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Old 25 January 2024, 06:42 AM   #1
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Is the Day-Date 40 actually 39mm?

I heard from someone the DD40 case is actually 39mm and not 40mm. Is this true?
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Old 25 January 2024, 07:20 AM   #2
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No then it would be a DD39. You are safe
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Old 25 January 2024, 07:32 AM   #3
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Is there any evidence to this claim? Or did someone hold up a previous-gen Explorer 1 & say "yep, that's the same?"
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Old 25 January 2024, 09:17 AM   #4
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Rolex is notorious for rounding up and down its case width numbers. You’re right to ask.


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Old 25 January 2024, 09:49 AM   #5
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Rolex is notorious for rounding up and down its case width numbers. You’re right to ask.


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Old 25 January 2024, 10:41 AM   #6
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I have read on this forum many times that a DJ41 is actually 39mm. I have one and it’s probably true. It wears a lot smaller than my Submariner, and especially my 42mm Seamaster.

So maybe a DD40 is only 39mm.


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Old 25 January 2024, 10:51 AM   #7
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No then it would be a DD39. You are safe

This is not accurate. Rolex advertised numbers are rarely accurate, for example, the Daytona has never been 40mm.


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Old 25 January 2024, 10:51 AM   #8
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Does anyone here own a DD40 with a set of calipers who can verify?


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Old 25 January 2024, 11:07 AM   #9
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Case diameter 39.25mm, lug to lug 47.25mm.
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Old 25 January 2024, 11:10 AM   #10
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You are spot on.
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Old 25 January 2024, 11:22 AM   #11
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Rolex measures there ase from 4 to 10 I believe.
The case flares out slightly there.
So yes they are all overstated.
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Old 25 January 2024, 11:26 AM   #12
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https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=766757

Previous discussion in measuring a Rolex with photos
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Old 25 January 2024, 11:27 AM   #13
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Watchbox reviews: 40mm diameter 47.7mm lug to lug 12mm thick
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Old 25 January 2024, 11:35 AM   #14
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Watchbox reviews: 40mm diameter 47.7mm lug to lug 12mm thick

I don’t think I’ve ever seen Tim Mosso give a width reading that’s not the official reading. I wouldn’t trust Watchbox for this particular type of measurement.


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Old 25 January 2024, 11:46 AM   #15
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I heard from someone the DD40 case is actually 39mm and not 40mm. Is this true?
Approximately, yes.

Just as the DJ41 is approximately 40mm

And steel (+yellow gold on Oyster) Daytonas were just under 39mm and are now just under 40mm

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=516534

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Old 25 January 2024, 11:48 AM   #16
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Tim is very specific comparing it to DD II: 41mm diameter 53.2mm lug to lug and “both exactly” 12mm thick.
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Old 25 January 2024, 12:25 PM   #17
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Article about how the Rolex measurements are diagonal, 2 to 8 or 4 to 10.
The case flares out as it goes to the lugs, so as mentioned earlier, all Rolex watch diameters are overstated.

https://millenarywatches.com/how-do-...e-my-rolex-is/
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Old 25 January 2024, 12:57 PM   #18
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I don’t think I’ve ever seen Tim Mosso give a width reading that’s not the official reading. I wouldn’t trust Watchbox for this particular type of measurement.


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Old 25 January 2024, 01:02 PM   #19
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Case diameter 39.25mm, lug to lug 47.25mm.

39.25mm?? Where did you obtain this figure?


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Old 25 January 2024, 01:13 PM   #20
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Up for sure.
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Old 25 January 2024, 02:31 PM   #21
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Yes, it's not fully 40mm although I don't have my DD and calipers with me at the moment to give you an exact measurement. The DD does run ever so slightly smaller than 40mm though.
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Old 25 January 2024, 02:44 PM   #22
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Old 26 January 2024, 12:37 AM   #23
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Case diameter 39.25mm, lug to lug 47.25mm.

Can someone here confirm this??


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Old 26 January 2024, 12:40 AM   #24
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It’ll depend on who measures it, how they measure and whether they’re calipers are properly calibrated
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Old 26 January 2024, 01:18 AM   #25
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Have to agree mate all this fuss over a mm or so,I remember many years they called my first car a Austin mini 1000 but found out it was only 998cc.Was thinking of sueing them over my lost 2cc as they said it was a 1000cc.
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Old 26 January 2024, 01:25 AM   #26
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DD40 = 39mm
DJ41 = 39.5mm
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Old 26 January 2024, 03:59 AM   #27
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Just measure it with your calipers.

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Old 26 January 2024, 04:19 AM   #28
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I measured my watch with calipers last night. It’s a YG DD 40. I measured 3:30 to 9:30 on the case.

You can get different measurements as you go around the case, as it is not a perfect circle.
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Old 26 January 2024, 04:45 AM   #29
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I have read on this forum many times that a DJ41 is actually 39mm. I have one and it’s probably true. It wears a lot smaller than my Submariner, and especially my 42mm Seamaster.

So maybe a DD40 is only 39mm.


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I agree, my DJ41 wears more like a 39 or 40mm.
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Old 26 January 2024, 04:55 AM   #30
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Have to agree mate all this fuss over a mm or so,I remember many years they called my first car a Austin mini 1000 but found out it was only 998cc.Was thinking of sueing them over my lost 2cc as they said it was a 1000cc.
If Rolex produced your car it would have been badged 1500
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