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Old 17 January 2007, 03:21 AM   #31
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When I was twelve, i bought a fake rolex for about 400USD.
This was the age I started making some coin and putting my brain to good use
By the time I was 16, I had it with the fakes. I wanted the real thing.
You know why?
Accomplishment

If I had only accomplished enough to buy a fake I belittled my achievements.
So I plunked down over 14k for a day-date (which i flipped a month later for a profit), and that was the best feeling, upgrading from fake to real.
Then, after a bunch of high end watches i bought my first AD bought rolex in august. August 17th. That was the pinnacle of my watch collecting.
Its all about success. You buy a watch to make yourself feel good as youve obviously been successful (or you wouldnt be able to even dream of affording one). Buy a fake if you cant afford it, who the hell cares. If its a decent one i couldnt tell the difference and i have sharp eyes! But at the end of the day only YOU know whats on your wrist.
buying a rolex is a status symbol or sentiments. Neither of which you want to soil
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Old 17 January 2007, 03:23 AM   #32
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But at the end of the day only YOU know whats on your wrist.
That statement just about SUMS it all up, Aadil !!
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Old 17 January 2007, 03:31 AM   #33
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He himself knows about all of the fake rolexs and how good the Fakes could be. So he asked me "What's the point in buying a real rolex if the fake ones work just as well?"
to each his own, if you're happy with a fake rolex i don't see why you need a real one. i just want to own a rolex, nothing more to it. if i'm not going to own a real one i don't see why i need a fake.
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Old 17 January 2007, 03:44 AM   #34
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Its all about success. You buy a watch to make yourself feel good as youve obviously been successful But at the end of the day only YOU know whats on your wrist.
I totally agree. You buy a Rolex because you deserve it, you´ve worked hard for it and you wear it just for yourself. Not for the others. That´s why you buy o real one.

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Buying a rolex is an investment.. you can also say it's a heirloom or inheritance to your children and so on compared to a fake which is pretty much worthless!
I second that....
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Old 17 January 2007, 03:59 AM   #35
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Bottom line you pay for what you get. If you want to just look cool for a month or two go buy a fake, if you want to have something with value that you can literally have for generations, go pay for the real thing. I intend on handing down my watch to my kid one day and its something I would be proud of. (and of course the peace of mind knowing my rolex will still be ticking long after I stop ticking)
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Old 17 January 2007, 04:03 AM   #36
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(and of course the peace of mind knowing my rolex will still be ticking long after I stop ticking)
I'm on Rolex #18 and I've so far outlived them all!!
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Old 17 January 2007, 04:09 AM   #37
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I have 2 points;

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4. It says very little about the individual who will proudly wear a fake as a real Rolex.
Actually it speaks volumes about their character (or lack of it).

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so... is it okay, if i wear a folex and tell people it is a folex, nothing more?
just another philosophical question... in theory, i'm not overselling myself... ha ha...
ponder ponder ponder...
The sole reason I'm not okay with this is because you paid them for it... by paying into the fake rolex market you'd be supporting it. Now if you bought it with counterfeit funds... hmmm. Therein lies the rub...
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Old 17 January 2007, 04:10 AM   #38
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lol JJ...I assume they are all still ticking.... wherever they are
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Old 17 January 2007, 04:15 AM   #39
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lol JJ...I assume they are all still ticking.... wherever they are
May numbers 1 to 16 rest in peace. I'm currently on #17 and 18!!
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Old 17 January 2007, 05:22 AM   #40
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Isn't the bottom line really why would you wear an item that says it is a certain product when you know its a fake?

Seems to me that the only reason one would is to fool other people into thinking its real.

If you're willing to buy and wear a counterfeit item simply because you want an item that has the name of whichever designer/manufacturer you like then you don't really care about the actual product, you care about what people think of you when they assume you are wearing the actual product.

So what does that say about the person who wants to fool people into thinking that they are wealthier / classier / more important / more discriminating/ 'better' (whatever it is they think the product's name connotes) than they perceive themselves to be?

If you like the fake item that has the 'name' on it but is not genuine, there are plenty of other makes and models out there to buy that are just as nice looking and do a very serviceable job and don't take advantage of another company's good name.
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Old 17 January 2007, 05:47 AM   #41
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Why buy a Rolex ? Its expensive,it takes a good few $$s of your hard earned money,yet,it holds a large amount of its value,too.Yearning for it and waiting for it, makes it even more special.Its a true symbol of quality in a world of instant gratification.Its a thing of beauty,a damn fine watch.Its timeless in its design,not many things in life are...Its got history,it survived the quartz onslaught of the 70s,its family owned,it started of with ideas of one individual,more than 100 years ago ..

