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B0ndJamesBond · 23 March 2023, 06:39 AM

What is the general consensus on the 16710 Pepsi vs a modern 126710 on Jubilee? Don't think they both make sense in a collection but just curious to get other people's opinions.

Stevec14 · 23 March 2023, 06:42 AM

I actually think they can coexist. They are very different watches close up. Me, I am biased and pick the 5 digit for the ability to have 6 watches in 1, but I’d for sure have a 6 digit too.

tifosi · 23 March 2023, 06:43 AM

It's very subjective...if I was going to buy a Pepsi it'd be an aluminum bezel model for sure.

JParm · 23 March 2023, 06:49 AM

I've had the 16710 for 12 years and just picked up the BLNR a couple weeks back.

If I HAD to pick one, it would be the 16710. Just as robust but I'd say a bit sportier than the new models, which are more like jewelry to me (especially with the jubilee bracelet, which my BLNR is on). While you can beat up the new models just as well, I'd say the 5-digits feel more ready for the job in that regard.

The old 5-digits have a more rugged look and feel to them, in my opinion. The shine on the ceramic bezel probably has something to do with it.

Edit: Forgot the mention that I've had the Hulk for 6 years and that my answer still remains the 16710.

_Watch_Guru_ · 23 March 2023, 06:53 AM

Well Mr. Bond, make sure those watches are shaken not stirred.

Dezorra · 23 March 2023, 07:00 AM

If you really love the GMT, as I do, then I think it makes sense to have both the previous, more traditional version, and the current ceramic one. They are dramatically different watches.

I have both, and while I enjoy having the new six digit version, I very rarely wear it. I’m always going for my 5-digit 16750. The ratio in which I wear the two is probably 50:1.

I like how it’s so comfortable it disappears on my wrist, it is an attractive watch but doesn’t look like it’s screaming for attention, and mine is banged up enough that I can do any number of recreational or work activities and not take it off. It’s a true daily companion you can wear every day, doing anything.

The red and blue is also infinitely better on the aluminum bezels than the deep purple and deep pink of the ceramic. I was immediately underwhelmed by the colors of the ceramic insert; I’m still disappointed by them.

My ceramic Pepsi is a spectacular watch, and one of the “must haves“ in my collection, I but it’s just too pretty for me to wear in most situations, attracts attention (the wrong kind) and doesn’t seem durable even though it probably is.

I like my BLRO but it’s my safe queen, whereas my 5-digit does everything with me. I love that watch.

Stan Cooper · 23 March 2023, 07:21 AM

I'm a big 16710 fan, personally. It has easily changeable bezel inserts, bulletproof 3185 or 3186 caliber movement, and to me the 16710 case is much more attractive than the maxi case on the 126710. Just my $.02.

dafuture · 23 March 2023, 07:29 AM

I'd go modern personally between those two. That being said, if I was getting a GMT it would be a 1675. Personal grail of mine for years.

enjoythemusic · 23 March 2023, 07:39 AM

i'm always a fan of "why not get them all". :)

Snowballs · 23 March 2023, 07:41 AM

Love the 4 (1675) and 5 digit (16700) GMT.

Aluminum bezel, more heart, not jewellery.

YMMV

Jackie Daytona · 23 March 2023, 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snowballs

Love the 4 (1675) and 5 digit (16700) GMT.

Aluminum bezel, more heart, not jewellery.

YMMV

I tend to generally feel the same

HKtoter · 23 March 2023, 07:48 AM

You can’t go wrong with any Rolex that came with lug holes

Driver8 · 23 March 2023, 08:00 AM

I've said before on here that for a BLRO I'd chose a 5 digit 16710 every time over a 126710BLRO. The 16710 got the bezel colours right in a way the 126710 could only dream of.

