bullet and try and find a 16710?

Will the Tudor still be a viable piece in 10 plus years?

So many cool watches and I only want one of each…….

[JP.]

16710 was my second Rolex purchase back in the day. Still in my collection after 14 years. I don't wear it as much as I wear my 16610 but it's a great watch. Highly recommended.

If you want to know some basics about this model, feel free to read my blog entry.

https://luxurywatches635.wordpress.c...ster-ii-16710/

[BDII]

The Tudor is just too big and thick for me. If you don’t mind the size, I’d say go for it.

I have 7.5 inch wrist, but the 41 Tudor stuff just wears too massive for me to enjoy. A bit top heavy too.

[Turbo Racer]

Originally Posted by JP.

16710 was my second Rolex purchase back in the day. Still in my collection after 14 years. I don't wear it as much as I wear my 16610 but it's a great watch. Highly recommended.

If you want to know some basics about this model, feel free to read my blog entry.

https://luxurywatches635.wordpress.c...ster-ii-16710/

Excellent perspective. Thanks for the blog. I also have a 16710 coke from 2004. I think it’s a lovely watch and it wears well on my wrist. It all depends on what you value and aesthetics are very personal. I don’t know much about the Tudor, but with respect to keeping the watch for 10 years, I believe you will see the 16710 to continue to have a strong following and most likely be worth much more than you paid for it to boot. Perhaps most important to me is that a number of these bezels have very interesting patinas. Some look brand new (which is the look I went for), while others have a nice faded look. I think you can’t go wrong with this version. Good luck with your search!

[Tools]

Originally Posted by Duke10

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Pull the trigger on a new Tudor? Or bite the bullet and try and find a 16710?

Will the Tudor still be a viable piece in 10 plus years?

So many cool watches and I only want one of each…….

Tudor isn't going anywhere any time soon.

[JC316]

Originally Posted by Duke10

So the older GMT 16710 model really speaks to me. The color, size and style of numbers on the bezel is just perfect. I am one who typically likes to buy new and from an AD for a number of reasons. So the GMT Tudor seemed to be a viable option with getting a brand new watch, warranty and has the color and look of the 5 digit gmt. Lots of options and directions to go in this hobby. I guess I am one who like quality over quantity idea and hope to limit regrettable purchases. The premium for the 16710 is a bit of a turn off as well.



Pull the trigger on a new Tudor? Or bite the bullet and try and find a 16710?



Will the Tudor still be a viable piece in 10 plus years?



So many cool watches and I only want one of each…….

I think the color and style are similar enough and will scratch the itch BUT only if the size doesn't bother you.

5 year warranty, newer movement, increased power reserve, more water resistance. Not too much to complain about in my opinion.

Will it be a viable piece in 10 years? Only if you think it is. I can't see why it wouldn't be.

[brandrea]

I’m looking at a 16710 right now too OP …. As with most things Rolex, I wish I had done it 5 years ago

[underpar]

If you buy the Tudor you will find yourself still wanting the 16710. Buy what you really want, don't settle. Life is short, enjoy it.

[minute_man]

The Tudor GMT is a valid choice for someone who wants the 16710 look, without the risks and worries of buying pre-owned.
It is also, arguably, a more technologically up to date piece.
Being easier on the bank is yet another plus.

But

It is indeed a bigger, thicker watch with substantial wrist presence which, for some, is not as elegant as the 16710.

If you generally like the red/blue look and Rolex DNA and wouldn't mind the shield instead of the crown on the dial, then by all means go for it. I did.

If it is the 16710 that you really want, then DO NOT settle for the BB or anything else; keep hunting for the right example

[J_1964]

A 16710 is my Daily Wear. I Love It. More subtle, under the radar, infrequently noticed. Highly Recommended.

[Oxfordian]

Originally Posted by Duke10

So the older GMT 16710 model really speaks to me. The color, size and style of numbers on the bezel is just perfect. I am one who typically likes to buy new and from an AD for a number of reasons. So the GMT Tudor seemed to be a viable option with getting a brand new watch, warranty and has the color and look of the 5 digit gmt. Lots of options and directions to go in this hobby. I guess I am one who like quality over quantity idea and hope to limit regrettable purchases. The premium for the 16710 is a bit of a turn off as well.

Pull the trigger on a new Tudor? Or bite the bullet and try and find a 16710?

Will the Tudor still be a viable piece in 10 plus years?

So many cool watches and I only want one of each…….

My question to you is this, which watch do you really want to see on your wrist, the answer to that is the watch you want, buy that watch.

[Duke10]

Originally Posted by Oxfordian

My question to you is this, which watch do you really want to see on your wrist, the answer to that is the watch you want, buy that watch.

I need to try on the Tudor before going any further. Sounds like that will answer for me a lot of questions.

While I find the patina cool, I’d prefer it to stay looking fresh.

[kieselguhr]

If buying new, me personally would prefer the Tudor GMT to a 5 digit Pepsi. I say this despite admiring and occasionally wearing my father’s 16700 Coke.

The Tudor GMT has the advantage of having modern construction, modern movement architecture, a 5 year guarantee, additional water resistance, and a larger dial diameter for added visibility. All of this at less than 1/3 the price of a used 16710 in the current market.

But if brand matters to you, by all means get the Rolex. In which case, I would rather get a 126710 BLRO instead of the 5 digit.

[ROlesorusLEX]

Originally Posted by brandrea

I’m looking at a 16710 right now too OP …. As with most things Rolex, I wish I had done it 5 years ago

It seems like I'm seeing a ton of people suddenly interested in this watch on here. I'm looking for one myself. I've seen you mention this in other related threads as well.

