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ROLEX* · 6 September 2024, 02:05 AM

Guys, please help me to authenticate this watch as the dial logo seems out of shape, thanks

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askdanny · 6 September 2024, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ROLEX*

Guys, please help me to authenticate this watch as the dial logo seems out of shape, thanks

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What is it about the dial logo you find odd?

ROLEX* · 6 September 2024, 02:46 AM

The proportion of the crown, seems less sleek, as in the too much white in the middle part of the crown

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77T · 6 September 2024, 03:00 AM

You be the judge...

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brandrea · 6 September 2024, 03:12 AM

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Guys, please help me to authenticate this watch as the dial logo seems out of shape, thanks …

I see what you mean … there’s a giant white blob in the middle of the crown logo

TikTok · 6 September 2024, 03:49 AM

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I see what you mean … there’s a giant white blob in the middle of the crown logo

Whoooooaaaa! Nearly missed that.

Brian Page · 6 September 2024, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by brandrea

I see what you mean … there’s a giant white blob in the middle of the crown logo

Good one..

Wcdhtwn · 6 September 2024, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by TikTok

Whoooooaaaa! Nearly missed that.

Seconds count…

PenDelicate · 6 September 2024, 04:45 AM

Honestly, I wouldn't have a clue whether it's authentic, but there are soooooooo many second-hand GMTs out there that if I had the slightest doubt, I would pass on the deal, no matter the price.

KathleenL · 6 September 2024, 09:14 AM

I am the furthest thing from a Rolex expert, but that crown doesn't look right to me. I took a screenshot of the crown from the OP's photo, and put it next to a screenshot of the crown from the Rolex website. The OP's crown has much more white space than it should. That is, the "fingers" of the crown are too short. The OP's crown is on the left, the Rolex website crown is on the right.

996marty · 6 September 2024, 03:24 PM

I don’t know if it’s the quality of the photos but it looks like the hyphen/Dash between the GMT and Master is almost touching the M with a bigger gap to the left

Andad · 6 September 2024, 04:01 PM

I would pass on that one.

KatGirl · 6 September 2024, 04:16 PM

Could be a super clone! Pass! Remember to “buy the seller.”

Kat

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faimag · 6 September 2024, 04:55 PM

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I am the furthest thing from a Rolex expert, but that crown doesn't look right to me. I took a screenshot of the crown from the OP's photo, and put it next to a screenshot of the crown from the Rolex website. The OP's crown has much more white space than it should. That is, the "fingers" of the crown are too short. The OP's crown is on the left, the Rolex website crown is on the right.

Does Rolex have a picture of 16710 in their website???

Back then Rolex used several different factories to source their dials so slights variation are not at all uncommon.

Can't tell much from a single pic, but the watch looks fine to me. And that serif insert is lovely.

0nly5iv3Digits · 6 September 2024, 05:11 PM

This is absolutely genuine. Rolex has always tweaked the dial coronet from serial to serial. Looks like a typical K or Y serial coronet for the GMT range.

As always - buy the seller

Speedbird-1 · 6 September 2024, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by PenDelicate

Honestly, I wouldn't have a clue whether it's authentic, but there are soooooooo many second-hand GMTs out there that if I had the slightest doubt, I would pass on the deal, no matter the price.

Exactly this.

"If there is any doubt, then there is, no doubt"

Speedbird-1 · 6 September 2024, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 0nly5iv3Digits

This is absolutely genuine. Rolex has always tweaked the dial coronet from serial to serial. Looks like a typical K or Y serial coronet for the GMT range.

As always - buy the seller

..."absolutely genuine."
Are you, the seller?

ROLEX* · 6 September 2024, 09:12 PM

I checked Chrono24 and found another same example:

https://chrono24.app/rolex/rolex-gmt...MY&SETCURR=MYR

Guess it is different printings from different factories in different serial

joli160 · 6 September 2024, 09:15 PM

Many different crowns around, it is not straight forward.

Kevin of Larchmont · 6 September 2024, 10:56 PM

Handsome reference.

goldfixer21 · 7 September 2024, 12:24 AM

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Could be a super clone! Pass! Remember to “buy the seller.”

Kat

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No one is super cloning a 5 digit GMT

ROLEX* · 7 September 2024, 02:49 AM

Girls exaggerate things and situations ;)

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Kevin of Larchmont · 7 September 2024, 03:51 AM

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Girls exaggerate things and situations ;)

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Bad take, dude.

Stan Cooper · 7 September 2024, 04:52 AM

Here's my 2001 "P"...

KatGirl · 7 September 2024, 05:04 AM

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No one is super cloning a 5 digit GMT

Counterfeit Rolexes have been around for many years.

Kat

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goldfixer21 · 7 September 2024, 11:40 AM

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Counterfeit Rolexes have been around for many years.

Kat

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Clones are not being made of 5 digit watches, fakes sure but not 1:1 clones

ArtNouveau · 7 September 2024, 12:32 PM

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Girls exaggerate things and situations ;)

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Wow. Read forum rules.

csaltphoto · 7 September 2024, 12:50 PM

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Clones are not being made of 5 digit watches, fakes sure but not 1:1 clones

I kinda went down this rabbit hole a few years back out of curiosity... I don't recall 5 digit clones (at the time) but they have moved into the 4 digit market for some of the high end collector pieces, older subs and so on. That's why vintage is such a minefield.

