Growing trend: Date set too high in date wheel

[Silvio Mosiello]

I’ve been seeing this more and more where a Rolex will have a date that sits way too high up in the window and quite frankly it just looks silly and screams lazy QC.

I used to think it was something that they perhaps intentionally did to make it easier to see the date at a glance, but if that was the case I don’t think i’d also see so many Rolex’s with centered dates. In my experience l, it seems to be more common on modern DJ,DD,EXP 2 and SD.

Honestly, I don’t think this is me being overly picky. It’s beneficial for enthusiasts to call out things that bother them especially when it comes to something that is magnified on the dial.

There is no reason why my $650 PRX should have a centered date wheel yet my DD40 is just at the point where it is about to cut into the font. I’ve gotten better at not sweating the small stuff but any blemish you can see with the naked eye on a luxury watch is fair game to be called out imo.




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[Kevin of Larchmont]

To be honest all I see is you taking pictures at an angle that puts the date towards the top of the cyclops.

[1st amg]

Yikes, never noticed. Going to check my watches out. But it does look like crap. You have a right to be annoyed for sure.


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[Duralex]

All those photos are taken with tilted angle, with six further from the lens than the twelve. You might just be seeing parallax error, in combination with the magnifier distortion.

[Dan Pierce]

Originally Posted by Kevin of Larchmont

To be honest all I see is you taking pictures at an angle that puts the date towards the top of the cyclops.

That was my first thought.
dP

[Silvio Mosiello]

Originally Posted by Kevin of Larchmont

To be honest all I see is you taking pictures at an angle that puts the date towards the top of the cyclops.

It’s not but I wish it was. Lots of the photos aren’t mine, but you can see the amount of white remaining above the date is almost non existent while below there is still plenty. It is apparently at all angles.


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[Silvio Mosiello]

Originally Posted by Dan Pierce

That was my first thought.
dP

Same angle with my sub which is perfectly centered. Notice how much white in the window is still above the date. It is 100% an alignment issue


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[Duralex]

Originally Posted by Silvio Mosiello

It’s not but I wish it was. Lots of the photos aren’t mine, but you can see the amount of white remaining above the date is almost non existent while below there is still plenty. It is apparently at all angles.


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Please Google parallax error, photography.

[Kevin of Larchmont]

Originally Posted by Silvio Mosiello

It’s not but I wish it was. Lots of the photos aren’t mine, but you can see the amount of white remaining above the date is almost non existent while below there is still plenty. It is apparently at all angles.


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Maybe all the photos aren’t yours but all the angles in the photos you presented are the same. Maybe show some photos at different angles to better illustrate your point.

[Silvio Mosiello]

Originally Posted by Duralex

All those photos are taken with tilted angle, with six further from the lens than the twelve. You might just be seeing parallax error, in combination with the magnifier distortion.

No way that is from an illusion. When you are able to see the entire date wheel and notice there is just no white left on top of date yet plenty under it is because of an alignment issue.


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[Duralex]

Originally Posted by Silvio Mosiello

No way that is from an illusion. When you are able to see the entire date wheel and notice there is just no white left on top of date yet plenty under it is because of an alignment issue.


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That’s why it’s called an illusion, it looks real.

If you won’t take the time to learn don’t expect to expand your knowledge.

[Silvio Mosiello]

Originally Posted by Duralex

That’s why it’s called an illusion, it looks real.

If you won’t take the time to learn don’t expect to expand your knowledge.

What are you talking about? There is 0 reason why you shouldn’t be able to see the additional white part of the date wheel when the entire window is visibile. Just took this with the watch pointed as down as possible right before the top portion of the date window disappears and you can clearly see the additional white part of the date wheel above the 22 where as with the pave DD there is 0.


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[Kevin of Larchmont]

Originally Posted by Silvio Mosiello

What are you talking about? There is 0 reason why you shouldn’t be able to see the additional white part of the date wheel when the entire window is visibile. Just took this with the watch pointed as down as possible right before the top portion of the date window disappears and you can clearly see the additional white part of the date wheel above the 22 where as with the pave DD there is 0.


