need to vent, why do some vintage sellers do this?

[CaveDiver]

Originally Posted by SubKing

Thanks and I have 3 of them but I prefer to use better quality tools then that when doing anything on a 12k watch.

I use case knives when doing batt changes on swatch watches

Glad I don't send my watches to you for service.

Poor taste coming on my thread arguing fact with fiction

Who do you use that uses the tools you like?

[slcbbrown]

Originally Posted by gtb5

I haven't really seen crystal being taken off at all on ebay??

I've seen sellers do it, occasionally, but never on a Rolex.

[SubKing]

Originally Posted by CaveDiver

Who do you use that uses the tools you like?

For my vintage? I use the one and only bob ridley

[CaveDiver]

Originally Posted by SubKing

For my vintage? I use the one and only bob ridley

Strange then, I'm not sure what he uses to remove the crystal retaining ring but I do know for a fact:
Way back when I was going to remove my 5512 bezel myself and saw folks using the case back opener tool or a pocket knife, I decided I will wait until I go see Bob and let him remove it so I can get a picture of the back of the bezel. I figured he would have some fancy do-dad that would use four points of contact to lift the bezel. Nope, he used a Rolex blade. Either a Rolex branded case back knife or Rolex branded pocket knife. And nope, no covering of the case or what not to protect it from any scratching.
The tool he used was like the one closest to you here:

[TurboWatch]

Originally Posted by CaveDiver

Strange then, I'm not sure what he uses to remove the crystal retaining ring but I do know for a fact:
Way back when I was going to remove my 5512 bezel myself and saw folks using the case back opener tool or a pocket knife, I decided I will wait until I go see Bob and let him remove it so I can get a picture of the back of the bezel. I figured he would have some fancy do-dad that would use four points of contact to lift the bezel. Nope, he used a Rolex blade. Either a Rolex branded case back knife or Rolex branded pocket knife. And nope, no covering of the case or what not to protect it from any scratching.
The tool he used was like the one closest to you here:

[TurboWatch]

Originally Posted by SubKing

Thanks and I have 3 of them but I prefer to use better quality tools then that when doing anything on a 12k watch.

I use case knives when doing batt changes on swatch watches

Glad I don't send my watches to you for service.

Poor taste coming on my thread arguing fact with fiction

even if you give me another $12K to do it .

You know why? 'cause I am no watchmaker.

Why do you have to be so hostile?

I thought this site is for members to participate and constructively argue/debate based on Facts and not Fictions, and I am just representing the facts.

My apologies if you feel that I am here to attack you, but I merely pointed out there are tools out there for the watch repair trade. Any bona fide watchmakers or resellers know better not to use the wrong kind of tools on these little jems.

BTW: based on what that you came to the conclusion that a screw driver was used? Your logic just does not make sense. By not using the right tool, these people not only risk their reputations, they could potentially kiss hundreds if not thousands of their profit goodbye. The caseknive that Jed is talking about is a cheap standard tool found in every watchmaker and vintage reseller's tool box. The way they are made, from the handle to the blade, gives you much better control, hence less likely to damage anything, than even the thinnest flat head screwdriver.

[HL65]

Tom--If you were a watchmaker I would send my watches to you!! I also agree with you 100%--sorry Subking--even Bob Ridley uses them and you will find one on probably every watchmaker's desk or toolbag. Also--no need to attack one with a differing opinion than you--especially one like Tom who knows more than pretty much anyone I know in the vintage watch game-and has taught me a lot over the years!! So--no hostility--play nice and enjoy your watches!