The Rolex Forums   The Rolex Watch

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX


Go Back   Rolex Forums - Rolex Forum > Rolex & Tudor Watch Topics > Rolex General Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 26 September 2024, 03:16 AM   #1
UK_
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: London
Posts: 412
Pepsi - to bundle or not

Sadly my AD shut down last year. I had a reasonable spend with them (few DJs, Ladies DJ, LV Sub).

I have an itch for a BLRO Sub, but of course with no history I am starting again.

I am also planning on buying a Omega Soeedmaster as a business gift (all above board with taxed income).

So I have been thinking should I buy it new from my local AD (Goldsmiths in the UK), and hope it will help with a BLRO, or just go grey using the saving on the Omega to take the sting out of the grey BLRO?

I don’t flip or trade watches so just want the option in the future to buy the watches I like from an AD.




Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
UK_ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26 September 2024, 03:22 AM   #2
116510lv
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Leicester
Posts: 60
BLRO Sub? Have I missed something

Sent from my SM-S918B using Tapatalk
116510lv is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26 September 2024, 03:23 AM   #3
espanol
2024 Pledge Member
 
espanol's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2020
Real Name: Mitchell
Location: EST, EAT
Watch: Trusty Explorer
Posts: 1,084
Quote:
Originally Posted by 116510lv View Post
BLRO Sub? Have I missed something

Sent from my SM-S918B using Tapatalk
Was likely an honest mistake, not a big deal.

OP, if you want the watch buy it used. If an AD ends up offering you a new one then just sell either one.
espanol is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26 September 2024, 03:24 AM   #4
Guppydriver
2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member
 
Guppydriver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2020
Real Name: A-Aron
Location: Utah
Watch: 126710BLNR 226570
Posts: 2,226
I think you meant BLRO GMT… You’re like me, thinking about so many watches, they all get jumbled in your head. lol

Tough first ask, and I’m not sure buying a Speedy will help (especially the white dial). You gotta start somewhere though. I think the most important part will be building rapport with a SA who is somewhat understanding of then pitfalls of losing an AD. Once you have a SA gunning for you, the harder allocations become feasible, even without a lot of spend history.

I’d hate to spend double retail on a piece that isn’t coming down anytime soon, but it is a wonderful watch.
Guppydriver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26 September 2024, 03:27 AM   #5
JSolution
"TRF" Member
 
JSolution's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Real Name: Jay
Location: England
Watch: SkyD
Posts: 6,398
Authorised dealers are struggling to sell watches now, the dynamic has totally changed and I don’t think it’ll ever go back. I wouldn’t bother with an AD at this point unless you have a long standing relationship - just go and buy it :)
JSolution is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26 September 2024, 03:35 AM   #6
UK_
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: London
Posts: 412
Sorry all - yes GMT!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
UK_ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26 September 2024, 03:59 AM   #7
ninjin
"TRF" Member
 
ninjin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: LHR-HKG
Watch: give me time...
Posts: 862
Quote:
Originally Posted by UK_ View Post
Sadly my AD shut down last year. I had a reasonable spend with them (few DJs, Ladies DJ, LV Sub).

I have an itch for a BLRO Sub, but of course with no history I am starting again.

I am also planning on buying a Omega Soeedmaster as a business gift (all above board with taxed income).

So I have been thinking should I buy it new from my local AD (Goldsmiths in the UK), and hope it will help with a BLRO, or just go grey using the saving on the Omega to take the sting out of the grey BLRO?

I don’t flip or trade watches so just want the option in the future to buy the watches I like from an AD.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Not sure if Goldsmiths have changed the rules due to the current market situation but before you could not go on wait list for a proffessional model (like the pepsi) unless you had a a purchase of a classic model first.

It doesn't help either that you have chosen the 2nd hardest to get Stainless Steel reference after the Stainless Daytona's.

Better check with Goldsmiths before you go down the rabbit hole of bundling.
__________________
First watch since age 7 (red digital) and addicted ever since!
ninjin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26 September 2024, 04:09 AM   #8
100%
Banned
 
Join Date: Sep 2024
Location: now
Posts: 6
“I am also planning on buying an Omega Soeedmaster as a business gift (all above board with taxed income).”

