Rolex GMT-Master 16700

[Apprentice.ph]

Originally Posted by Tools

Sorry, your facts are wrong.



The 16710 GMT II, introduced in 1989 came with all 3 versions of insert and was sold along side the GMT 16700 for a decade in tritium.



The 16760 GMT II Fat Lady, made in '83 to '88 came only in red/black.

Have you seen an all original/brand new 16710 tritium GMT Master II on Pepsi Bezel?


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[Apprentice.ph]

Originally Posted by sillo38

Depends on what serial. The early ones were non-serif and switched somewhere in the mid to late 90s I believe. My GMT Master booklet from the early 90s shows it with the non serif and I have this talking points booklet from 1991 that also shows it with the non-serif.

No, this one is not GMT master II. It’s reference 16700 that’s why it still has the tritium mark on the 6 o’clock. Have you seen a brand new 16710 on T<25 dial?


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[Apprentice.ph]

Originally Posted by springer

This is "fake news" at its best.

Nope! Can you kindly show photos of an all original and brand new GMT MASTER 2 Ref 16710 pepsi on tritium dial? Its not even on the catalogue


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[Apprentice.ph]

Originally Posted by lee fowler

I have a virtually NOS 16700 from 1991 and a virtuall NOS 16710 from 1996 and they both have original inserts fitted which are both serif! As John has mentioned you cannot take much notice of the pictures Rolex used for their brochures and booklets. I have a 1976 brochure which shows a picture of a long E dial GMT.

Is your NOS 16710 a pepsi or coke?


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[sillo]

Originally Posted by Apprentice.ph

No, this one is not GMT master II. It’s reference 16700 that’s why it still has the tritium mark on the 6 o’clock. Have you seen a brand new 16710 on T<25 dial?


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That's not what I was talking about. That was in regards to serif vs non-serif inserts.

[Apprentice.ph]

Originally Posted by sillo38

That's not what I was talking about. That was in regards to serif vs non-serif inserts.

I just realized. sorry, my bad with regards to the one I mentioned in the topic. Do you think it makes sense? Because I think it does. Why would rolex offer multiple watches with the same look?


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[Apprentice.ph]

Originally Posted by springer

Like I mentioned...fake news. I'd like to see where this bit of misinformation came from regarding the original post.

You cant be so sure with the website link you shared. Check catalogues and you will never see a 16710 tritium on Pepsi insert. If you have an official catalogue that proves I’m wrong, kindly show it to me.


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[springer]

Originally Posted by Apprentice.ph

Nope! Can you kindly show photos of an all original and brand new GMT MASTER 2 Ref 16710 pepsi on tritium dial? Its not even on the catalogue


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You're obviously trolling. Many of the Rolex sales booklets/brochures from the GMT II tritium era show the various models with one color insert, not all three or two as in the case of the 16700.

GMT owner manuals do not depict all the insert variations either. If you look at the owner's manuals for the GMT 16750, the watch is depicted with a "Pepsi" insert and no photos of the watch with a black insert although we know it was offered with a black insert.

[Sherbie]

Originally Posted by Apprentice.ph

16710 is different from rootbeer reference number :)


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Please read my post again

I made no reference to the root beer

I made a reference to the coke insert on the 16710


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[Apprentice.ph]

Originally Posted by springer

You're obviously trolling. Many of the Rolex sales booklets/brochures from the GMT II tritium era show the various models with one color insert, not all three or two as in the case of the 16700.

GMT owner manuals do not depict all the insert variations either. If you look at the owner's manuals for the GMT 16750, the watch is depicted with a "Pepsi" insert and no photos of the watch with a black insert although we know it was offered with a black insert.

You’re the one who’s trolling. Maybe you got a 16710 without its period correct insert :) I’ll look for Rolex’s email and share it with you. Unless you can show me a NOS pepsi tritium hahaha


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[Apprentice.ph]

Originally Posted by Sherbie

Please read my post again

I made no reference to the root beer

I made a reference to the coke insert on the 16710


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Thanks for sharing! Your catalogue makes more sense. Coke really is GMT II tritium era


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[springer]

Originally Posted by Apprentice.ph

You’re the one who’s trolling. Maybe you got a 16710 without its period correct insert :) I’ll look for Rolex’s email and share it with you. Unless you can show me a NOS pepsi tritium hahaha


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No thanks. I'm not going to partake in any more of your nonsense. Instead of addressing my comments you choose to insult me.

[Apprentice.ph]

Originally Posted by springer

No thanks. I'm done with you and your trolling.

Lol Just accept the fact that you dont know everything. Everyday is a good day to learn and grow up as mature individuals.


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[Apprentice.ph]

Originally Posted by springer

No thanks. I'm not going to partake in any more of your nonsense. Instead of addressing my comments you choose to insult me.

You were the one who accused first. Fake news, Trolling etc. Does this sound all in good faith and a gentleman to you? Because generally, I think it doesn’t.


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[BisonHead]

Interesting thread.

[Apprentice.ph]

Originally Posted by lee fowler

Not just the 4's.

Hi Sir! Would like to hear your insights on this please :)


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[Apprentice.ph]

1997 AD GMT-Master Ref. 16700


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[Apprentice.ph]

GMT MASTER II COKE 1997 AD


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[Apprentice.ph]

1996 Rolex Catalogue




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[swish77]

Originally Posted by Apprentice.ph

Why would rolex offer multiple watches with the same look?

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Why? Because Rolex sometimes did this. For example, they simultaneously offered the virtually identical Submariner 5512 and 5513 for many years.

So, to clarify, you're contending that Rolex never offered a 16710 (tritium dial) with a Pepsi insert? And that would mean that between about 1989-1997, there were no 16710s that left the Rolex factory with a Pepsi insert? Can you back that up with something more than a few incomplete catalog references/photos? (Catalogs are notoriously out of date and misleading.) Do you have something substantial to back up your theory?

For marketing purposes, it makes sense that Rolex catalogs through most of the '90s would show the 16710 with a Coke insert because the 16700 wasn't offered with a Coke insert. However, this does not mean that the 16710 wasn't available with a Pepsi insert.

Hard to prove definitively what insert originally came with a 16710, of course, because I believe Rolex USA was the only one making that distinction on paperwork. Here's an early 1990s 16710 (E-serial) with a tritium dial that shows U.S. service papers and a Pepsi insert designation, BLRO. I assume Rolex would not have put that on the paperwork unless it came with that insert originally.