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linesiders · 7 June 2023, 09:53 PM

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I'd be interested in the answer to the 'pumpkin' conundrum. My black dial 9411 ha pretty yellow/orange lume and it looks great. My blue, on the other hand (same age, a few serial numbers apart, same use, etc.) hasn't aged the same way.

I have tested plots in a safe, darkening over a year and change.

Couple things, moisture and a safe can darken - as can other factors thru normal use in the sun. Also, lume is sometimes different on black dials versus blue, and even with runs of same color dials. Pure speculation, these dials were done in batches and the lume compounds varied a bit when delivered, and when sat waiting to be applied. But the older you go, the more variances in lume compounds you see over time.

TuRo · 8 June 2023, 05:16 AM

Don't want to be a party pooper, but the way that true dome seems to make the HR markers look huge and distorted the D in OYSTERDATE is unusual !

linesiders · 8 June 2023, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by TuRo

Don't want to be a party pooper, but the way that true dome seems to make the HR markers look huge and distorted the D in OYSTERDATE is unusual !

I think that is more a result of the fonts on the "Smudge Dials" than the crystal. The black "SUBMARINER" dials, rather than the ZUBMARINER dials, have more softer fonts on the top half of the dial than the Z dials (black or blue), and usually a bigger shield, too. Black dials went to the "S" dial a couple years earlier than the blue.

tekno · 13 June 2023, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by TuRo

Don't want to be a party pooper, but the way that true dome seems to make the HR markers look huge and distorted the D in OYSTERDATE is unusual !

Are you referring to the first photos I posted or the second set?

The first pics with the high distortion was with a supposed factory NOS T19. This crystal came apart in 2 weeks or so, no clue if it was a bad crystal or the retaining ring was too tight. I’m not a watchmaker.

Now that I’m looking closer at the pics I see what your referring to. The markers still have a little bit of distortion along the edge.

This is with the truedome

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southtexas · 13 June 2023, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by tekno

If you black looks like it sat in a safe I’m going to bet that’s the answer. Most of the watches I see that are really dark look like they are almost NOS, possibly sat in a safe. I could be wrong.

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According to the original owner of my red 1680, it was a gift from the ex-wife, and sat in a safe for years/decades after their divorce (new wife wasn’t keen on him wearing it).

The lume plots were indeed dark. After about a year of daily wear by yours truly, the plots had lightened noticeably.

tekno · 13 June 2023, 02:33 AM

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According to the original owner of my red 1680, it was a gift from the ex-wife, and sat in a safe for years/decades after their divorce (new wife wasn’t keen on him wearing it).

The lume plots were indeed dark. After about a year of daily wear by yours truly, the plots had lightened noticeably.

Can I see the watch? It sounds spectacular.

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southtexas · 13 June 2023, 02:36 AM

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Can I see the watch? It sounds spectacular.

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I found a pic and added it to my post.

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tekno · 13 June 2023, 03:48 AM

That looks awesome. It’s interesting that the lume has lightened up.

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007Sub · 20 June 2023, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by tekno

Are you referring to the first photos I posted or the second set?

The first pics with the high distortion was with a supposed factory NOS T19. This crystal came apart in 2 weeks or so, no clue if it was a bad crystal or the retaining ring was too tight. I’m not a watchmaker.

Now that I’m looking closer at the pics I see what your referring to. The markers still have a little bit of distortion along the edge.

This is with the truedome

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Killer piece! And that truedome makes it look its best

In terms of the lume plots changing color... some say that heavier light/UV exposure will keep the plots lighter or lighten up already dark plots.

Whats interesting is that the matte dials from 68-70 era that tend to turn tropical most often (not always) have lighter lume plots as well... Perhaps something to do with the increased UV that turned the dials tropical. Of course these are all just best guesses no one knows for sure.

STEELINOX · 20 June 2023, 09:50 PM

Golly !
That's perty. Can we please see some "holes & chamferage"?
Especially crown side...
Thanks,
Randy

swish77 · 21 June 2023, 12:02 AM

Great-looking Tudor!

