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vistec · 5 October 2019, 10:51 PM

Fantastic work sir. Thank you for sharing!

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whited3 · 5 October 2019, 10:52 PM

Meshing of the playless teeth is my favorite part of these photos! Where in the drivetrain is this feature employed?

@77T

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This segment in one of those gears seems to have a larger gap. Why is that?

The gap is the same to my eyes after some scrutiny. But I'm curious like you why the difference at that point. Is that a point where the playless gears interface with another part?

KBM · 5 October 2019, 11:05 PM

Another great one from Bas.

SearChart · 5 October 2019, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 77T

Glad the dust was removed in reassembly - and this filament?

2 quick questions about the “playless” gears...

Are the shapes in both gears composed of thin strips of spring steel that mesh perfectly?

This segment in one of those gears seems to have a larger gap. Why is that?

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That filament is what I was pointing out, it didn't make it into the movement

The larger 'gap' is for lining up the chronograph seconds gear and the clutch wheel.

The thin strips are indeed spring steel, to eliminate gear play.

77T · 5 October 2019, 11:50 PM

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Wahlberg · 6 October 2019, 12:06 AM

I love the (slightly) beat up look of the daytona.

Did you polish it or remained as is?

Watch Rob · 6 October 2019, 12:12 AM

So cool!

Eatapp · 6 October 2019, 12:13 AM

Wow! Thanks!!

THC · 6 October 2019, 12:17 AM

Excellent post, thanks

Bas is a Boss

Toony · 6 October 2019, 12:28 AM

Great stuff. Thanks

Calatrava r · 6 October 2019, 12:34 AM

Is that normal that the driving wheel for the ratchet is worn to shreds? What causes that, was the watch repeatedly manually wound?

RichM · 6 October 2019, 12:45 AM

Great photographs.

Thanks so much for taking us along.

Can’t wait to see the finished product.

Meyrin · 6 October 2019, 12:52 AM

Beautiful photos here, very interesting! I love seeing all the parts of a dismantled watch movement, even though I don't understand anything!

Investr · 6 October 2019, 12:53 AM

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Very cool and refreshing thread.

Amen!!!

BobDyl · 6 October 2019, 01:00 AM

Thanks Bas for another great post. 4130 is a killer movement, so compact! It's an underappreciated marvel imo. Hopefully this is not hijacking, but I've attached a pic of a 4130 from my 116520 during a LAWW service.

SLS · 6 October 2019, 01:00 AM

Very cool, I always enjoy these posts from you. Thanks

SearChart · 6 October 2019, 01:09 AM

Cheers guys

I'll post some before & after pics of polishing next week.

SearChart · 6 October 2019, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Calatrava r

Is that normal that the driving wheel for the ratchet is worn to shreds? What causes that, was the watch repeatedly manually wound?

It is pretty common actually, just from regular wear & tear.

2001jesper · 6 October 2019, 01:28 AM

Thanks for sharing Bas

Excited to see the before and after

brigadoonb · 6 October 2019, 01:40 AM

Love threads like this. Wish we had more of these and I also wish I could learn how to do this myself. Thanks for sharing the process!

pie72 · 6 October 2019, 01:52 AM

Great post, enjoying the pics, can't wait to see more.

77T · 6 October 2019, 02:10 AM

Ruby oiler?

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SearChart · 6 October 2019, 02:13 AM

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Ruby oiler?

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Automatic oiler for shock system chaton. It's only used at the escape wheel contrapivot and in-setting chaton for balance wheel.

kauffee · 6 October 2019, 02:14 AM

Bas, we often read about the 4130 having a “vertical clutch” but I confess that I don’t quite understand what this means. Could you show that part?

Tavli3 · 6 October 2019, 02:25 AM

Very cool thread. Like an episode of How It’s Made.
Wish I knew what I was looking at though!!

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SearChart · 6 October 2019, 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by kauffee

Bas, we often read about the 4130 having a “vertical clutch” but I confess that I don’t quite understand what this means. Could you show that part?

First pic of the second post, that is the clutch wheel.

In a traditional chronograph the clutch works horizontal, by pressing start you move the clutch wheel in between the seconds wheel and the chronograph seconds wheel, this will get it started.
In the 4130 the seconds wheel is not at the same height/level as the chronograph seconds wheel, thus it needs to clutch vertically instead of horizontally to start it.

