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Old 16 July 2014, 05:47 AM   #121
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After reading this thread I have a question. What is the bare minimum net worth that a person must have, to be called wealthy?

I ask the question out of curiosity over people's perception of wealth. Give me a number.
100 billion dollars.

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Old 16 July 2014, 05:54 AM   #122
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After reading this thread I have a question. What is the bare minimum net worth that a person must have, to be called wealthy?

I ask the question out of curiosity over people's perception of wealth. Give me a number.
1 million is enough to get started. beyond that it's just more stuff, bigger houses, nicer hotels and vacations etc. if you know what you're doing, $1million is enough f-you-money
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Old 16 July 2014, 06:02 AM   #123
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1 million is enough to get started. beyond that it's just more stuff, bigger houses, nicer hotels and vacations etc. if you know what you're doing, $1million is enough f-you-money
Not sure, as much as I do agree 1 million is enough
but the phrase and meaning of "wealthy" for me is
You have so much, your kids are financially set, and so are your grand kids
and all the way to great great great great grand kids
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Old 16 July 2014, 06:06 AM   #124
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Not sure, as much as I do agree 1 million is enough
but the phrase and meaning of "wealthy" for me is
You have so much, your kids are financially set, and so are your grand kids
and all the way to great great great great grand kids
oh, i was defining at a personal level. though in your case, a ranch in utah could also do that. hope your family likes chicken lol
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Old 16 July 2014, 06:17 AM   #125
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One million may be a little security but it is not wealthy. I realize that a person renting and living from paycheck to paycheck may see 1 million differently.

Being affluent, owning your home and cars outright with one million in investments would mean a person is well off but far from wealthy. I always thought wealthy was at least 50 million in investments. The house and toys are just that, wasted money that earns nothing.

There are many affluent people but very few wealthy ones.

I am not wealthy.
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Old 16 July 2014, 07:11 AM   #126
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Old 16 July 2014, 07:57 AM   #127
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After reading this thread I have a question. What is the bare minimum net worth that a person must have, to be called wealthy?

I ask the question out of curiosity over people's perception of wealth. Give me a number.
$25M and above.
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Old 16 July 2014, 08:18 AM   #128
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This is from an article about wealth in America. I don't know if it is accurate. The table did not copy, but you can figure out the columns:

"Exactly how rich are the Top 1%?

People often wonder exactly how much income and/or wealth someone needs to have to be included in the Top 1% or the Top 20%; Table 1 below lists some absolute dollar amounts associated with various income and wealth classes, but the important point to keep in mind is that for the most part, it's the relative positions of wealth holders and income earners that we are trying to comprehend in this document.

Table 1: Income, net worth, and financial worth in the U.S. by percentile, in 2010 dollars
Wealth or income class:

First number: Mean household income. Second number: Mean household net worth Third number: Mean household financial (non-home) wealth

Top 1 percent $1,318,200 $16,439,400 $15,171,600
Top 20 percent $226,200 $2,061,600 $1,719,800
60th-80th percentile $72,000 $216,900 $100,700
40th-60th percentile $41,700 $61,000 $12,200
Bottom 40 percent $17,300 -$10,600 -$14,800

From Wolff (2012); only mean figures are available, not medians. Note that income and wealth are separate measures; so, for example, the top 1% of income-earners is not exactly the same group of people as the top 1% of wealth-holders, although there is considerable overlap.
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Old 16 July 2014, 08:25 AM   #129
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I learned from lending my brother-in-law money, that I should always consider any money "lent" to relatives as a gift. I never have any expectation of seeing the money ever again, no matter how much they promise about paying us back. Makes it easier for me to mentally accept it when they never pay a dime back.
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Old 16 July 2014, 08:28 AM   #130
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Old 16 July 2014, 08:52 AM   #131
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This is from an article about wealth in America. I don't know if it is accurate. The table did not copy, but you can figure out the columns:

"Exactly how rich are the Top 1%?

People often wonder exactly how much income and/or wealth someone needs to have to be included in the Top 1% or the Top 20%; Table 1 below lists some absolute dollar amounts associated with various income and wealth classes, but the important point to keep in mind is that for the most part, it's the relative positions of wealth holders and income earners that we are trying to comprehend in this document.

Table 1: Income, net worth, and financial worth in the U.S. by percentile, in 2010 dollars
Wealth or income class:

First number: Mean household income. Second number: Mean household net worth Third number: Mean household financial (non-home) wealth

Top 1 percent $1,318,200 $16,439,400 $15,171,600
Top 20 percent $226,200 $2,061,600 $1,719,800
60th-80th percentile $72,000 $216,900 $100,700
40th-60th percentile $41,700 $61,000 $12,200
Bottom 40 percent $17,300 -$10,600 -$14,800