If, by any means ,you buy a Rolex to impress other people,then you are missing the point.... You have to impress yourself.I got a kick out of wearing my GMT,every day,for nearly 6 years.To me, it was special.

I have the utmost respect for people who do not feel the same way we feel about Rolex,its their honest opinion,thats real.No problem
I do however have no time for someone who willingly buys a fake.These people will be dishonest with other aspects in life.If they cheat with that,they will cheat in life.A dishonest character,per defenition .... When I couldnt afford a Rolex I wore REAL Citizens,Seikos and Timex's.
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Old 17 January 2007, 05:47 AM   #42
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Let's punk this up a notch!

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Old 17 January 2007, 06:38 AM   #43
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I think all points have been covered here.

Here's my 0.2 cents.

Folex also do not have the durability that genuine watches have. The QC on these are just horrible. I'm ashamed to say that I bought a fake Rolex a while back and the 12 hour marker fell off when I was playing a sport. From this point on, in addition to the other points that were made, durability and reliability simply comes to mind.

You also buy the watch or a Rolex specifically cause you like it, and not because you want others to like you or to feel part of a club.
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Old 17 January 2007, 07:13 AM   #44
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Folks find it funny that I think $40 for shoes is too much, but $4000 for a watch means something is missing. :-) I personally do not care about shoes is all, like some folks spend $300 on shoes and don't care about watches.
and some people (author included) spend 5K on a watch and not care that they drive a 10 year old Lexus... Hell, it's driving the Lexus for 10 years that allowed me the opportunity to save the cash to buy the Rolex. No mid life crisis here...
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Old 17 January 2007, 07:42 AM   #45
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Ethics and morals aside... this bothers me.

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"What's the point in buying a real rolex if the fake ones work just as well?" I mean the fakes still have swiss movement in them and they're not BAD watches by any means.
Your friend is mistaken... They don't work just as well...

None of the fakes can handle the same depths. I looked at a couple of web sites and they actually recommend not diving with their watches. They say they're waterproof enough for wearing in the shower or for swimming in a pool... but that's all they'll handle.
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Old 17 January 2007, 07:44 AM   #46
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. I didnt know how to respond to this question because I just love rolexs... and if someone showed me a fake rolex and i just glanced at it i probably wouldnt be able to tell the difference.

what is your view on this? and how would you respond to a question like this?
Once you are a true Rolex enthusiant both the fake watch and the equally fake wear stand out like a sore thumb.

That fake College degree he bought for $100 - BAD

That lady he took out for a $100 meal only to find out that she had a hairy arse and an adams apple the size of a golf ball - FAKE woman - BAD.

That fake Rolex he paid $1,000 for that cost $2.25 to produce and is now running anti clockwise - BAD.

FAKE = BAD.
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Old 17 January 2007, 10:19 AM   #47
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and some people (author included) spend 5K on a watch and not care that they drive a 10 year old Lexus... Hell, it's driving the Lexus for 10 years that allowed me the opportunity to save the cash to buy the Rolex. No mid life crisis here...
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Amen, Mike. I think this whole thing of the-car-must-match-the-watch-must-match-the-house is missing the big picture here. Why bother buying a Rolex? Because you can and you want to. If you can afford to buy a Maybach but want to drive a Civic, I think it says more about your character if you don't give in to the "ooh, ooh, I got the cash so I have to get the Maybach" mindset. I've known multi-millionaires in the construction industry who still happily drive around in beat-up trucks, and readily give the flick to anybody who treats them like they're rich. No nouveau-riche rubbish for these guys.

I remember an incident years ago in Singapore. I was having dinner at an open-air restaurant, and nearby was this diner dressed up to the nines in the stifling heat, constantly looking around to make sure that people had noticed the Lotus Esprit that he had double-parked right in front of the restaurant. Half an hour later, another bloke rocked up in a brand new (at the time) Ferrari 348. He hopped out dressed in shorts, a ratty T-shirt and cheap rubber flip-flops, tossed the keys to the valet and told him to stick the car in a hidden corner, and then happily sat down to eat. Just like that, Lotus boy got ever-so-casually blown away by a guy who chose not to do the whole kit and caboodle.