77T · 6 October 2019, 02:48 AM

So is there a transfer fork that converts the horizontal action of the depressed pusher into the vertical action of the clutch?
(When activating the chrono function)

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Easy E · 6 October 2019, 02:50 AM

Great stuff. Thanks for the threads like this.

Muxi · 6 October 2019, 02:59 AM

My newly-serviced 116509 of that era just had its RSC service 3 months ago. It came back near perfect timekeeping. However, I noticed that after adjusting the time, you need to press the crown twice or thrice to dislodge the time adjust position or else even when the watch starts, winding it will still move the minute hand. I wonder what the RSC missed?

roadie1 · 6 October 2019, 04:28 AM

Great post! Thanks for a good one!

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6 October 2019, 01:00 AM	#45
BobDyl "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: San Francisco Posts: 917	Thanks Bas for another great post. 4130 is a killer movement, so compact! It's an underappreciated marvel imo. Hopefully this is not hijacking, but I've attached a pic of a 4130 from my 116520 during a LAWW service. Attached Images

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SLS "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Scott Location: GMT -7 Watch: GMT's & Sub's Posts: 10,401	Very cool, I always enjoy these posts from you. Thanks __________________ "The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of lower price is forgotten." -Benjamin Franklin Member No. 922

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77T 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 42,013	Ruby oiler? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

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vistec "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: toronto Posts: 259	Fantastic work sir. Thank you for sharing! Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

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KBM 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: K. Location: 780 Posts: 10,460	Another great one from Bas.

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Wahlberg "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Paris Posts: 3,590	I love the (slightly) beat up look of the daytona. Did you polish it or remained as is?

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THC 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Real Name: Tom Location: Mandeville La Watch: 126333 Posts: 10,664	Excellent post, thanks Bas is a Boss

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Toony "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Real Name: Tony Location: Gatchaman Posts: 1,873	Great stuff. Thanks

6 October 2019, 12:34 AM	#41
Calatrava r 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: United States Watch: Rolex and Patek Posts: 11,417	Is that normal that the driving wheel for the ratchet is worn to shreds? What causes that, was the watch repeatedly manually wound?

6 October 2019, 12:52 AM	#43
Meyrin "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Real Name: Ian Location: Hamburg Watch: Sub 14060 Posts: 1,163	Beautiful photos here, very interesting! I love seeing all the parts of a dismantled watch movement, even though I don't understand anything!

6 October 2019, 01:28 AM	#49
2001jesper "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Real Name: Jesper Location: Earth Watch: 116234 Posts: 1,771	Thanks for sharing Bas Excited to see the before and after

6 October 2019, 01:40 AM	#50
brigadoonb "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: USA Watch: Smurf Posts: 431	Love threads like this. Wish we had more of these and I also wish I could learn how to do this myself. Thanks for sharing the process!

6 October 2019, 01:52 AM	#51
pie72 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Pitlochry Watch: 16610lv,16610.. Posts: 61	Great post, enjoying the pics, can't wait to see more.

6 October 2019, 02:14 AM	#54
kauffee 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: Matt Location: Portland, OR Watch: 116610LN, 116500LN Posts: 1,385	Bas, we often read about the 4130 having a “vertical clutch” but I confess that I don’t quite understand what this means. Could you show that part?

6 October 2019, 02:25 AM	#55
Tavli3 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Real Name: Jim Location: miami Watch: GMT II 16760 Posts: 1,676	Very cool thread. Like an episode of How It’s Made. Wish I knew what I was looking at though!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

6 October 2019, 02:48 AM	#57
77T 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 42,013	So is there a transfer fork that converts the horizontal action of the depressed pusher into the vertical action of the clutch? (When activating the chrono function) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

6 October 2019, 02:50 AM	#58
Easy E 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: GA Posts: 5,075	Great stuff. Thanks for the threads like this.

6 October 2019, 02:59 AM	#59
Muxi "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: Philippines Posts: 1,823	My newly-serviced 116509 of that era just had its RSC service 3 months ago. It came back near perfect timekeeping. However, I noticed that after adjusting the time, you need to press the crown twice or thrice to dislodge the time adjust position or else even when the watch starts, winding it will still move the minute hand. I wonder what the RSC missed?

6 October 2019, 04:28 AM	#60
roadie1 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southeast Watch: Divers, GMT Posts: 2,149	Great post! Thanks for a good one!

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