All this talk of crystals .... Why not just install a correct top hat? This watch was not designed for a dome.

Dom9 · 21 June 2023, 03:40 AM

I was considering the dome vs top hat question on the train on the way home today. Must admit to being a top hat man myself but that the dome does look fantastic here.

linesiders · 21 June 2023, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by STEELINOX

Golly !
That's perty. Can we please see some "holes & chamferage"?
Especially crown side...
Thanks,
Randy

Who let you in here?

STEELINOX · 21 June 2023, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by linesiders

Who let you in here?

The guy with the “ROLEX” tuna can strapped onto his right wrist,

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seiko92 · 24 June 2023, 01:25 AM

Awesome watch.

Ben39 · 24 June 2023, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by 007Sub

Killer piece! And that truedome makes it look its best

In terms of the lume plots changing color... some say that heavier light/UV exposure will keep the plots lighter or lighten up already dark plots.

Whats interesting is that the matte dials from 68-70 era that tend to turn tropical most often (not always) have lighter lume plots as well... Perhaps something to do with the increased UV that turned the dials tropical. Of course these are all just best guesses no one knows for sure.

Yes sir couldn’t be more agree with you Greg🫡

Here’s my true-domed MN

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Ben39 · 24 June 2023, 11:53 AM

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Back from an overhaul w/Phillip Ridley… very pleased. We did a standard serviced, cleaned as much of the corrosion off the hands without damaging them. True dome swapped for a NOS T19 as well.

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Nice and very clean Sf!

Philip is one of the top notch

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007Sub · 27 June 2023, 01:14 PM

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Yes sir couldn’t be more agree with you Greg🫡

Here’s my true-domed MN

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Love it Ben! One of the nicest Blue MN's out there!

Ben39 · 30 June 2023, 02:26 AM

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Love it Ben! One of the nicest Blue MN's out there!

Thanks buddy:)

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tekno · 4 July 2023, 12:02 PM

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Yes sir couldn’t be more agree with you Greg🫡

Here’s my true-domed MN

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Unreal watch!

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Ben39 · 4 July 2023, 01:07 PM

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Unreal watch!

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8 June 2023, 05:16 AM	#62
TuRo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Real Name: Paul Location: Cantabrigia - G.B Watch: ing the detectives Posts: 2,832	Don't want to be a party pooper, but the way that true dome seems to make the HR markers look huge and distorted the D in OYSTERDATE is unusual ! __________________ Thieves and fools and long travelled soldiers, A candid light exposes their homes. Human falter, people bellowed from their homes. And houses, there's fools and long reigning pharaohs. IT BITES - Yellow Christian

20 June 2023, 09:50 PM	#70
STEELINOX 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Sink-O! Location: a praire in AZ Watch: ROLEX-less atm... Posts: 14,021	Golly ! That's perty. Can we please see some "holes & chamferage"? Especially crown side... Thanks, Randy __________________ *Positive Waves Baby* Lug Hole Loyalist / Chamfer Line Inspector INFORTHE WIN SUB-MAH-REEEN-ER ~ !

13 June 2023, 03:48 AM	#68
tekno 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Texas Watch: Tudor Snowflake Posts: 1,101	That looks awesome. It’s interesting that the lume has lightened up. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

21 June 2023, 12:02 AM	#71
swish77 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Aaron Location: CT/NYC Watch: ing the time! Posts: 6,999	Great-looking Tudor! All this talk of crystals .... Why not just install a correct top hat? This watch was not designed for a dome.

21 June 2023, 03:40 AM	#72
Dom9 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2023 Real Name: Dom Location: United Kingdom Watch: SD16600 & 9411 Posts: 472	I was considering the dome vs top hat question on the train on the way home today. Must admit to being a top hat man myself but that the dome does look fantastic here.

24 June 2023, 01:25 AM	#75
seiko92 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Spain Watch: Tudor 79090 Posts: 16	Awesome watch.

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