What Current Dog is the Next Hot Seller?

[frankfrazetta]

Albino English Mastif is my first choice here. Unfortunately, I think they might be extinct.

[BT1985]

Originally Posted by frankfrazetta

Albino English Mastif is my first choice here. Unfortunately, I think they might be extinct.

That would make it a past dog then...


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[codecow]

Air King

[bruinmd]

Originally Posted by Generation

Not to highjack this thread, but I'm genuinely curious about Vacheron Constantin being ousted from the Holy Trinity. Are they the least popular of the Holy Trinity? Is there really any chance they could be ousted? I ask because I'm currently deciding between a Rolex and a Vacheron Constantin as my first high-end luxury watch.

Absolutely not...........it's apples and oranges.

Rolex is a luxury brand and VC -- like PP, AP, Lange, GO, etc-- are high end luxury brands that make up a different level of horology.

I love my Rolexes, but to say they will bump VC is flat out delusional.
If any company should/will bump VC, it would be Lange.

[shaunylw]

Originally Posted by SS Oyster

I think Explorer II 42mm could see uptick. It’s never been a dog, but has not been as highly prized.


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Totally agree. I rarely see these in the wild.


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[bruinmd]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

By Lange sure but they are german not swiss... never, ever by Rolex. Its apples and oranges. Rolex is not HH and don't try to be HH. Its a pointless comparison except by Rolex fans who think them not being included is some sort of insult. It isnt.

Brand rankings are subjective as to where they fit in relative to each other within their particular area. HH and non HH is pretty objective though IMO. Patek is, Rolex isnt. Lange is, Rolex isnt... and so on. Whats better Lange or Patek? Thats where the subjective nature comes into play

This

[mml4]

The Yachtmaster (116622) is up in price amongst trusted sellers between six and 800 dollars since last year. It is approaching msrp on the grey market while in the past it was always deeply discounted.
I never considered it a "dog" and don't know if this increase qualifies it as "hot" but it is undeniably on the upswing.

[mjr24]

Originally Posted by shaunylw

Totally agree. I rarely see these in the wild.


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Eh....I don’t think it’s a great looking watch. I tend to think that’s why you don’t see them....

[tquieng]

Rolex seadweller ceramic 116600for sure since 3 year run- very short and pretty watch.
Next is explorer2 if it gets a face lift.

[shaunylw]

Originally Posted by mjr24

Eh....I don’t think it’s a great looking watch. I tend to think that’s why you don’t see them....

Might even be too big. They may have missed the mark on the size.


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[peterpl]

Rolex can never be in the top 3. Their watches are too plain and simple without any complication and even aesthetically their movements look just plain compared to others.

Plus their market is hot high end luxury watches. It is a mass produced product and its for the mass population.

[Justindo]

When the Air King is discontinued (I have no idea when this will be), I think it could be a strong contender. It's both unique and unpopular. I also think the discontinued 40mm Ceramic Sea-Dweller will grow in popularity.

Originally Posted by Generation

I really appreciate the responses to my question about Vacheron Constantin.



It's between the Rolex Datejust 41 with silver or white dial (MSRP: ~$7,500) and the Vacheron Constantin Fiftysix Self-Winding (MSRP: ~$12,000). If anyone can help me decide, that would be nice! I know the Datejust isn't the coolest Rolex out there, but I want to get something I find aesthetically pleasing, too, not just something with investment potential or the "cool" factor.

Vacheron is several levels above Rolex but that particular Vacheron is not really representative of the brand, as it lacks the Geneva Seal and features an unremarkable movement that both Cartier and Piaget use and it is not finished particularly well. Its movement is also on the small side for the watch and, while the watch is handsome overall, the date window looks terrible on it. Now if you were considering the steel Fiftysix Day-Date or Complete Calendar or the Historiques 1942, I would have nothing but praise for the watches. All of these, however, are considerably more expensive than the basic Fiftysix. You might consider looking at JLC's and GO's offerings, which, in my opinion, offer a much better value than the basic Fiftysix.

[Bigblu10]

Originally Posted by Fleetlord

If you support the theory that Rolex is following a strategy of limited distribution, then it could be said that there won't be any "dog" references in the Rolex lineup.

Rising tide floats all boats, if you will.

All Rolex references are desirable and the opportunity to purchase ANY Rolex reference is a truly fortunate occurrence.

Ah. But if you are following the continuing sinking Titanic that is the stock market, things like availability may be changing with the tide. Let's see how Rolex responds to Wall street. I have my bucket of popcorn at the ready!

