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Old 8 November 2024, 04:40 PM   #1
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Which GMT Master 2 to choose?

Hi guys,

I'm in the market for the GMT Master 2 and torn between two options.
What would you do in this situation?.

- 16710 Pepsi New Old Stock with full stickers, Serif Bezel, Full-set (Around $15K-16K)
- 126710 Pepsi, Full-set (Around $19K-20K)

These are two different watches with $3K-4K price gap.
I really love both versions, but can't make a decision
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Old 8 November 2024, 05:11 PM   #2
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I would buy the modern reference.

I think the premium for the NoS is pretty heavy here - a used one would be maybe 2/3 to half of that.

That being said neo vintage is appealing in its own way. If you get hands on with both you will know.


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Old 8 November 2024, 07:46 PM   #3
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Hi guys,

I'm in the market for the GMT Master 2 and torn between two options.
What would you do in this situation?.

- 16710 Pepsi New Old Stock with full stickers, Serif Bezel, Full-set (Around $15K-16K)
- 126710 Pepsi, Full-set (Around $19K-20K)

These are two different watches with $3K-4K price gap.
I really love both versions, but can't make a decision
I own both and my vote is the 16710.
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Old 8 November 2024, 07:58 PM   #4
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Although they are both BLROs they are two very different watches.

Are you able to try them on to see which one you prefer? They wear completely differently
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Old 8 November 2024, 08:03 PM   #5
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There's no right or wrong answer.
New 6 digit for me.
Both are fantastic but I prefer the way the modern GMT wears and feels.
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Old 8 November 2024, 08:12 PM   #6
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Hi guys,

I'm in the market for the GMT Master 2 and torn between two options.
What would you do in this situation?.

- 16710 Pepsi New Old Stock with full stickers, Serif Bezel, Full-set (Around $15K-16K)
- 126710 Pepsi, Full-set (Around $19K-20K)

These are two different watches with $3K-4K price gap.
I really love both versions, but can't make a decision
Not a fan of any of the ceramic range of Rolex watches so would choose any 16710 very versatile watch get all 3 inserts then 3 different watches for little money.
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Old 8 November 2024, 08:14 PM   #7
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Choosing a Rolex GMT-Master II depends on your style and preference. The "Pepsi" with its red and blue bezel offers a classic look, while the "Batman" with a black and blue bezel adds a modern touch. For luxury, the "Root Beer" with its gold accents is a standout choice.
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Old 8 November 2024, 08:18 PM   #8
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It’ll be easier to find a 126710 in the future opposed to an NOS 16710.

If only one I’d take the 126710.
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Old 8 November 2024, 10:20 PM   #9
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For me ….it'd be a matter of what’s in the collection already. If I had all modern, I MIGHT consider the 5 digit, that’s a big maybe , as I love the modern reference on jubilee.
If it were a one and only watch….6 digit for sure.
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Old 8 November 2024, 10:39 PM   #10
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NOS pricing is reflective of the fact that it has not been worn. If you are going to wear the watch, I would not take the value hit and would look preowned. As far as the choice between the older model and the newer model I would go with the the current model on jubilee. Costs a bit more but to me it is worth it. If you want something that has a vintage look then go with a Tudor Black Bay GMT. Put it on a five link bracelet, leather or NATO. All for around 3k pre-owned. So I would/did the same thing. Modern BLRO and the Tudor. I am pleased with the watches.
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Old 8 November 2024, 10:55 PM   #11
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Not a fan of any of the ceramic range of Rolex watches so would choose any 16710 very versatile watch get all 3 inserts then 3 different watches for little money.
^ This. Throw in a jubilee and you have opened up even more options.
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Old 8 November 2024, 11:01 PM   #12
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This one for me. Although I had the all black original ceramic on my wrist for 15 years before this one and I loved it




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Old 8 November 2024, 11:18 PM   #13
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16710 if you tend to keep your watches pristine.

Given your username not sure I’d pay the premium for NOS…
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Old 8 November 2024, 11:20 PM   #14
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Old 8 November 2024, 11:22 PM   #15
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16710 would get my vote all day long
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Old 8 November 2024, 11:25 PM   #16
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I love the look of the 5 digit GMT's and Subs and have owned a handful of them. But the wearing experience is WAY different than the modern 6 digit references. None of the 5 digit watches I've owned have stuck around very long. On the other hand, I have a slight problem hoarding the 6 digit, they're just so good!

126710BLRO for me.
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It’ll be easier to find a 126710 in the future opposed to an NOS 16710.

If only one I’d take the 126710.
This is the best strategy if both appeals to you.
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Old 9 November 2024, 01:17 AM   #19
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Personally, the 16710 has some drawbacks. The maxidial and hands are on the 126710 and not the 16710. There isn't a AR coating on the date magnifier, so quick glance for my aging eyes is much easier to read both. I also like the bigger crown to set the date and time not to mention it’s a triple lock. Over time it also seems like the 16710 bracelet will stretch more than the 126710 bracelet. The 16710 is also lacking an easylink.

The tuna can clasp on the 16710 is very cheap feeling, again IMHO, so to me, the newer iteration is the way to go. But for you, if you could see them both in person, side by side, the difference would be noticeable at that time making your decision easier, and finite.
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Old 9 November 2024, 01:25 AM   #20
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Old 9 November 2024, 01:30 AM   #21
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I would go for the modern reference. Much better built from the scratch proof and UV resistant bezel down to the sturdier bracelet and clasp. It feels like a more substantial timepiece because it is. It’s a tank of a watch!.
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Old 9 November 2024, 01:46 AM   #22
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I would buy the NOS 16710 before paying grey market pricing for a model in production.
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Old 9 November 2024, 03:22 AM   #23
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NOS pricing is reflective of the fact that it has not been worn. If you are going to wear the watch, I would not take the value hit and would look preowned. As far as the choice between the older model and the newer model I would go with the the current model on jubilee. Costs a bit more but to me it is worth it. If you want something that has a vintage look then go with a Tudor Black Bay GMT. Put it on a five link bracelet, leather or NATO. All for around 3k pre-owned. So I would/did the same thing. Modern BLRO and the Tudor. I am pleased with the watches.

So you would get a preowned older watch instead of a NOS super recent watch?

Like 2019 preowned @25500k vs 2023 NOS @28k??
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16710 if you tend to keep your watches pristine.

Given your username not sure I’d pay the premium for NOS…
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Old 9 November 2024, 03:59 AM   #25
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Depends on the collection.

The 6 digits are solid, and so well built. They do lack the charm of the 5 digits and are also very shiny.

I’d go for a none nos 5 digit, get atleast one more insert and add the other bracelet over time before wearing the heck out of it.

The neo vintage are so much cooler for me.
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Good arguments for either reference in general, but that’s too much money for that 16710. I’m not a big NOS guy myself though, since I wear my watches.


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Good arguments for either reference in general, but that’s too much money for that 16710. I’m not a big NOS guy myself though, since I wear my watches.


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Old 9 November 2024, 04:45 AM   #29
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Is it? I thought it was a pretty decent price for NOS with full stickers.
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Depends on the collection.

The 6 digits are solid, and so well built. They do lack the charm of the 5 digits and are also very shiny.

I’d go for a none nos 5 digit, get atleast one more insert and add the other bracelet over time before wearing the heck out of it.

The neo vintage are so much cooler for me.
Have to agree on this one. I actually tried both IRL and the charm on 5 digit pepsi was just incomparable
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