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dribelin · 20 August 2009, 12:48 AM

I found this watch for sale the other day and was wondering what everyone thought about it's authenticity. The serial number seems to be pretty high for a double red and I don't think the "FT" matches what would be correct even in the latest double red dials. I am definitely not even close to being able to judge authenticity accurately on vintage watches however, and would greatly appreciate any input.

greekbum · 20 August 2009, 03:03 AM

Who made it?

djhiram · 20 August 2009, 03:04 AM

Is it just me or does that vintage not look too vintage?

JPersat · 20 August 2009, 03:09 AM

Definately looks off to me. Did you buy it, thinking about it, or just run across it?

s1m0n · 20 August 2009, 03:40 AM

Hi

Band is fake also the case has laser etched s/n between lugs.

Best left alone I think....

Simon

Rebel · 20 August 2009, 05:29 AM

Z-Sub · 20 August 2009, 07:56 AM

mcjp6 · 20 August 2009, 08:37 AM

IMO The dial is either fake or it has been badly refinished as the spacing on the writing is incorrect, take care.

chriseskew24 · 20 August 2009, 08:59 AM

No good IMHO

stevemulholland3 · 20 August 2009, 09:45 AM

the movement and the insert are most likely the only genuine parts on that sucker..

swatty · 20 August 2009, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greekbum

Who made it?

Evergreen · 20 August 2009, 09:52 AM

The 579 serial number is common in the DRSD Replicas. The caseback is also too nice for a watch this old. The pearl looks to be an aftermarket insert. Not a tritum pearl at all. The hev valve looks goofy as well. I believe this to be fake, or a Franken which are all too common with the 1665's.

dribelin · 20 August 2009, 10:45 AM

Thanks for all the info. The watch is actually listed on craigslist and the pictures are pretty shabby. I asked for better pictures and the above is what I received. My first instinct was that nothing seemed to match but wanted to get all you experts to weigh in. I'm slowly learning all the little things to look for when buying vintage and I appreciate all the responses.

onkyo · 20 August 2009, 10:52 AM

One word comes to mind ..... Fakeerrrrooooo.

Good ole 'craigslist special'

I doubt a real double red was ever listed there.

DadsWatch72 · 21 August 2009, 02:34 AM

The insert isn't right. The pearl doesn't have a 'ring' around it on the 1665. Just like this one.

Z-Sub · 21 August 2009, 04:33 PM

picture of the movement is stolen from some other place...

20 August 2009, 12:48 AM	#1
dribelin "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: North Carolina Posts: 17	Double Red Authenticity I found this watch for sale the other day and was wondering what everyone thought about it's authenticity. The serial number seems to be pretty high for a double red and I don't think the "FT" matches what would be correct even in the latest double red dials. I am definitely not even close to being able to judge authenticity accurately on vintage watches however, and would greatly appreciate any input. Attached Images

20 August 2009, 03:03 AM	#2
greekbum "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Nikos Location: Florida Watch: Rolex GMT 16750 Posts: 8,418	Who made it? __________________ Follow Me On Instagram @nickgogas Original Owner ROLEX 16750 GMT Daily Wearer For Over 13,000 Days And Counting

20 August 2009, 03:40 AM	#5
s1m0n "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Real Name: Simon Location: Israel Posts: 134	Hi Band is fake also the case has laser etched s/n between lugs. Best left alone I think.... Simon __________________

20 August 2009, 05:29 AM	#6
Rebel "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Dr Mark R Nail Location: New Albany Watch: Tudor Sub 75090 Posts: 8,254	__________________ ------------------------------- Member of the Nylon Nation

20 August 2009, 07:56 AM	#7
Z-Sub 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: So Cal, USA Watch: Not a ONEWatch Man Posts: 7,383	__________________ SS Submariner Date "Z" SS SeaDweller "D" SS Submariner "Random" TT Blue Submariner "P" SS GMT-Master ll "M", Pepsi Pam 311, 524, 297

20 August 2009, 03:04 AM	#3
djhiram Banned Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Hiram Location: Miami, FL Watch: 16600 Sea Dweller Posts: 1,233	Is it just me or does that vintage not look too vintage?

20 August 2009, 03:09 AM	#4
JPersat "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Jarrett Location: San Antonio TX Watch: ing everybody Posts: 1,515	Definately looks off to me. Did you buy it, thinking about it, or just run across it?

20 August 2009, 08:37 AM	#8
mcjp6 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Michael Location: VK2 - AUS Watch: 5513s Posts: 7,380	IMO The dial is either fake or it has been badly refinished as the spacing on the writing is incorrect, take care.

20 August 2009, 08:59 AM	#9
chriseskew24 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Christopher Location: fort lauderdale Watch: Bunches Posts: 1,860	No good IMHO

20 August 2009, 09:45 AM	#10
stevemulholland3 Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: steven Location: tampa bay Watch: 1680 18k sub Posts: 6,672	the movement and the insert are most likely the only genuine parts on that sucker..

20 August 2009, 09:52 AM	#12
Evergreen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: W. Washington Watch: Blancpain FF norad Posts: 203	The 579 serial number is common in the DRSD Replicas. The caseback is also too nice for a watch this old. The pearl looks to be an aftermarket insert. Not a tritum pearl at all. The hev valve looks goofy as well. I believe this to be fake, or a Franken which are all too common with the 1665's.

20 August 2009, 10:45 AM	#13
dribelin "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: North Carolina Posts: 17	Thanks for all the info. The watch is actually listed on craigslist and the pictures are pretty shabby. I asked for better pictures and the above is what I received. My first instinct was that nothing seemed to match but wanted to get all you experts to weigh in. I'm slowly learning all the little things to look for when buying vintage and I appreciate all the responses.

20 August 2009, 10:52 AM	#14
onkyo Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Pav Location: Manhattan Posts: 11,495	One word comes to mind ..... Fakeerrrrooooo. Good ole 'craigslist special' I doubt a real double red was ever listed there.

21 August 2009, 02:34 AM	#15
DadsWatch72 Banned Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: USA Watch: DRSD 1665 #3551XXX Posts: 2,401	The insert isn't right. The pearl doesn't have a 'ring' around it on the 1665. Just like this one. Attached Images

21 August 2009, 04:33 PM	#16
Z-Sub 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: So Cal, USA Watch: Not a ONEWatch Man Posts: 7,383	picture of the movement is stolen from some other place... __________________ SS Submariner Date "Z" SS SeaDweller "D" SS Submariner "Random" TT Blue Submariner "P" SS GMT-Master ll "M", Pepsi Pam 311, 524, 297

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