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Gotta give you credit, you are committed to the bit.

[Calatrava r]

Perhaps the date is aligned as it is because most people read the date on an angle and that makes it most readable from that usual angle with the cyclops. I only suggest this because all your photos seem to show the same alignment.

[Duralex]

Originally Posted by Silvio Mosiello

What are you talking about? There is 0 reason why you shouldn’t be able to see the additional white part of the date wheel when the entire window is visibile. Just took this with the watch pointed as down as possible right before the top portion of the date window disappears and you can clearly see the additional white part of the date wheel above the 22 where as with the pave DD there is 0.


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Haha even one glance at that magnifier is enough to destroy your premise.

My friend, you have zero understanding of the factors involved. That’s not an insult, as you simply have not studied the issue. Now, if you want to continue to live in ignorance and perpetuate a generalized theory of quality control then perhaps an insult would be appropriate. Your decision.

[kieselguhr]

Maybe give changing your perspective a try. In every image you have posted (even the ones that you say are centered) the date window is being viewed at an angle of depression

[The OG Beef]

The shadow cast by the top of the date window is a bit of a clue.


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[Silvio Mosiello]

Originally Posted by Duralex

Haha even one glance at that magnifier is enough to destroy your premise.

My friend, you have zero understanding of the factors involved. That’s not an insult, as you simply have not studied the issue. Now, if you want to continue to live in ignorance and perpetuate a generalized theory of quality control then perhaps an insult would be appropriate. Your decision.

Educate me because you clearly know this topic better than me. Explain to me how in these photos taken at the same angle why you can see significantly more of the white part of the date wheel on the submariner vs the day date. Why does the parallax error apply to the day date and not the submariner?




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[996marty]

As others have mentioned photos definitely look on an angle instead of square on

[illiguy]

Concur. It’s the angle.

[Silvio Mosiello]

Originally Posted by Silvio Mosiello

Educate me because you clearly know this topic better than me. Explain to me how in these photos taken at the same angle why you can see significantly more of the white part of the date wheel on the submariner vs the day date. Why does the parallax error apply to the day date and not the submariner?




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Here is an example of recreating the same parralax error where on the sub it looks like the date wheel is high only when part of the entire wheel is out of the frame, but it clearly isn’t when you can see the entire date wheel you can see the white above the date. You can’t at all on the day date from any angle. How is that possible?


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[123Blueface]

I went back and looked at all my Rolex out of curiosity, not that it would matter the outcome.
All my subs, GMT’s and wife’s DJ’s all have a centered date.
Ironically, my my Everose DD40 has it misaligned as yours.
There has got to be a logical explanation for it but frankly, never even noticed and planning on making believe I never did going forward. Not an issue for me, specially after losing a kidney two weeks ago.

[KatGirl]

Just checked my Datejust. Looks good to me…

Kat


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[Silvio Mosiello]

Originally Posted by 123Blueface

I went back and looked at all my Rolex out of curiosity, not that it would matter the outcome.
All my subs, GMT’s and wife’s DJ’s all have a centered date.
Ironically, my my Everose DD40 has it misaligned as yours.
There has got to be a logical explanation for it but frankly, never even noticed and planning on making believe I never did going forward. Not an issue for me, specially after losing a kidney two weeks ago.

That’s awful man i hope that you are doing ok.


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[KatGirl]

Originally Posted by 123Blueface

I went back and looked at all my Rolex out of curiosity, not that it would matter the outcome.
All my subs, GMT’s and wife’s DJ’s all have a centered date.
Ironically, my my Everose DD40 has it misaligned as yours.
There has got to be a logical explanation for it but frankly, never even noticed and planning on making believe I never did going forward. Not an issue for me, specially after losing a kidney two weeks ago.

Hope you are doing OK, after surgery. I also hope your other kidney is working, as it should.

Kat


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