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Old 29 April 2018, 11:15 AM   #31
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Am I the only one not really interested in this watch???
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Old 29 April 2018, 11:28 AM   #32
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The Pepsi will be long forgotten about when the new Submariner is released in 2019. Might as well try to get on that list now.


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That's a possibility. Would an AD typically start such a list during or after Baselworld, when the model and price of the watch are announced? The only thing is I really liked the WG BLRO that they had at the AD, so I still would prefer an SS BLRO. It's a watch you really must see in person.

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Doesn't sound too bad. Assuming an average person wanting a Pepsi puts their name down at 4 places, the true list would only be about 18, which would take 18 months if they get one a month. Surely this is about the norm for a popular new release?
Smart reply. I wonder what others think about this.
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Old 29 April 2018, 11:55 AM   #33
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At AD, I'm behind 70+ people for SS BLRO

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After my recent experience with my AD and others, in my opinion most are generally full of $hit. They are not beyond lieing, conniving and using product availability to exploit their customers relationships. I will never buy from a Rolex AD ever again.


A friend of mine works at a small Rolex AD. He told me that they always have stainless steel models in the back and never put them in the cases anymore.

So when you walk in and ask for a SS piece, you get the nonsense of the 5 page long waiting list.

It’s a way to create demand by artificially limiting supply and avoiding you asking for any discounts.

Then you get a few people that actually believe this BS and buy a PM piece (or 2) to get a SS piece.

If these pieces were so scarce, why is it that every grey has at least one listed at all times and why is it there are so many for sale on this forum by flippers who list them the same day they get them from an AD?

Here is another question, if you are not a fan of a certain “hot” watch, let’s say a BLNR, but you walk in and find one in the case at an airport AD, aren’t you going to buy it (or at least consider) to flip?


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Old 29 April 2018, 11:57 AM   #34
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Thats when you bring your friends into the conversation to bring the #70 down...Like Oh look its our friend Mr Andrew Jackson...And Mr Abraham Lincoln.
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Old 29 April 2018, 12:04 PM   #35
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Am I the only one not really interested in this watch???
Nope. Jubilee haters club.
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Old 29 April 2018, 12:10 PM   #36
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Old 29 April 2018, 12:22 PM   #37
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Out of 70, at least 60 will be pure flippers, so that's why Rolex need to weed them out no matter how.
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Old 29 April 2018, 12:44 PM   #38
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Out of 70, at least 60 will be pure flippers, so that's why Rolex need to weed them out no matter how.
Rolex could easily do this by funding purchases from the major gray market dealers and then blacklist the dealers who have too much inventory going to the grays. That way ADs would know they need to exercise sound judgement when selling (i.e. to try to not sell to flippers), and not sell to grays directly themselves.

Obviously ADs can never be 100% sure a sale isn't going to be flipped to a gray dealers and some of these sales will still slip through the net, but ADs would be much more cautious if they knew rolex were actively policing the gray market and holding dealers responsible.

Rolex could then sell the stock they purchase from the grays to rolex staff at a reduced price.
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Old 29 April 2018, 12:49 PM   #39
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According to my AD, I'm #18 for SS BLRO....
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Old 29 April 2018, 12:50 PM   #40
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There is no list.
For a number of reasons, I think there's plenty of truth to this...
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Old 29 April 2018, 01:10 PM   #41
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Nope. I’m right there with you. Watch looks fine, just doesn’t interest me in the least.


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Old 29 April 2018, 02:20 PM   #42
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I'd rather have a 16710 BLRO.
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Old 29 April 2018, 04:22 PM   #43
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If any AD told me '70th on the list' I would 100% chalk that up as they didn't want my business. Look elsewhere.
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Old 29 April 2018, 06:49 PM   #44
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I visited an AD today to ask about the new SS Pepsi. I put myself on the waiting list and was later told there are more than 70 people ahead of me. The salesperson said it could take a few years -- or longer -- before I have a chance to purchase it from them.

I know I'm probably late to the game on this watch, but is this normal?
The Ad will get 6 per year,,,.?
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Old 29 April 2018, 07:17 PM   #45
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Old 29 April 2018, 07:19 PM   #46
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Nope. I’m right there with you. Watch looks fine, just doesn’t interest me in the least.


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That’s it exactly with me. I actually like it on a jubilee, and it’s a smart looking watch. I just have zero interest in buying one. I have a 16700BLRO and a 16710 with a red/black insert. I also have a NOS BLRO insert just waiting to be installed on something.