It's not just about having the freedom to do something - it's also about having the freedom to choose not to do something.
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Old 17 January 2007, 10:26 AM   #48
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Give me a break..who actually knows for a fact that another guy or gal is wearing a folex??
If I were to hazard a guess, quite a few people on this forum.
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Old 17 January 2007, 10:38 AM   #49
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There is nothing wrong with a Honda Civic. I am just saying you can buy whatever you want to. Personally, I would not buy a $9500 Rolex Daytona then jump into a Honda Civic as my only transportation. For me, I feel you work hard and want to achieve some status in life. I would not max out my credit cards to buy a $10,000 Day Date and then go drive off in a 1985 Volvo. People do that, but I feel success takes time.
Okay, lest there be any misunderstanding, let's just clarify that you're talking about car pricing in the US. The price of a Civic in Singapore could get you at least a BMW 330 stateside, so it's good to keep that in mind when making judgements. Even better, don't make a judgement at all.
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Old 17 January 2007, 11:12 AM   #50
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There is nothing wrong with a Honda Civic. I am just saying you can buy whatever you want to. Personally, I would not buy a $9500 Rolex Daytona then jump into a Honda Civic as my only transportation. For me, I feel you work hard and want to achieve some status in life. I would not max out my credit cards to buy a $10,000 Day Date and then go drive off in a 1985 Volvo. People do that, but I feel success takes time.
If i may disagree to this one point... Well... I may have specail interest in watches but not in cars.. hence i may be buying really nice and expensive watches but find zooming around in a porche a waste of money....

It is really different strokes for different folks... In Singapore, most of us do not have a car even. And houses are so expensive, a small little apartment will easily cost your close to a million. So it is certainly easier to buy a $20,000 rolex, then a car or a house...

What you have does not measure success... to me success is having what you want... and not owe anything to the bank. Success is not something that is comparative, but more something that is an achievement.

What we have, compared to some poor folks down in the slum in philippines could mean success. but if the forbes list of rich people looks at us... we probably look just slightly better than the poor folks at the slums.
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I agree to that completely. I drive a regular Nissan Altima and have a number of great time pieces but don't seem to be interested in purchasing luxury vehicles.

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If i may disagree to this one point... Well... I may have specail interest in watches but not in cars.. hence i may be buying really nice and expensive watches but find zooming around in a porche a waste of money....

It is really different strokes for different folks... In Singapore, most of us do not have a car even. And houses are so expensive, a small little apartment will easily cost your close to a million. So it is certainly easier to buy a $20,000 rolex, then a car or a house...

What you have does not measure success... to me success is having what you want... and not owe anything to the bank. Success is not something that is comparative, but more something that is an achievement.

What we have, compared to some poor folks down in the slum in philippines could mean success. but if the forbes list of rich people looks at us... we probably look just slightly better than the poor folks at the slums.
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I won't re-paste what Henry just said cause Vernon has it right above this reply... but it's perfectly said...

And I've seen "old smokey"* in the Philippines.

*literally a mountain made up of garbage that people actually live on.
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I acquired the Rolex disease by way of a potential client who gave me a fake YG DD because he wanted me to help him find a country where he could turn them out without Rolex suing him for copyright and TM infringement. I decided against the representation but I kept the watch. I started comparing it to the real thing and let me tell you, it was a damned good fake. It even fooled the jeweler I took it to to have the bracelet sized.

I think I wore the watch twice before I couldn't do it anymore. Knowing it was a fake made me cringe with embarassment when I put it on.

The end result was that I started looking around at the real things and got totally hooked. The rest is history.

But I still keep the fake around to remind me of what started this addiction.
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Old 17 January 2007, 01:26 PM   #54
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Rockrolex, i went thru the same thing with a fake sub date and it had a quartz movement. I had to get thru the fakes with battery movements before I got lucky enough to get a fake with auto movement I think its nature to compare fakes to real and real to other real
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Old 17 January 2007, 01:27 PM   #55
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But I still keep the fake around to remind me of what started this addiction.
and is it still working ...?...:)
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Rockrolex, i went thru the same thing with a fake sub date and it had a quartz movement. I had to get thru the fakes with battery movements before I got lucky enough to get a fake with auto movement I think its nature to compare fakes to real and real to other real
So you went through a string of fakes before you finally got the real thing?
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Old 17 January 2007, 01:33 PM   #57
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Yes, Of course, I was in high school and my parents gave me an allowance.
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Old 17 January 2007, 01:35 PM   #58
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Ah. Nuff said.
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Old 17 January 2007, 01:38 PM   #59
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fake is usually associated with wrong, cheating decieving hypocracy, wearing a different skin, life is too short, and much more preciouse to be wasted in such activities, its great to be alike ... a...perfect circle,

and it is wrong to steal years of research and development by rolex . basic copy rights !!!
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I think some of you guys taking this fake stuff to the extreme. When I was 15 and 16 years old the flea market was full of everything you could dream of. I didn't have a credit card. There were people offering all kinds of cool stuff. Everybody starts somewhere.
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