KatGirl · 7 September 2024, 01:01 PM

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Clones are not being made of 5 digit watches, fakes sure but not 1:1 clones

Fair enough. 4 digit: yes, 5 digit: No. What do I know? I’m just a girl.

🥹

Kat

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6 September 2024, 02:05 AM	#1
ROLEX* "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: ROLEXROLEXRO Location: ROLEXROLEXROLE Watch: ROLEXROLEXROLEX Posts: 761	Weird dial logo Guys, please help me to authenticate this watch as the dial logo seems out of shape, thanks Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ To each their own and your mileage may vary. "In the time of our life, live—so that in that wondrous time you shall not add to the misery and sorrow of the world, but shall smile to the infinite delight and mystery of it." — William Saroyan

6 September 2024, 02:46 AM	#3
ROLEX* "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: ROLEXROLEXRO Location: ROLEXROLEXROLE Watch: ROLEXROLEXROLEX Posts: 761	The proportion of the crown, seems less sleek, as in the too much white in the middle part of the crown Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ To each their own and your mileage may vary. "In the time of our life, live—so that in that wondrous time you shall not add to the misery and sorrow of the world, but shall smile to the infinite delight and mystery of it." — William Saroyan

6 September 2024, 03:00 AM	#4
77T 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 42,016	You be the judge... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

6 September 2024, 09:14 AM	#10
KathleenL 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2021 Real Name: Kathleen Location: California Watch: 279171-0001 Posts: 996	I am the furthest thing from a Rolex expert, but that crown doesn't look right to me. I took a screenshot of the crown from the OP's photo, and put it next to a screenshot of the crown from the Rolex website. The OP's crown has much more white space than it should. That is, the "fingers" of the crown are too short. The OP's crown is on the left, the Rolex website crown is on the right. Attached Images

6 September 2024, 04:01 PM	#12
Andad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,528	I would pass on that one. __________________ E

6 September 2024, 04:45 AM	#9
PenDelicate "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2023 Location: Stockholm Watch: Just a Daytona Posts: 1,385	Honestly, I wouldn't have a clue whether it's authentic, but there are soooooooo many second-hand GMTs out there that if I had the slightest doubt, I would pass on the deal, no matter the price.

6 September 2024, 03:24 PM	#11
996marty "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2019 Location: Uk Watch: RolexGMT/Tudor7928 Posts: 4,182	I don’t know if it’s the quality of the photos but it looks like the hyphen/Dash between the GMT and Master is almost touching the M with a bigger gap to the left

6 September 2024, 04:16 PM	#13
KatGirl 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Kat Location: CA, USA Watch: 126233 Wimbledon T Posts: 7,155	Could be a super clone! Pass! Remember to “buy the seller.” Kat Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

6 September 2024, 05:11 PM	#15
0nly5iv3Digits "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: EARTH Watch: What is "watch"? Posts: 1,349	This is absolutely genuine. Rolex has always tweaked the dial coronet from serial to serial. Looks like a typical K or Y serial coronet for the GMT range. As always - buy the seller __________________ “UNpolished or I’m not interested” 😎 2FA Enabled

6 September 2024, 09:12 PM	#18
ROLEX* "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: ROLEXROLEXRO Location: ROLEXROLEXROLE Watch: ROLEXROLEXROLEX Posts: 761	I checked Chrono24 and found another same example: https://chrono24.app/rolex/rolex-gmt...MY&SETCURR=MYR Guess it is different printings from different factories in different serial __________________ To each their own and your mileage may vary. "In the time of our life, live—so that in that wondrous time you shall not add to the misery and sorrow of the world, but shall smile to the infinite delight and mystery of it." — William Saroyan

6 September 2024, 09:15 PM	#19
joli160 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: NL Watch: Yachtmaster Posts: 14,759	Many different crowns around, it is not straight forward. __________________ Day Date 18238, Yachtmaster 16622, Deepsea 116660, Submariner 116619, SkyD 326935, DJ 178271, DJ 69158, Yachtmaster 169622, GMT 116713LN, GMT 126711.

6 September 2024, 10:56 PM	#20
Kevin of Larchmont 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: The Ice House Watch: Ingersoll Mickey Posts: 3,393	Handsome reference.

7 September 2024, 02:49 AM	#22
ROLEX* "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: ROLEXROLEXRO Location: ROLEXROLEXROLE Watch: ROLEXROLEXROLEX Posts: 761	Girls exaggerate things and situations ;) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ To each their own and your mileage may vary. "In the time of our life, live—so that in that wondrous time you shall not add to the misery and sorrow of the world, but shall smile to the infinite delight and mystery of it." — William Saroyan

7 September 2024, 04:52 AM	#24
Stan Cooper 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Real Name: Stan Cooper Location: Sonoma County, CA Watch: GMT-Master II Posts: 2,889	Here's my 2001 "P"... __________________ ♛16710 GMT-Master II, ♛1915 Rolex WW1 Trench Watch, Zelos Thresher 500m GMT Meteorite, Zelos Swordfish 40 200m Ti Blood Moon Meteorite, Hamilton Pilot Chronograph, Ball Roadmaster Pilot GMT COSC Chronometer, Zelos Mako 300M Traveler GMT Meteorite, Seiko SSC813 quartz solar powered chronograph It's weird being the same age as old people. - Stan

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