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Old 20 January 2024, 03:50 AM   #1
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My 116610 just stopped

My 2011 Submariner 116610LN just died on me this morning. Was out pushing the snow blower which is not in and of itself unusual. I came back in the house looked down and my watch had stopped.
I unscrewed the crown and gave it a few turns to wind it and nothing unusual feeling. Screwed the crown back down and nothing, the second hand for a few seconds had a very slight pulse like it was trying to move but unable.

I had it serviced in September of 2020 by Rik Dietel and it has always been a great running watch.

Im bummed out for sure.
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Old 20 January 2024, 04:00 AM   #2
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Sounds like a mainspring. Shouldn’t be a involved fix.
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Old 20 January 2024, 04:09 AM   #3
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My 2011 Submariner 116610LN just died on me this morning. Was out pushing the snow blower which is not in and of itself unusual. I came back in the house looked down and my watch had stopped.
I unscrewed the crown and gave it a few turns to wind it and nothing unusual feeling. Screwed the crown back down and nothing, the second hand for a few seconds had a very slight pulse like it was trying to move but unable.

I had it serviced in September of 2020 by Rik Dietel and it has always been a great running watch.

Im bummed out for sure.
Try winding at least 30 to 40 full crown turns clockwise only even after might need a gentle shake to start this is normal sometimes,it this does not work suspect mainspring is broken.
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Old 20 January 2024, 04:10 AM   #4
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Try winding at least 30 to 40 full crown turns clockwise only even after might need a gentle shake to start this is normal sometimes,it this does not work suspect mainspring is broken.
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Old 20 January 2024, 04:15 AM   #5
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That’s a real shame, and very disappointing. So sorry to hear, but it does sound like a simple fix. I’m not sure I’d send it to the same guy, though. It should have run well, a lot longer, after a full service, just a few years ago. Send it to RSC.

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Old 20 January 2024, 04:16 AM   #6
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Try winding at least 30 to 40 full crown turns clockwise only even after might need a gentle shake to start this is normal sometimes,it this does not work suspect mainspring is broken.

Gave a full 40+ turns. Screwed the crown back in and the second hand pulsed back and forth ever so slightly for a couple seconds then nothing. Sounds like mainspring maybe?
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Old 20 January 2024, 04:32 AM   #7
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Sounds like a mainspring. Shouldn’t be a involved fix.
Even if it is just the mainspring, you need to disassemble pretty much the whole movement to get there. With oil and grease in certain spots it would require a full service to do it properly.
A watchmaker telling you he will only do the spring is one I'd avoid.
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Old 20 January 2024, 05:58 AM   #8
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Even if it is just the mainspring, you need to disassemble pretty much the whole movement to get there. With oil and grease in certain spots it would require a full service to do it properly.
A watchmaker telling you he will only do the spring is one I'd avoid.
I think this one is going to RSC
ETA: just spoke with Dallas RSC and shipping instructions are inbound. Service times currently 4 to 6 weeks so thats a positive.
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Old 27 January 2024, 10:04 AM   #9
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Update to OP
I sent my watch off on Monday this week to the Dallas RSC. I just got the estimate email back this afternoon and approved the work.
1. Complete overhaul $850
2. Refinish bracelet $0
3. Repair bracelet: Repair worn end pieces 6 & 12 side $180
4. Refinish case $0

Service turnaround time is running 4 to 6 weeks needless to say I cant wait.
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Old 27 January 2024, 10:21 AM   #10
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Good luck. It should come back looking and running like new.
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Old 27 January 2024, 10:26 AM   #11
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I think this one is going to RSC
ETA: just spoke with Dallas RSC and shipping instructions are inbound. Service times currently 4 to 6 weeks so thats a positive.
Yes, but they seem to offer a max term when one calls. However, there have been many posts of people experiencing much less than the initial proposed term.
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Old 27 January 2024, 01:07 PM   #12
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Does refinish bracelet and case mean a polish? I was going to drop off my Explorer 1 at my AD tomorrow. Same thing, just stopped working. It’s from 2010 and has never been serviced. Definitely full service. However, I’m not sure if I’ll have it polished. I kinda like the scratches and scuffs it collected over time. On the other hand, a “fresh” watch is also appealing. What do you think?
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Old 27 January 2024, 03:07 PM   #13
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How many turns is "a few". Give it 40-50. Maybe it just needs to be wound. I hope its that simple.
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Old 27 January 2024, 03:46 PM   #14
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Sounds like a mainspring. Shouldn’t be a involved fix.
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Old 27 January 2024, 08:39 PM   #15
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Does refinish bracelet and case mean a polish? I was going to drop off my Explorer 1 at my AD tomorrow. Same thing, just stopped working. It’s from 2010 and has never been serviced. Definitely full service. However, I’m not sure if I’ll have it polished. I kinda like the scratches and scuffs it collected over time. On the other hand, a “fresh” watch is also appealing. What do you think?
Yes, refinish means polishing.
If you don't want that you have to request that RSC must not polish or refinish the case but only service the movement. Also request that RSC must not change the dial, hands, bezel insert etc. You need all that written down on the RSC paper that you sign before the service starts. Go directly RSC not AD. Polishing yes or no is your own choice, decide what YOU prefer, the opinion of others is irrelevant.
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Old 27 January 2024, 08:58 PM   #16
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Was out pushing the snow blower which is not in and of itself unusual..
Somehow pushing a snowblower might have had something to do with your dilemma.