The ceramic BLRO is nice, but I have zero interest in “upgrading”
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Old 29 April 2018, 11:56 PM   #47
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Am I the only one not really interested in this watch???
Not at all, me neither. Does nothing for me. It's nice but I couldn't bring myself to give up $9.5k for it assuming it was just sitting in the shop. I prefer the BLNR for a GMT.
This is just the new thing...get your IG likes up. Post vids on youtube, resell for more money, bragging rights. It's different owning something nice today. An LV wallet isnt "cool enuff" unless it says Supreme on it. Does that even really look good, not to me.

I feel a very small percentage of Rolex fans who don't have any social media accounts to update will actually buy this to enjoy for real personal preference.

It's a nice looking watch just not something I could own unless I was a super rich collector, ie John Mayer.
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Old 30 April 2018, 12:12 AM   #48
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Am I the only one not really interested in this watch???
No. I don't like the feeling that maybe I'm being "worked". There are a lot of watches and a lot of watchmakers.
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Old 30 April 2018, 12:33 AM   #49
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Old 30 April 2018, 12:40 AM   #50
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Am I the only one not really interested in this watch???
No, you are not alone. In my opinion it seems like people are getting too caught up in Rolex scarcity hysteria and will jump on a list just because they can get on a list, and because they may want to preserve the ability to buy the watch, if they do like it.
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Old 30 April 2018, 12:47 AM   #51
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I doubt they have a list that long, but who knows.
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Old 30 April 2018, 12:50 AM   #53
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Rolex could easily do this by funding purchases from the major gray market dealers and then blacklist the dealers who have too much inventory going to the grays. That way ADs would know they need to exercise sound judgement when selling (i.e. to try to not sell to flippers), and not sell to grays directly themselves.

Obviously ADs can never be 100% sure a sale isn't going to be flipped to a gray dealers and some of these sales will still slip through the net, but ADs would be much more cautious if they knew rolex were actively policing the gray market and holding dealers responsible.

Rolex could then sell the stock they purchase from the grays to rolex staff at a reduced price.
Yes Rolex UK have been actively finding grey watches and tracing sales back to ADs and reprimanding them so here that practice has mostly stopped, unless they have both agreed to bundling DJ and PM sales, which means greys will still be fed.

However the main issue is even regular customers and VIPs get these watches and then flip once the aura of the new must have watch wears off as the price is too good to resist for one you don't truly love.

That is why Rolex are taking this out of AD's hands by withholding warranty cards and maybe tattooing the back so only true buyers will buy.
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Old 30 April 2018, 12:57 AM   #54
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Not at all, me neither. Does nothing for me. It's nice but I couldn't bring myself to give up $9.5k for it assuming it was just sitting in the shop. I prefer the BLNR for a GMT.
This is just the new thing...get your IG likes up. Post vids on youtube, resell for more money, bragging rights. It's different owning something nice today. An LV wallet isnt "cool enuff" unless it says Supreme on it. Does that even really look good, not to me.

I feel a very small percentage of Rolex fans who don't have any social media accounts to update will actually buy this to enjoy for real personal preference.

It's a nice looking watch just not something I could own unless I was a super rich collector, ie John Mayer.
That's a very interesting perspective. I guess I hadn't thought of that. Maybe I am the weird one out.......but I kinda hate social media. I don't really participate at all.......I tried IG, but I didn't get the point. I have a FB account, but it is inactive essentially.
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Old 30 April 2018, 01:34 AM   #55
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nope..count me in. I'm not interested.

I think 60 out of the 70 people on the list are flipping it
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Old 30 April 2018, 01:40 AM   #56
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I can see the warranty cards being held on every sale in the U.K. VIP or not. At least I hope so. I would hate to see this reference being sold by the likes of WF for mega bucks.
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Old 30 April 2018, 01:46 AM   #57
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I can see the warranty cards being held on every sale in the U.K. VIP or not. At least I hope so. I would hate to see this reference being sold by the likes of WF for mega bucks.
Agree 100%......you just know the first ones will be £12k
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Old 30 April 2018, 02:03 AM   #58
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No, count me in as well.
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Old 30 April 2018, 02:04 AM   #59
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I visited an AD today to ask about the new SS Pepsi. I put myself on the waiting list and was later told there are more than 70 people ahead of me. The salesperson said it could take a few years -- or longer -- before I have a chance to purchase it from them.

I know I'm probably late to the game on this watch, but is this normal?
Just get yourself a 16710 and be done with it!
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70 people, yeah right. Total BS, go elsewhere.
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