Is that so?
100% is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26 September 2024, 04:27 AM   #9
996marty
"TRF" Member
 
996marty's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Uk
Watch: RolexGMT/Tudor7928
Posts: 4,182
I’d just go pre owned on the BLRO
996marty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26 September 2024, 04:32 AM   #10
brandrea
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
brandrea's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Real Name: Brian (TBone)
Location: canada
Watch: es make me smile
Posts: 78,126
If you can justify the gray price, I’d buy it. You won’t get one at an AD any time soon
brandrea is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 26 September 2024, 05:10 AM   #11
worldofoyster
"TRF" Member
 
worldofoyster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2019
Real Name: Vincent
Location: 215
Watch: SS Sub
Posts: 2,362
price is coming down for most rolex but the pepsi and daytona. you still probably better off go grey.
worldofoyster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26 September 2024, 05:17 AM   #12
Barada7
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2022
Location: Rhode Island
Watch: Explorer
Posts: 431
In the US, a gray BLRO is around $20k. A $9k premium over the AD. Maybe suggest you’ll buy $5k worth of hard to move stuff from the AD and make a bundle that way?
Barada7 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 26 September 2024, 06:59 AM   #13
4reRlxGuy
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2023
Real Name: David
Location: Socal
Watch: Patek 3970
Posts: 406
Quote:
Originally Posted by Barada7 View Post
In the US, a gray BLRO is around $20k. A $9k premium over the AD. Maybe suggest you’ll buy $5k worth of hard to move stuff from the AD and make a bundle that way?
Bundling $5K in southern California won't work based on experience.
4reRlxGuy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26 September 2024, 07:05 AM   #14
Tim Plains
"TRF" Member
 
Tim Plains's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: EST
Watch: 126610LN
Posts: 1,175
I don't think a Speedmaster master is enough to get a GMT.
Tim Plains is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26 September 2024, 07:51 AM   #15
Space1970
"TRF" Member
 
Space1970's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2023
Location: UK
Posts: 145
Despite the watch market not being as strong as it was I don' think any Goldsmiths in London would entertain offering you a Pepsi as your first Rolex with them

Buying an Omega would help with a long term relationship but I don't think it would change anything in short term
Space1970 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26 September 2024, 07:54 AM   #16
0nly5iv3Digits
"TRF" Member
 
0nly5iv3Digits's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: EARTH
Watch: What is "watch"?
Posts: 1,356
Perhaps worth looking at a 16700 or 16710
__________________
UNpolished or I’m not interested” 😎
2FA Enabled
0nly5iv3Digits is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 26 September 2024, 08:35 AM   #17
Harry-57
2024 Pledge Member
 
Harry-57's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Real Name: Harry
Location: England
Posts: 10,681
No point in trying to second guess one AD - they chop and change all the time, but it's worth a conversation with a few ADs. You will have to wait for one. If you have the money and won't miss it you can have one this week. I love my SS BLRO but I wouldn't pay the grey premium for one.Your money, your life, your call.
Harry-57 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26 September 2024, 11:18 AM   #18
Zach69SS
"TRF" Member
 
Zach69SS's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2020
Location: Sector 001
Posts: 664
Op, GMT with no purchase history is impossible in the US, especially a Pepsi or even any GMT. But I’m not familiar with UK ADs, give it a try you lose nothing but time.
There are a few ADs in the UK. Either way there will be a wait, quite a but I’d imagine.

Goldsmith’s and another can’t remember the name right now? Try them both.


Happy hunting,

Cheers,
Zach69SS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26 September 2024, 08:11 PM   #19
joli160
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
joli160's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: NL
Watch: Yachtmaster
Posts: 14,761
Playing AD games with zero guarantees doesn’t work for me.
Just buy grey, have it tomorrow and start enjoying it.
Life is short
__________________
Day Date 18238, Yachtmaster 16622, Deepsea 116660, Submariner 116619, SkyD 326935, DJ 178271, DJ 69158, Yachtmaster 169622, GMT 116713LN, GMT 126711.
joli160 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26 September 2024, 08:42 PM   #20
gamingdoctor
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Michigan, US
Posts: 444
Quote:
Originally Posted by joli160 View Post
Playing AD games with zero guarantees doesn’t work for me.
Just buy grey, have it tomorrow and start enjoying it.
Life is short
Agree. Don't buy what you don't want (the speedy 100% won't be enough anyway). You'll be spending a crap ton more at the AD on stuff you don't need than if you just bought it gray.
gamingdoctor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26 September 2024, 09:18 PM   #21
L_S_SHOE
"TRF" Member
 
L_S_SHOE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Tennessee, USA
Watch: 16800
Posts: 584
Pepsi - to bundle or not

Been in the same boat.