While your waiting for repairs, buy a G-shock, you'll never have this problem again.
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Old 27 January 2024, 10:53 PM   #17
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Yes, refinish means polishing.
If you don't want that you have to request that RSC must not polish or refinish the case but only service the movement. Also request that RSC must not change the dial, hands, bezel insert etc. You need all that written down on the RSC paper that you sign before the service starts. Go directly RSC not AD. Polishing yes or no is your own choice, decide what YOU prefer, the opinion of others is irrelevant.
Thank you! Very good advice
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Old 27 January 2024, 11:04 PM   #18
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Should be good as new once it's back from Dallas.
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Old 28 January 2024, 12:48 AM   #19
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Somehow pushing a snowblower might have had something to do with your dilemma.

While your waiting for repairs, buy a G-shock, you'll never have this problem again.
If it’s a mainspring break then it was bound to happen at some point.
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Old 28 January 2024, 06:06 AM   #20
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This sounds like a mainstring issue
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Old 28 January 2024, 06:21 AM   #21
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That’s a real shame, and very disappointing. So sorry to hear, but it does sound like a simple fix. I’m not sure I’d send it to the same guy, though. It should have run well, a lot longer, after a full service, just a few years ago. Send it to RSC.

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Not sure how a service three/four years ago can be connected to a broken mainspring now, if that is indeed the problem.
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Old 28 January 2024, 06:26 AM   #22
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Somehow pushing a snowblower might have had something to do with your dilemma.

While your waiting for repairs, buy a G-shock, you'll never have this problem again.
These watches can handle being worn while snow blowing, riding a motorcycle, golfing etc.. that’s not his issue.
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Old 28 January 2024, 07:30 AM   #23
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Should be good as new once it's back from Dallas.
I am looking forward to getting it back thats for sure
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Old 28 January 2024, 08:09 AM   #24
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Dropped mine off today. No refinishing, just service of the movement. They said 4-6 weeks. Going to RSC in Pennsylvania.
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Old 28 January 2024, 08:18 AM   #25
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Its strange that your Rolex stopped working, especially since you had it serviced not too long ago, maybe it just needs a little TLC again.
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Old 28 January 2024, 09:50 AM   #26
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I've lost two mainsprings on 31x movement watches, both less than two years old. Sounds like you're probably lost yours. It should come in beautiful fettle. Something to look forward to.
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Old 28 January 2024, 10:05 AM   #27
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Probably the vibration from the snow blower broke the main spring. As much as we would like to believe our expensive professional Rolex references are bullet proof, they are still subject to the limitations of a delicate mechanical device. Suggest you strap on a G-Shock (also a fine watch which I totally respect) for any vigorous activities involving potential strong vibration or shock.All the same sorry to hear of your mishap.
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Old 28 January 2024, 10:30 AM   #28
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Not sure how a service three/four years ago can be connected to a broken mainspring now, if that is indeed the problem.

He used an independent. Who knows what the guy may have done, or not done, that could have caused his watch to fail so soon. That was my thought process, and fairly logical, in my head.


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Old 31 January 2024, 10:58 PM   #29
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Update to OP
I sent my watch off on Monday this week to the Dallas RSC. I just got the estimate email back this afternoon and approved the work.
1. Complete overhaul $850
2. Refinish bracelet $0
3. Repair bracelet: Repair worn end pieces 6 & 12 side $180
4. Refinish case $0

Service turnaround time is running 4 to 6 weeks needless to say I cant wait.
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I received the service confirmation in my email on Monday after using the electronic approval. They are quoting 5 weeks for work listed above.
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I received the service confirmation in my email on Monday after using the electronic approval. They are quoting 5 weeks for work listed above.
Hope you get it back sooner
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