Most difficult to get new WG/RG on oysterflex Daytona?

[SamArj]

Obviously I'm talking about the new model. Going by previous experience anybody have an idea about which of the PM Daytonas on Oysterflex would be most difficult to get?
As far as these goes I like all of them equally apart from the ones with diamond baguettes.

I can request one so I might as get one which is trickiest to get (if there is one) just so I can be a little bit more smug about my purchase lol.

Thanks

[SLWoodster]

maybe RG black? The yellow gold PN and pikachu dials are both very well liked. I think the pikachu trades for slightly more.

[SamArj]

Originally Posted by SLWoodster

maybe RG black? The yellow gold PN and pikachu dials are both very well liked. I think the pikachu trades for slightly more.

Thank you. I've found the pikachu model you refer to but don't know what 'PN' means.

Thanks

[SLWoodster]

PN - "Paul Newman" dial

It's just the nickname many give to this model because of the red outer markers.

Personally, I like the 116518 better. It has the red chrono hand, contrasting sub-dial hands, and step down concentric subdials. but that's getting too deep into it.

Originally Posted by SamArj

Thank you. I've found the pikachu model you refer to but don't know what 'PN' means.

Thanks

[Hulkhunter]

Why don’t you just get the one you like the most?

They all hold their value reasonably well so it shouldn’t really be an issue. Seems silly to get one just because it’s harder to get even if you prefer others.

[denmanproject]

Originally Posted by Hulkhunter

Why don’t you just get the one you like the most?

They all hold their value reasonably well so it shouldn’t really be an issue. Seems silly to get one just because it’s harder to get even if you prefer others.

This 100%

Get the one you like best

[SamArj]

Originally Posted by SLWoodster

PN - "Paul Newman" dial

It's just the nickname many give to this model because of the red outer markers.

Personally, I like the 116518 better. It has the red chrono hand, contrasting sub-dial hands, and step down concentric subdials. but that's getting too deep into it.

Of course, Paul Newman. I've heard it referred to in the past but just didn't make the connection.

[SamArj]

Originally Posted by Hulkhunter

Why don’t you just get the one you like the most?

They all hold their value reasonably well so it shouldn’t really be an issue. Seems silly to get one just because it’s harder to get even if you prefer others.

I take your point but I genuinely like all of them with the exception of the diamond ones. And to be honest I quite like those as well but I'm just not a diamonds kind of guy.

So I might as well try and get the most sought after one for the wow factor. I wouldn't buy one I didn't like just because it was sought after though.

[SamArj]

I'm surprised that yellow gold are the more sought after ones. In the UK at least yellow gold watches still hold a bit of a 1980s stigma....though that is slowly changing.

[Minoto]

I know the yellow gold with the champing dial and the small black dial is the most popular and resells well.

[Devildog]

Originally Posted by SamArj

Obviously I'm talking about the new model. Going by previous experience anybody have an idea about which of the PM Daytonas on Oysterflex would be most difficult to get?
As far as these goes I like all of them equally apart from the ones with diamond baguettes.

I can request one so I might as get one which is trickiest to get (if there is one) just so I can be a little bit more smug about my purchase lol.

Thanks

As far as I know the WG OF has been the hardest to get in the UK.

[Devildog]

Originally Posted by SamArj

I'm surprised that yellow gold are the more sought after ones. In the UK at least yellow gold watches still hold a bit of a 1980s stigma....though that is slowly changing.

Especially a YG watch nicknamed Pikachu. What the actual fu..

[samuel019]

Every metal has its non Meteorite dial that commands a premiumish on the 11 series.

YG would the Golden/Black or the Pickachu BS

WG? Hell Idk.

RG would definitely be the Chocolate or the Baguette

Obviously the Meteorite dial is king on the 11 series in any metal.

But on the new 12 series I think its waaaaay to early to predict.

[SamArj]

Originally Posted by Devildog

As far as I know the WG OF has been the hardest to get in the UK.

Hi
I was told that by the AD as well. However if you look at the grey market there are loads of 'Silver Ghosts' for sale and the premium seems less than some YG and RG models.
Thanks

[SamArj]

Originally Posted by samuel019

Every metal has its non Meteorite dial that commands a premiumish on the 11 series.

YG would the Golden/Black or the Pickachu BS

WG? Hell Idk.

RG would definitely be the Chocolate or the Baguette

Obviously the Meteorite dial is king on the 11 series in any metal.

But on the new 12 series I think its waaaaay to early to predict.

Thanks.
I know there have been subtle changes to all variants as it's a new model launch but in broad terms doesn't the 'Pikachu' still exist? ie YG, with golden main dial and black subdials. As this commanded a premium in the old model wouldn't it be fairly certain that it would do the same in the new one?

[Devildog]

Originally Posted by SamArj

Hi
I was told that by the AD as well. However if you look at the grey market there are loads of 'Silver Ghosts' for sale and the premium seems less than some YG and RG models.
Thanks

Strange isn't it

Perhaps due to popularity rather than actual supply.

