Real or not?

[springer]

I would add that there is no way anyone call make a call on this watch based on that one photo. Bracelet is genuine USA with genuine end links. I definitely would not call the watch "fake" based on this photo.

My best advice is - if someone here is looking to buy it, ask for some better photos from the seller.

EDIT: Edited to add the end links are genuine.

[GLADIATOR]

Originally Posted by springer

i would add that there is no way anyone call make a call on this watch based on that one photo. Bracelet is genuine usa with aftermarket end links. I definitely would not call the watch "fake" based on this photo.

My best advice is - if someone here is looking to buy it, ask for some better photos from the seller.

agreed

[freefly]

Originally Posted by springer

Bracelet is genuine USA with aftermarket end links.

This is the only point I'd disagree with you on. As mentioned above, the end-links look fine to me, just like every other 13mm USA/JB Jubilee bracelet I've seen.

Originally Posted by springer

I definitely would not call the watch "fake" based on this photo.

That's really the bottom line here.

[Knappo 1307]

David and Eric, you guys are a true asset. Thank you for your knowledge...

[springer]

Originally Posted by freefly

This is the only point I'd disagree with you on. As mentioned above, the end-links look fine to me, just like every other 13mm USA/JB Jubilee bracelet I've seen.

That's really the bottom line here.

I just checked a couple of my vintage USA ladies Jubilee bracelets in my parts bin and as FREEFLY mentioned, the end links are genuine - my mistake for posting incorrectly in my last post.

I thought they should have the spring bar notches like the end links found on the men's USA Jubilee bracelets but I was incorrect and apologize for the confusion.

Again, the bracelet and end links appear 100% legit to me, especially when comparing them to other known genuine bracelets.

[Flywheel]

Originally Posted by freefly

Sorry, going to have to go against the grain AGAIN here.

End links look fine to me (yes, including the lines on the bottom sides).
Just like every other 13mm Rolex "USA" (JB Champion) Jubilee style bracelet I've seen.

Even if it's real, the endlinks still look terrible.

[belligero]

Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

That's fine.
I understand.

One point I am NOT "a self proclaimed expert" - I NEVER profess that indeed, I do not allow anyone to state I am an "expert" - if you do some research you will find that out.
I surely teach Identifying the Luxury from the Fake, and I believe NO one will buy a fake after my course (and none have)
That said, I may allow a genuine to walk by.

Thanks, I am out of this topic
A

Nice to see that you do actually acknowledge your lack of expertise.

You've repeatedly demonstrated a fundamental lack of competency by misidentifying fake watches as real, and real watches as fake.

These frequent blunders give no confidence that the courses are any more credible than the poorly-informed guesses and faulty assumptions you post on forums.

[MVP]

Originally Posted by belligero

Nice to see that you do actually acknowledge your lack of expertise.

You've repeatedly demonstrated a fundamental lack of competency by misidentifying fake watches as real, and real watches as fake.

These frequent blunders give no confidence that the courses are any more credible than the poorly-informed guesses and faulty assumptions you post on forums.

Lol, you're really out to get GLADIATOR today (referring also to the "you'd have to be thick" comment in the daytona thread). He's helped a lot of people I would imagine.