For a 6 digit I prefer the BLNR as it's an original colourway for the 6 digit, and those colours are perfectly done.

yetione · 23 March 2023, 08:05 AM

I dont own either, but I've had the chance to handle both at the same time and I came away impressed with the modern reference. Not that the aluminum bezel doesn't have it's Pros, but i think coming in with fresh eyes and seeing both for the first time at the same time, I'd take home the modern reference.

joli160 · 23 March 2023, 08:22 AM

I much prefer the ceramic, feels much more substantial and love the bling

Tools · 23 March 2023, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B0ndJamesBond

What is the general consensus on the 16710 Pepsi vs a modern 126710 on Jubilee? Don't think they both make sense in a collection but just curious to get other people's opinions.

What is your definition of a collection?

Brenngun · 23 March 2023, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tifosi

It's very subjective...if I was going to buy a Pepsi it'd be an aluminum bezel model for sure.

This!!!

Old Expat Beast · 23 March 2023, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snowballs

Love the 4 (1675) and 5 digit (16700) GMT.

Aluminum bezel, more heart, not jewellery.

YMMV

x2.

Ceramic Pepsi insert looks like plastic to me.

1665fan · 23 March 2023, 09:42 AM

16710

Giovannibravo · 23 March 2023, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B0ndJamesBond

What is the general consensus on the 16710 Pepsi vs a modern 126710 on Jubilee? Don't think they both make sense in a collection but just curious to get other people's opinions.

I think there is the argument for any 5 and 6 digits pairs in a collection. The 5 digits have a "vintage" look when compared to the bulky and shiny 6 digit references.

Macnavara · 23 March 2023, 10:11 AM

Ive got both but prefer the 16710 by a country mile

huba01 · 23 March 2023, 10:43 AM

Ive got both too and agree, 16710 is by far my preferred pepsi

Dhiren · 23 March 2023, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enjoythemusic

i'm always a fan of "why not get them all". :)

I agree

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GMTmatt · 23 March 2023, 11:34 AM

It’s like asking if a 1993 Corvette can exist with a 2023 Corvette. The answer is yes for both but you don’t need the mustache for the GMT’s.

Duke10 · 23 March 2023, 11:48 AM

Old school all day

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Area 51 · 23 March 2023, 11:56 AM

The five digit feels very different to me on the wrist. Bracelet less substantial and so on. If I was to have two, I'd get a five digit with the full series of swappable bezels to mix it up.

Cordyceps · 23 March 2023, 12:24 PM

The older models have a different charm. A bit smaller, a bit lighter and with the great addition of being able to do bezel swaps. Makes them very versatile. If you like a more solid piece, go 6-digit. Both together could work.

hutch300 · 23 March 2023, 01:33 PM

I’d take a 16750 or 16710 before the modern reference. The case and charm mean more to me than the bling. I suppose having both is an option but it would depend on your collection.

I own a 16750 for reference.

CFR · 23 March 2023, 01:43 PM

I started liking the 16710 a lot more when I swapped the Oyster for a Super Jubilee (for a change of pace -- I have Oysters on other models).

Polyesterpig · 23 March 2023, 01:45 PM

The great Pepsi debate. I thought you were going with Rolex Pepsi vs Coke.

23 March 2023, 06:39 AM	#1
B0ndJamesBond "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: New York City Posts: 9	The Great Pepsi Debate What is the general consensus on the 16710 Pepsi vs a modern 126710 on Jubilee? Don't think they both make sense in a collection but just curious to get other people's opinions.

