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Lol-x · 4 August 2009, 12:59 PM

I just wondered if anyone had knowledge on this issue.

Evidently a lot of vintage models that were sold by Bucherer in Switzerland were not issued with punched papers but rather have simply a hand written Rolex Warranty Certificate?

Is this so?

One has to be wary about a re-birthing of watches by some buying open certificates off e-bay.

sleddog · 4 August 2009, 01:20 PM

Not sure on that Lol-x....

But I do want say IMO that it should be illegal to buy and sell rolex papers on any site!! Everytime I see these it makes me cringe as Im sure the person who purchases this will use it to deceive....If they are punched papers with a serial number,why buy one if it doesn't match your watch(for a legit buyer to complete a set)....
Just my

Rob.

springer · 4 August 2009, 02:16 PM

Hello Steve. I've seen several through the years. After all, it was just a warranty paper, and I'm sure some ended up lost or misplaced by the dealers, clerks and sales people - to be replaced by handwritten warranty papers. They were obviously available to dealers, as they can still be found today. The supply is starting to dry up, which makes it "ripe" for the counterfeiters to practice their trade.

Today, as the older watches have become collector pieces, the more accessories you have, the higher the value realized for the watch. It's the collectors that have placed the premium on vintage watches with warranty papers.

dkazaz · 4 August 2009, 07:05 PM

I actually have some of those too with my old '69 Datejust (bought by my father from Bucherer in Zurich back in the day).

Lol-x · 4 August 2009, 11:54 PM

I'm talking about a watch purchased from Bucherer in 1980.

I would have thought that even if there were not punched papers that there would at least have been an AD stamp on the 'unpunched' papers by way of authentication

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Lol-x Facilitator Join Date: Nov 2005 Real Name: Steve Location: Omnipresent Posts: 33,589	Bucherer Punched Papers? I just wondered if anyone had knowledge on this issue. Evidently a lot of vintage models that were sold by Bucherer in Switzerland were not issued with punched papers but rather have simply a hand written Rolex Warranty Certificate? Is this so? One has to be wary about a re-birthing of watches by some buying open certificates off e-bay. __________________ *Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.* ~Abraham Lincoln Nothing compares to the simple pleasure of a bike ride. ~John F. Kennedy ROLEXploitation - yeah I'm a victim

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sleddog TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Rob Location: Nearby. Posts: 24,931	Not sure on that Lol-x.... But I do want say IMO that it should be illegal to buy and sell rolex papers on any site!! Everytime I see these it makes me cringe as Im sure the person who purchases this will use it to deceive....If they are punched papers with a serial number,why buy one if it doesn't match your watch(for a legit buyer to complete a set).... Just my Rob. __________________ He who wears a Rolex is always on time, even when late!! TRF's "After Dark" Bar & Nightclub Patron-Founding Member..

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springer 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,319	Hello Steve. I've seen several through the years. After all, it was just a warranty paper, and I'm sure some ended up lost or misplaced by the dealers, clerks and sales people - to be replaced by handwritten warranty papers. They were obviously available to dealers, as they can still be found today. The supply is starting to dry up, which makes it "ripe" for the counterfeiters to practice their trade. Today, as the older watches have become collector pieces, the more accessories you have, the higher the value realized for the watch. It's the collectors that have placed the premium on vintage watches with warranty papers. __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

4 August 2009, 11:54 PM	#5
Lol-x Facilitator Join Date: Nov 2005 Real Name: Steve Location: Omnipresent Posts: 33,589	I'm talking about a watch purchased from Bucherer in 1980. I would have thought that even if there were not punched papers that there would at least have been an AD stamp on the 'unpunched' papers by way of authentication __________________ *Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.* ~Abraham Lincoln Nothing compares to the simple pleasure of a bike ride. ~John F. Kennedy ROLEXploitation - yeah I'm a victim

4 August 2009, 07:05 PM	#4
dkazaz "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Athens / London Watch: SD 16600 / DJ 1601 Posts: 81	I actually have some of those too with my old '69 Datejust (bought by my father from Bucherer in Zurich back in the day).

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