From Wolff (2012); only mean figures are available, not medians. Note that income and wealth are separate measures; so, for example, the top 1% of income-earners is not exactly the same group of people as the top 1% of wealth-holders, although there is considerable overlap.
i'd say mean figures (as a measurement to define the rich) are fairly useless since the billionaires screw up the average. iirc, entry point into top 1% is ~$5million net worth
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Old 16 July 2014, 11:06 AM   #132
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Anywhere from $0 to $100B. Depends on what you value.
Truth. My background is blue collar; not moneratirly rich by any stretch of the imagination. I'm a retired member of the most powerful maritime union on the planet. My home and cars are paid for. I've generous retirement benefits with full medical, dental and $1.00 deductible on all prescriptions, brand name or generic. I consider myself a very fortunate man.
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Old 16 July 2014, 11:16 AM   #133
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Truth. My background is blue collar; not moneratirly rich by any stretch of the imagination. I'm a retired member of the most powerful maritime union on the planet. My home and cars are paid for. I've generous retirement benefits with full medical, dental and $1.00 deductible on all prescriptions, brand name or generic. I consider myself a very fortunate man.
I agree with you 100 percent my friend :)
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Old 16 July 2014, 11:21 AM   #134
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I would have never talked to that Ahole again or let him in my house, I also would not have known him since 69 would have let that friendship go a loooong time ago.

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Old 16 July 2014, 11:22 AM   #135
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My wife rolls her eyes. I stopped telling her about new watches. Every now and then she'll notice one and ask if it's new, but if she doesn't ask, I don't tell.


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Old 16 July 2014, 11:27 AM   #136
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I dread my wife's family get-together every summer. The trouble begins when we sit down for dinner and my two brothers-in-law begin broadcasting to all in attendance how much they thought I paid for my Rolex watch. It only goes downhill from there. (I never drive my Porsche there anymore after my brother-in-law thought it was funny to fart in my new car; he is 45 years old) anyway, I wondered if I was the only one to endure such beaver poo?

Sounds like someone needs an a@& whooping. Don't underestimate (or abuse) the persuasive nature of violence. I'm not an advocate, but it has it's place.


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Old 16 July 2014, 11:32 AM   #137
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Oh dear this is going to be one of those threads. Me really like reading the responses :) and the creativity that ensues. As for me my family respects I love Rolexes and are astute enough to understand they hold value extremely well. All my family are Antique Road Show watchers. They've seen the Patek Philippe watches appear and be valued something ridiculous. Mom agrees a Patek would be a hell of a nice midlife purchase

Now for the joker farting in the Porsche all I can say OP is you showed amazing restraint not punching him in the face. I'd be less offended if he lit a cigarette in my BMW but farting is just plain over the top
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Old 16 July 2014, 11:39 AM   #138
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Old 16 July 2014, 11:41 AM   #139
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Old 16 July 2014, 11:43 AM   #140
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Old 16 July 2014, 12:03 PM   #141
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What's with these threads lately. I frequent Porsche forums and on two of them there were posts of have you been ridiculed or feel awkward driving a Porsche, or How do you respond when asked how much did that car cost. I'm kind of tired of these threads and how many people really ask?
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Old 16 July 2014, 12:12 PM   #142
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Don't say a word about the watch after you've bought it. If they happen to notice and ask questions, give them a non-answer or dismiss the questions right off....you're a grown a$$ person and ought not be treated like a child. My 2c.

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Old 16 July 2014, 12:45 PM   #143
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I was in a training course a few months ago when I complemented one of the instructors on his two-tone GMT. He bought it as a gift to himself after he retired with 30 years with the same company and was striking out on his own as a contractor. He said most of his friends bought themselves boats that they could only enjoy when the weather permitted and gave them constant headaches, but he wore his Rolex everyday and needs a service once every few years.

As a few others have said, everybody spends their money on something they valve.
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Old 16 July 2014, 01:04 PM   #144
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After reading this thread I have a question. What is the bare minimum net worth that a person must have, to be called wealthy?

I ask the question out of curiosity over people's perception of wealth. Give me a number.
Once you no longer have to do your own laundry = wealth.

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Old 16 July 2014, 01:30 PM   #145
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What's with these threads lately. I frequent Porsche forums and on two of them there were posts of have you been ridiculed or feel awkward driving a Porsche, or How do you respond when asked how much did that car cost. I'm kind of tired of these threads and how many people really ask?
I had one man yell f you and your dad for buying you that as I was exiting a parking lot with the windows down, bs of course as I bought my 991 with my own money.

I had a guy approach me last weekend in a bar parking lot out of nowhere and start asking how much it costs. I ignored him and he started guessing and asking if he was close. I'm guessing he was drunk and high. Mind you this was at a Dave and busters! Just stopping in for a beer jeez!

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Old 16 July 2014, 01:49 PM   #146
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1 million is enough to get started. beyond that it's just more stuff, bigger houses, nicer hotels and vacations etc. if you know what you're doing, $1million is enough f-you-money
I'd easily settle for half that money.
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Old 16 July 2014, 01:58 PM   #147
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Not sure, as much as I do agree 1 million is enough
but the phrase and meaning of "wealthy" for me is
You have so much, your kids are financially set, and so are your grand kids
and all the way to great great great great grand kids
My dad told me wealthy is when you make money while you're sleeping.
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Does sleeping on the job count?
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