23 March 2023, 06:43 AM	#3
tifosi "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Russ Location: Southern NJ Posts: 5,760	It's very subjective...if I was going to buy a Pepsi it'd be an aluminum bezel model for sure. __________________ Russ

23 March 2023, 07:00 AM	#6
Dezorra "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2022 Location: Dallas Watch: 16750 GMT “Pepsi” Posts: 61	If you really love the GMT, as I do, then I think it makes sense to have both the previous, more traditional version, and the current ceramic one. They are dramatically different watches. I have both, and while I enjoy having the new six digit version, I very rarely wear it. I’m always going for my 5-digit 16750. The ratio in which I wear the two is probably 50:1. I like how it’s so comfortable it disappears on my wrist, it is an attractive watch but doesn’t look like it’s screaming for attention, and mine is banged up enough that I can do any number of recreational or work activities and not take it off. It’s a true daily companion you can wear every day, doing anything. The red and blue is also infinitely better on the aluminum bezels than the deep purple and deep pink of the ceramic. I was immediately underwhelmed by the colors of the ceramic insert; I’m still disappointed by them. My ceramic Pepsi is a spectacular watch, and one of the “must haves“ in my collection, I but it’s just too pretty for me to wear in most situations, attracts attention (the wrong kind) and doesn’t seem durable even though it probably is. I like my BLRO but it’s my safe queen, whereas my 5-digit does everything with me. I love that watch. __________________ 1982 GMT 16750 \| 1984 SD 16660 \| 2019 GMT 126710BLRO \| 2005 Sub 16610 \| Panerai Luminor GMT

23 March 2023, 07:21 AM	#7
Stan Cooper 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Real Name: Stan Cooper Location: Sonoma County, CA Watch: GMT-Master II Posts: 2,889	I'm a big 16710 fan, personally. It has easily changeable bezel inserts, bulletproof 3185 or 3186 caliber movement, and to me the 16710 case is much more attractive than the maxi case on the 126710. Just my $.02. __________________ ♛16710 GMT-Master II, ♛1915 Rolex WW1 Trench Watch, Zelos Thresher 500m GMT Meteorite, Zelos Swordfish 40 200m Ti Blood Moon Meteorite, Hamilton Pilot Chronograph, Ball Roadmaster Pilot GMT COSC Chronometer, Zelos Mako 300M Traveler GMT Meteorite, Seiko SSC813 quartz solar powered chronograph It's weird being the same age as old people. - Stan

23 March 2023, 07:29 AM	#8
dafuture "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: NYC Posts: 1,944	I'd go modern personally between those two. That being said, if I was getting a GMT it would be a 1675. Personal grail of mine for years. __________________ Current Rolex Submariner 126610LN \|\| Cartier Tank Americaine

23 March 2023, 06:42 AM	#2
Stevec14 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Real Name: Steve Location: U.K. Watch: 321, Snoopy 3 Posts: 4,483	I actually think they can coexist. They are very different watches close up. Me, I am biased and pick the 5 digit for the ability to have 6 watches in 1, but I’d for sure have a 6 digit too.

23 March 2023, 06:49 AM	#4
JParm 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: NorCal Watch: Yes! Posts: 6,568	I've had the 16710 for 12 years and just picked up the BLNR a couple weeks back. If I HAD to pick one, it would be the 16710. Just as robust but I'd say a bit sportier than the new models, which are more like jewelry to me (especially with the jubilee bracelet, which my BLNR is on). While you can beat up the new models just as well, I'd say the 5-digits feel more ready for the job in that regard. The old 5-digits have a more rugged look and feel to them, in my opinion. The shine on the ceramic bezel probably has something to do with it. Edit: Forgot the mention that I've had the Hulk for 6 years and that my answer still remains the 16710.

23 March 2023, 06:53 AM	#5
_Watch_Guru_ 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2022 Location: Around Posts: 113	Well Mr. Bond, make sure those watches are shaken not stirred.