I wonder if this reference is taking off, or just bias since I'm looking?

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[Duke10]

Originally Posted by kieselguhr

If buying new, me personally would prefer the Tudor GMT to a 5 digit Pepsi. I say this despite admiring and occasionally wearing my father’s 16700 Coke.

The Tudor GMT has the advantage of having modern construction, modern movement architecture, a 5 year guarantee, additional water resistance, and a larger dial diameter for added visibility. All of this at less than 1/3 the price of a used 16710 in the current market.

But if brand matters to you, by all means get the Rolex. In which case, I would rather get a 126710 BLRO instead of the 5 digit.

Agree with this. Wish I could get my hands on them. Gonna try to stop by a Tudor AD in Dallas area on Wednesday. Don’t know anywhere would have a 5 digit to check out lol

[Greglaw]

I have had both...Tudor is very nice, too bulky for me, and I have 7.5 inch wrists...I really like Tudor, but, would go with the 16710. It isn’t based on brand or status-as I have a vintage 1970 JDM Seiko speed timer, a speedmaster broad arrow replica from 1997, and a CWC SAS pvd quartz and CWC hand wound chrono pilot watch in my collection at the moment-I just like it more, and you can swap inserts-3 plus options, obviously. I will be adding either a 1675 or 16710 in the near future and a sub 4 or 5 digit when prices settle a bit. If they don’t, I will have to bite the bullet, but, I like the option of black/red insert, blue/red insert and all black to interchange, it is like 3 watches in one. And if you add a jubilee bracelet, it is like 6 watches in 1.

[Benzsiam]

Always go for the first choice, don't settle for the second choice.

[Santiago32]

Go with what you love and it sounds like you want a real Pepsi.

[mountainjogger]

Forget the issue of buying new vs. pre-owned and ask yourself which you like better. Then, if can can afford it, buy it.

[Chester01]

It is frustrating, the gmt was likely produced in higher numbers than the submariner as there are 3 different bezel configurations and 2 bracelet configuration and tons out there are the prices are crazy. Unlike the current models that are released at a slow rate and snapped up as they are released there is a giant pot of availability with them. I mean Rolex prices are crazy, but the massive increase in the 5 digit gmt is untethered from reality, but the heart wants what the heart wants.

[underpar]

I had the Tudor GMT it is thick and although it wasn't too big for my 7.5 wrist, it never sat well on my wrist. The thickness and weight always makes it lean to one side of the wrist. I notice it in a lot of others wrist shots as well.

The only way I could get it to sit flat on my wrist was to wear it too tight which I hate.

Then the date wheel issue happened so I got rid of it.

[mountainjogger]

Originally Posted by Chester01

It is frustrating, the gmt was likely produced in higher numbers than the submariner

Not disputing this, but how do we know?

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by ROlesorusLEX

It seems like I'm seeing a ton of people suddenly interested in this watch on here. I'm looking for one myself. I've seen you mention this in other related threads as well.

I wonder if this reference is taking off, or just bias since I'm looking?

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I've always had an interest in this one, but ideally I'd like to be able to handle one before buying. Tough to see one in these parts.

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[Chester01]

Originally Posted by mountainjogger

Not disputing this, but how do we know?

I’m using pure reason as I don’t have figures but can also recall seeing more of them in the AD cases as well back in the early to mid 90’s.


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[28mm]

Just saw this thread as I'm headed out to dinner.

Can't beat a 16710..Owned since 2005 and just got a Jubilee as well as the other bezels. Always wanted them and probably will never change the bezel lol.

My favorite daily for long periods of time.

[Duke10]

The other thing is if I go the Tudor route, not only will I get a brand new watch, but I can add the speedmaster (sapphire) and still come in under the 16710. With the extra scratch I’m going to put it toward a sea dweller or new sub. Whichever my AD gets first. Thanks all for your input! Hope y’all have a blessed Memorial Day with your loved ones!

[B2 Stealth]

I bought a Tudor as a placeholder until I was able to purchase a Rolex GMT. I am a huge mammal but the Tudor GMT is a large, thick watch. Once I acquired my first, then second and now third Rolex GMT I sold my Tudor. Even though I wear all new ceramic GMTs the 16710 is a spectacular watch and will be next in my collection.

[inadeje]

Originally Posted by Duke10

The other thing is if I go the Tudor route, not only will I get a brand new watch, but I can add the speedmaster (sapphire) and still come in under the 16710. With the extra scratch I’m going to put it toward a sea dweller or new sub. Whichever my AD gets first. Thanks all for your input! Hope y’all have a blessed Memorial Day with your loved ones!

I appreciate your sane logic and financial wherewithal. However, this isn’t a rational hobby and neither are we. No matter what perfectly logical reasoning you apply to this, if your heart was originally fluttering for a Pepsi 16710, sooner rather than later, Tudor on your wrist or another non Rolex, it won’t scratch your itch. It’s just the way it is, coming from someone who also tried applying abstract logic but failed.

[francoamerican]

All things considered, the 16710 is as close to a perfect watch as exists.

[28mm]

Originally Posted by Duke10

The other thing is if I go the Tudor route, not only will I get a brand new watch, but I can add the speedmaster (sapphire) and still come in under the 16710. With the extra scratch I’m going to put it toward a sea dweller or new sub. Whichever my AD gets first. Thanks all for your input! Hope y’all have a blessed Memorial Day with your loved ones!

You too!

You can't go wrong with any of your choices but obviously I am partial to the 16710!