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Flipmarine2k · 4 March 2023, 11:30 AM

Hey guys,

I was wondering if anyone has any experience buying used/grey in Hong Kong and Japan. Can i expect better pricing than the US. I'll be going to Hong Kong in May for 2 weeks to visit the wifes family and taking a trip to Japan for a week.
I'm mainly interested in old 5 digit GMT master II, and Kermit.
and possibly a white gold GMT Pepsi. blue or black dial.
Thanks in Advance.

beshannon · 4 March 2023, 12:03 PM

Welcome to the forum

Flipmarine2k · 4 March 2023, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beshannon

Welcome to the forum

Thanks!

Boeing777 · 4 March 2023, 03:10 PM

Grey market dealers in Asia tie all their sales to international prices. In HK, you really would really want too be on your A game negotiating with a reseller as the knowledge difference is huge. You'll find windows and cabinets jammed with watches with short hand notations on condition, warranty, price etc and you need to decipher what those conditions mean and how much you should pay. Not a game for the faint hearted. I bought with the help of a local but wouldn't do it solo. You have to find a dealer you trust and many of them have changed since Covid.

MinMay · 5 March 2023, 03:01 AM

Be careful for fakes. Buy the seller.

ninjin · 5 March 2023, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by MinMay

Be careful for fakes. Buy the seller.

you won't find fakes in the bricks and mortar grey dealers....

With the older watches you just got to be careful you know what you are looking for, as over the years many parts do get fitted that maybe incorrect for the reference.

8bc8 · 5 March 2023, 03:35 AM

I’d always recommend vintagerolex_quark for 5 digit GMTs

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Meyrin · 5 March 2023, 04:34 AM

I can´t comment on Hong Kong, but I have been to Japan on extended business trips (always wearing my old 14060 Sub!). Here´s a link to Austin Daniels, an extremely knowledgeable American Rolex expert, a worth-watching YouTuber who´s been living in Japan for years. Many of the clips on his channel ("Watch Syposium") take you round the watch districts in Tokyo and other Japanese cities, talking about the various dealers, the prices and pitfalls of used Rolexes, where to go and so on. All very interesting imho...might help you!

https://www.youtube.com/@watchsymposium/videos

You mention Osaka. Osaka Castle is quite spectacular, and there are many beautiful temples and pagodas well worth visiting, if that sort of thing interests you! Do enjoy your trip and good luck...5-digit is the way to go!

Flipmarine2k · 9 March 2023, 10:47 AM

Thank you all for the info. Looking forward to the trip! I ended up acquiring a 16710 yesterday! Traded my 116900 Airking + Cash.

4 March 2023, 11:30 AM	#1
Flipmarine2k "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: SoCal Posts: 127	Buying used/Grey in Hong Kong/ Tokyo/Osaka Hey guys, I was wondering if anyone has any experience buying used/grey in Hong Kong and Japan. Can i expect better pricing than the US. I'll be going to Hong Kong in May for 2 weeks to visit the wifes family and taking a trip to Japan for a week. I'm mainly interested in old 5 digit GMT master II, and Kermit. and possibly a white gold GMT Pepsi. blue or black dial. Thanks in Advance. __________________ 👑: 16750 GMT Master, 16710-GMT Master II, 116710- Batman 16622- Yachtmaster, 18038 Day-Date, 116000 OP Red Grape, 126000 OP Green, 16570 Explorer II Polar, 216570 Exp II- Black, 124060 Submariner, 16610LV Kermit, 116523 White Panda Racing Dial, 126234 DJ jubilee fluted blue motif, 326934 Blue skydweller, Omega SMPc Tokyo, speedy 1861 Sapphire. Speedy 3861 White Dial. Cartier: WSSA0037 Santos ADLC Grey, GS Red Kitana

4 March 2023, 12:03 PM	#2
beshannon "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Brian Location: Northern Virginia Watch: One of Not Many Posts: 17,892	Welcome to the forum __________________ IWC Portugieser 7 Day, Omega Seamaster SMP300m, Vacheron Constantin Traditionnelle Complete Calendar, Glashutte PanoInverse, Glashutte SeaQ Panorama Date, Omega Aqua Terra 150, Omega CK 859, Omega Speedmaster 3861 Moonwatch, Breitling Superocean Steelfish, JLC Atmos Transparent Clock

9 March 2023, 10:47 AM	#9
Flipmarine2k "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: SoCal Posts: 127	Thank you all for the info. Looking forward to the trip! I ended up acquiring a 16710 yesterday! Traded my 116900 Airking + Cash. __________________ 👑: 16750 GMT Master, 16710-GMT Master II, 116710- Batman 16622- Yachtmaster, 18038 Day-Date, 116000 OP Red Grape, 126000 OP Green, 16570 Explorer II Polar, 216570 Exp II- Black, 124060 Submariner, 16610LV Kermit, 116523 White Panda Racing Dial, 126234 DJ jubilee fluted blue motif, 326934 Blue skydweller, Omega SMPc Tokyo, speedy 1861 Sapphire. Speedy 3861 White Dial. Cartier: WSSA0037 Santos ADLC Grey, GS Red Kitana

4 March 2023, 03:10 PM	#4
Boeing777 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2023 Location: SE Asia Posts: 10	Grey market dealers in Asia tie all their sales to international prices. In HK, you really would really want too be on your A game negotiating with a reseller as the knowledge difference is huge. You'll find windows and cabinets jammed with watches with short hand notations on condition, warranty, price etc and you need to decipher what those conditions mean and how much you should pay. Not a game for the faint hearted. I bought with the help of a local but wouldn't do it solo. You have to find a dealer you trust and many of them have changed since Covid.

5 March 2023, 03:01 AM	#5
MinMay Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: United States Posts: 2,410	Be careful for fakes. Buy the seller.

5 March 2023, 03:35 AM	#7
8bc8 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 67	I’d always recommend vintagerolex_quark for 5 digit GMTs Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

5 March 2023, 04:34 AM	#8
Meyrin "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Real Name: Ian Location: Hamburg Watch: Sub 14060 Posts: 1,163	I can´t comment on Hong Kong, but I have been to Japan on extended business trips (always wearing my old 14060 Sub!). Here´s a link to Austin Daniels, an extremely knowledgeable American Rolex expert, a worth-watching YouTuber who´s been living in Japan for years. Many of the clips on his channel ("Watch Syposium") take you round the watch districts in Tokyo and other Japanese cities, talking about the various dealers, the prices and pitfalls of used Rolexes, where to go and so on. All very interesting imho...might help you! https://www.youtube.com/@watchsymposium/videos You mention Osaka. Osaka Castle is quite spectacular, and there are many beautiful temples and pagodas well worth visiting, if that sort of thing interests you! Do enjoy your trip and good luck...5-digit is the way to go!

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