[GradyPhilpott]

The BLNR has never been a dog.

That's pure horse pucky.

It may have been eclipsed recently by the SSBLRO, but it's still a watch in high demand in areas that don't get large allocations of the watch.

Depending on how you define "dog," it is the dogs with short runs that usually go on to become the most sought after watches.

[returntorolex]

Short hands Explorer 1

[Largoshark]

I own one so I may be biased, but I'd say that the GV is definitely a contender...green crystal, lightning bolt second hand, orange hour markers and dial accents - make for a quirky yet coherent design. It's enjoyed a pretty long production run, but isn't exactly popular these days, so years from now there may not be a ton of them in the wild.

Also, some pretty iconic personalities either own, or at one time owned, the GV: Eric Clapton, Tom Hanks, Daniel Craig, Tom Brady, Roger Federer. The celebrity link has in the past played a role in the collectabily of certain models, however this may be a bygone concept.

...of course, only time will tell.

[Old Expat Beast]

Originally Posted by Largoshark

I own one so I may be biased, but I'd say that the GV is definitely a contender...green crystal, lightning bolt second hand, orange hour markers and dial accents - make for a quirky yet coherent design. It's enjoyed a pretty long production run, but isn't exactly popular these days, so years from now there may not be a ton of them in the wild.

Also, some pretty iconic personalities either own, or at one time owned, the GV: Eric Clapton, Tom Hanks, Daniel Craig, Tom Brady, Roger Federer. The celebrity link has in the past played a role in the collectabily of certain models, however this may be a bygone concept.

...of course, only time will tell.

Now that I've sold mine, it's pretty much guaranteed.

[VegasMilgauss]

The discontinued non GV black and white milgauss 116400

OK.. I may be a tad biased

[Fedpete]

Originally Posted by Bigblu10

Ah. But if you are following the continuing sinking Titanic that is the stock market, things like availability may be changing with the tide. Let's see how Rolex responds to Wall street. I have my bucket of popcorn at the ready!

The crash is coming friends.


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[challer]

There is a crash coming and that will change everything. The Asia market is already slowing dramatically that will hit Rolex hard. What a hard to find watch? Just wait. Thinking PM? Just wait. Until the US/China trade deal is sorted out and the current market correction bottoms, now is not the time to buy unless you just can't wait. I've been selling down to two. The next to go is my LN and then I'm holding for awhile.

[harvey]

Sighs. Can’t believe people are being so flippant about a stock market crash.


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[MHB]

116655 Rose Gold YM on Oysterflex.

Unique matte black bezel, outlier in the Rolex lineup, way unappreciated, beautiful sporty watch that works for men and women, classic size, rare and most likely made in small numbers. I could see it being discontinued any day.

I would buy one if I had the cash.

[lmcgbaj]

Originally Posted by challer

There is a crash coming and that will change everything. The Asia market is already slowing dramatically that will hit Rolex hard. What a hard to find watch? Just wait. Thinking PM? Just wait. Until the US/China trade deal is sorted out and the current market correction bottoms, now is not the time to buy unless you just can't wait. I've been selling down to two. The next to go is my LN and then I'm holding for awhile.

BUT....it's almost as if Rolex has prepared their distribution for an economic downturn. When (and not if) a new economic crash comes, Rolex production is already below market demand. It will fit right in...

The only affected parties will be those who paid the current insane aftermarket prices.

[BT1985]

Originally Posted by harvey

Sighs. Can’t believe people are being so flippant about a stock market crash.


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I agree. I can’t fathom buying and selling watches based on the ebbs and flows of the stock market. How could you ever enjoy a watch? To me that’s what separates a collector and a speculator.


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[brucethemanlee]

Originally Posted by BT1985

I agree. I can’t fathom buying and selling watches based on the ebbs and flows of the stock market. How could you ever enjoy a watch? To me that’s what separates a collector and a speculator.


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+1


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[Carondelet]

Originally Posted by zjd168

if the AK is discontinued this year...

Dude what you said!? haha If the AK was discontinued this year, I would predict it's value shooting up by 30%

[Divingdeep87]

I think the watches you cant get is what people want now, if they like it or not. A bit sad.

[challer]

Originally Posted by harvey

Sighs. Can’t believe people are being so flippant about a stock market crash.


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Flippant? Where did you get that?

[harvey]

Originally Posted by challer

Flippant? Where did you get that?

Read above. I’m not the only one who read it as I did.