[clubrcr]

Both the Paul Newman and the Pikachu dial have had subtle changes for 2023 and are no longer available. I have had both. I traded the Pikachu for the Paul Newman, as I think the PN has more personality. I really like the contrast of the red, gold and black. Recently, I have seen a small price difference on the grey market, with Pikachu being a little more expensive.

[samuel019]

Originally Posted by Devildog

Strange isn't it

Perhaps due to popularity rather than actual supply.

IIRC on the 519 there werent a ton of dial choices the last few years.

I think a whopping 2. Silver/Black and Black/diamonds. So if you're after a 519 your options are quite limited and Rolex probably made a good amount.

Which is why when you search for a 519 the Silver/Black Space Ghost is all you see.

Whereas with YG and RG the dial choices, from the 11 series, were probably in the 5-8 range.

[samuel019]

Originally Posted by SamArj

Thanks.
I know there have been subtle changes to all variants as it's a new model launch but in broad terms doesn't the 'Pikachu' still exist? ie YG, with golden main dial and black subdials. As this commanded a premium in the old model wouldn't it be fairly certain that it would do the same in the new one?

Perhaps. But being that it is still around, 116 vs 126, maybe not and people will want the newer dials not offered in the 11 series.

Regardless I'd go for whichever one I liked the most visually, call it a wrap and let the market be the market.

[Sunstreaker]

The 116519LN (e.g. the ghost) is stunning and very stealth wealth. I’d recommend that personally.

[SamArj]

Originally Posted by clubrcr

Both the Paul Newman and the Pikachu dial have had subtle changes for 2023 and are no longer available. I have had both. I traded the Pikachu for the Paul Newman, as I think the PN has more personality. I really like the contrast of the red, gold and black. Recently, I have seen a small price difference on the grey market, with Pikachu being a little more expensive.

Thanks.

[TexEd]

Originally Posted by SLWoodster

PN - "Paul Newman" dial

It's just the nickname many give to this model because of the red outer markers.

Personally, I like the 116518 better. It has the red chrono hand, contrasting sub-dial hands, and step down concentric subdials. but that's getting too deep into it.

Very striking watch!

[SamArj]

Originally Posted by samuel019

Perhaps. But being that it is still around, 116 vs 126, maybe not and people will want the newer dials not offered in the 11 series.

Regardless I'd go for whichever one I liked the most visually, call it a wrap and let the market be the market.

Thanks.
So is the only really completely new dial combination the WG, black with steel subdials ie inverse ghost? All others are just the tweaks to the dial design which is across the range.

[SamArj]

Originally Posted by samuel019

IIRC on the 519 there werent a ton of dial choices the last few years.

I think a whopping 2. Silver/Black and Black/diamonds. So if you're after a 519 your options are quite limited and Rolex probably made a good amount.

Which is why when you search for a 519 the Silver/Black Space Ghost is all you see.

Whereas with YG and RG the dial choices, from the 11 series, were probably in the 5-8 range.

Very good point. That's why when I search on Chrono in the UK there are 'loads' of Ghosts available ie 20+. However if I look under YG there are just a handful of Pikachus. YG/RG being split between so many of the then dial choices means there's less of each type....and that then means less pieces out there for sale and in turn may drive up the asking price

In other words if were buying grey I'd have a choice of 20 Ghosts but only say 5 Pikachus.

Going by that same theory the dial combo which will be rarest (for the next few years)will be the only completely new combo I can see which is WG inverse Ghost.

Reasonable hypothesis?

[usmc_k9_vet]

What’s with these nicknames? Pikachu? Silver ghost? Please make it stop.


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[SamArj]

Originally Posted by usmc_k9_vet

What’s with these nicknames? Pikachu? Silver ghost? Please make it stop.


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There's an easy way to make it stop....don't read the thread!

[samuel019]

Originally Posted by SamArj

Very good point. That's why when I search on Chrono in the UK there are 'loads' of Ghosts available ie 20+. However if I look under YG there are just a handful of Pikachus. YG/RG being split between so many of the then dial choices means there's less of each type....and that then means less pieces out there for sale and in turn may drive up the asking price

In other words if were buying grey I'd have a choice of 20 Ghosts but only say 5 Pikachus.

Going by that same theory the dial combo which will be rarest (for the next few years)will be the only completely new combo I can see which is WG inverse Ghost.

Reasonable hypothesis?

Sure. I'd say that makes sense.

[usmc_k9_vet]

Originally Posted by SamArj

There's an easy way to make it stop....don't read the thread!

Don’t read a Rolex thread on a Rolex forum where people start using obscure nicknames for different references of Rolex watches?


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[SamArj]

Originally Posted by usmc_k9_vet

Don’t read a Rolex thread on a Rolex forum where people start using obscure nicknames for different references of Rolex watches?


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Two days ago I didn't know what a 'Pikachu' was either. Since it's quicker to type that than having to type 'yellow gold Daytona on Oysterflex with champage main dial and black subdials' it doesn’t seem unreasonable to use nicknames.

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[Swiftneck]

If you aren't going to sell tomorrow, then just pick the one you like the most. Nobody knows which one who will be the most attractive when you are going to sell down the line.

For everyday wear, I would go with the wg - silver ghost. For a special watch for a collection, I would pick the YG - PN dial.

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