23 March 2023, 07:39 AM	#9
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23 March 2023, 07:41 AM	#10
Snowballs "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2022 Location: Global in 1C Watch: 1675 Posts: 454	Love the 4 (1675) and 5 digit (16700) GMT. Aluminum bezel, more heart, not jewellery. YMMV

23 March 2023, 07:48 AM	#12
HKtoter "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Real Name: Steve Location: Roll Tide Watch: 16710 Pepsi Posts: 1,025	You can’t go wrong with any Rolex that came with lug holes __________________ LUG HOLE LOYALIST

23 March 2023, 08:00 AM	#13
Driver8 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: UK Posts: 2,874	I've said before on here that for a BLRO I'd chose a 5 digit 16710 every time over a 126710BLRO. The 16710 got the bezel colours right in a way the 126710 could only dream of. For a 6 digit I prefer the BLNR as it's an original colourway for the 6 digit, and those colours are perfectly done. __________________ Rolex - 116710BLNR : 116610LN : 116622 : 116334 : 14060M (Plus - Glashutte Original, Breitling, Omega, IWC, Tag Heuer, Doxa, Sinn, Seiko, G-Shock + micros)

23 March 2023, 08:05 AM	#14
yetione "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2022 Location: USA Posts: 137	I dont own either, but I've had the chance to handle both at the same time and I came away impressed with the modern reference. Not that the aluminum bezel doesn't have it's Pros, but i think coming in with fresh eyes and seeing both for the first time at the same time, I'd take home the modern reference.

23 March 2023, 08:22 AM	#15
joli160 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: NL Watch: Yachtmaster Posts: 14,759	I much prefer the ceramic, feels much more substantial and love the bling __________________ Day Date 18238, Yachtmaster 16622, Deepsea 116660, Submariner 116619, SkyD 326935, DJ 178271, DJ 69158, Yachtmaster 169622, GMT 116713LN, GMT 126711.

23 March 2023, 09:42 AM	#19
1665fan "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: East coast Posts: 6,660	16710

23 March 2023, 10:11 AM	#21
Macnavara "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 2,355	Ive got both but prefer the 16710 by a country mile __________________ Exp2 \| Exp1 \| BLNR \| SD43 \| DSSD \| 16710 \| Ak \| 116505 \| 116610 \| 16610 \| 16700 \| Yacht-Master \| 116710 LN \| 126710 BLRO mk1 & mk2 \| 116500LN \| 126610LN \| 126710 GRNR

23 March 2023, 10:43 AM	#22
huba01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Dubai Posts: 1,449	Ive got both too and agree, 16710 is by far my preferred pepsi

23 March 2023, 11:34 AM	#24
GMTmatt "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Real Name: Matt Location: USA Watch: 16710 Pepsi Posts: 190	It’s like asking if a 1993 Corvette can exist with a 2023 Corvette. The answer is yes for both but you don’t need the mustache for the GMT’s. __________________ Cash is king, cash flow is queen

23 March 2023, 11:48 AM	#25
Duke10 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Louisiana Watch: Rolex Sub Date Posts: 453	Old school all day Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

23 March 2023, 11:56 AM	#26
Area 51 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2023 Location: Compton Posts: 22	The five digit feels very different to me on the wrist. Bracelet less substantial and so on. If I was to have two, I'd get a five digit with the full series of swappable bezels to mix it up.

23 March 2023, 12:24 PM	#27
Cordyceps "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2023 Location: Netherlands Posts: 4	The older models have a different charm. A bit smaller, a bit lighter and with the great addition of being able to do bezel swaps. Makes them very versatile. If you like a more solid piece, go 6-digit. Both together could work.

23 March 2023, 01:33 PM	#28
hutch300 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Real Name: Jeff Location: PNW Posts: 1,482	I’d take a 16750 or 16710 before the modern reference. The case and charm mean more to me than the bling. I suppose having both is an option but it would depend on your collection. I own a 16750 for reference.

23 March 2023, 01:43 PM	#29
CFR 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: US Posts: 1,075	I started liking the 16710 a lot more when I swapped the Oyster for a Super Jubilee (for a change of pace -- I have Oysters on other models).

23 March 2023, 01:45 PM	#30
Polyesterpig "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2023 Location: California Posts: 193	The great Pepsi debate. I thought you were going with Rolex Pepsi vs Coke. __________________ Time wounds all heals - faster on motorcycles

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