I’d suggest buying both the GMT and Speedmaster from a trusted seller. You can probably negotiate a small discount together, so you’ll get the Speedy under MSRP and the GMT under current Grey market prices (not much but some).

Would not waste precious time and money trying to buy from an AD.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
L_S_SHOE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26 September 2024, 09:33 PM   #22
Hollie_Rollie
2024 Pledge Member
 
Hollie_Rollie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: U.S.A.
Watch: SD43
Posts: 3,353
I would hang tight. As others have mentioned prices on used market are coming down. Paying 9k over list for a used watch is crazy.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Hollie_Rollie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26 September 2024, 10:00 PM   #23
rmlovett1
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
rmlovett1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Real Name: Richard
Location: GA
Watch: YTBD
Posts: 23,509
I’d personally go gray
rmlovett1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26 September 2024, 10:17 PM   #24
travisb
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
travisb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Real Name: Travis
Location: FL / NYC
Watch: Yes..
Posts: 33,493
If you're ok with the price, just go gray and avoid the guessing games.
travisb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26 September 2024, 11:44 PM   #25
1William
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: North Carolina
Watch: Rolex/Others
Posts: 47,787
Bundling is a way for AD's to move other merchandise with the promise of a brighter day down the road. Don't do it without a specific date of delivery. You will be better off both on the time wait and money not to buy watches you do not want to try to get to what you do want. Buy from a reputable secondary seller, pay, and have the watch today or tomorrow and go on with it. Just the time and aggravation of playing games is enough to make me buy form the Trusted Sellers. Great watch choice though.
Attached Images
 
1William is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27 September 2024, 01:23 AM   #26
Calatrava r
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: United States
Watch: Rolex and Patek
Posts: 11,425
If you really want the BLRO, I suggest you buy it in the secondary market as suggested. The premium is tough to swallow but getting it from an AD is very difficult as new customer.
Calatrava r is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27 September 2024, 01:49 AM   #27
WS9D
"TRF" Member
 
WS9D's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Real Name: Steve
Location: Shasta
Watch: es..More Watches!
Posts: 2,415
Got mine from Davidsw after playing AD games for six years. Paying secondary was cheaper than buying a bunch of stuff I don’t want plus the 9.25% sales tax on it all.
WS9D is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27 September 2024, 02:00 AM   #28
2loaded
"TRF" Member
 
2loaded's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: USA
Watch: es watches
Posts: 2,107
As others have said, the BLRO is one of the most difficult to acquire SS pieces.
Throw your name in the hat at your local AD. Buy the things you want. Nothing extra.
Relationship outweighs spend at a great AD.
2loaded is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27 September 2024, 02:12 AM   #29
SLWoodster
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: California
Watch: GMT BLNR
Posts: 1,514
Except the relationship is spend.

Unless he’s open to marrying the manager’s daughter.



Quote:
Originally Posted by 2loaded View Post
As others have said, the BLRO is one of the most difficult to acquire SS pieces.
Throw your name in the hat at your local AD. Buy the things you want. Nothing extra.
Relationship outweighs spend at a great AD.
SLWoodster is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 27 September 2024, 02:17 AM   #30
MangoTree1
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2022
Location: Basel
Posts: 162
An Omega to bundle for a BLRO?! Never ever! All my sources here in switzerland tell me, that these days the BLRO is harder to get than a Daytona as there were practically no deliveries of the BLRO last year and still only very few.
MangoTree1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Wrist Aficionado

My Watch LLC

WatchesOff5th

DavidSW Watches

Takuya Watches

OCWatches


*Banners Of The Month*
This space is provided to horological resources.





Copyright ©2004-2024, The Rolex Forums. All Rights Reserved.

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX

Rolex is a registered trademark of ROLEX USA. The Rolex Forums is not affiliated with ROLEX USA in any way.