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timeldn · 13 August 2018, 05:35 AM

Dear TRF

Please could you let me know the year/date when Rolex introduced the “Rolex Laser Etched Crown Hologram” on the crystal normally at the 6 o’clock.

I am purchasing a Submariner Reference 16610 (2009 model) and the laser etched crown hologram does not appear on the dial, I have used a loupe under all different lighting and still could not find it. I did not have a problem on the later models.

Could you let me know if this is normal for that particular model?

Thank you very much.

SLS · 13 August 2018, 05:45 AM

it should be there or the crystal was replaced with an aftermarket crystal.

Jocke · 13 August 2018, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by timeldn

Dear TRF

Please could you let me know the year/date when Rolex introduced the “Rolex Laser Etched Crown Hologram” on the crystal normally at the 6 o’clock.

I am purchasing a Submariner Reference 16610 (2009 model) and the laser etched crown hologram does not appear on the dial, I have used a loupe under all different lighting and still could not find it. I did not have a problem on the later models.

Could you let me know if this is normal for that particular model?

Thank you very much.

Didn't you get the answer you looking for in the other similar thread you post?

2009 will have it so just keep looking.

timeldn · 13 August 2018, 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Jocke

Didn't you get the answer you looking for in the other similar thread you post?

2009 will have it so just keep looking.

Apologies I posted the same question this afternoon when I was travelling, I thought it did not go through and I reposted it again.

Thank you all for your answer.

Jocke · 13 August 2018, 05:50 AM

Here you have some more info I hav put together.

Click here to find out

RoyalOac · 13 August 2018, 05:53 AM

Perhaps check not at the 6 o'clock position, but at other circumference of the crystal. If you find the etched crown for example at 4'oclock , it has most likely been tampered with by a watch hobbyiest or an independent who did not place the crystal back in the correct 6'oclock position.

SLS · 13 August 2018, 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by RoyalOac

Perhaps check not at the 6 o'clock position, but at other circumference of the crystal. If you find the etched crown for example at 4'oclock , it has most likely been tampered with by a watch hobbyiest or an independent who did not place the crystal back in the correct 6'oclock position.

The 16610 has a cyclops, it would be obvious if the crystal was not put over the date window.

RoyalOac · 13 August 2018, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by SLS

The 16610 has a cyclops, it would be obvious if the crystal was not put over the date window.

touche, good point!

Jocke · 13 August 2018, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by SLS

The 16610 has a cyclops, it would be obvious if the crystal was not put over the date window.

You can never be sure.

RoyalOac · 13 August 2018, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Jocke

You can never be sure.

watchmework · 13 August 2018, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Jocke

You can never be sure.

You mean the glass doesn’t rotate with the bezel, doh!

SLS · 13 August 2018, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Jocke

You can never be sure.

I guess there is a first for everything!

timeldn · 13 August 2018, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Jocke

Here you have some more info I hav put together.

Click here to find out

Thank you very much for the informative and helpful information. The crystal was probably replaced, this is from a Grey Dealer.

superstarmar · 13 August 2018, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SLS

I guess there is a first for everything!

77T · 13 August 2018, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by timeldn

Thank you very much for the informative and helpful information. The crystal was probably replaced, this is from a Grey Dealer.

If replaced and there is no LEC then likely an aftermarket crystal.

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Dr. Larry Tucker Sr. · 4 October 2019, 12:00 PM

It could be an OEM genuine Rolex crystal from an earlier year.

Jerrocop · 4 October 2019, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Jocke

Here you have some more info I hav put together.

Click here to find out

Great info . . . I didn’t know they are all little stars.

13 August 2018, 05:35 AM	#1
timeldn "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: London Posts: 606	Rolex Laser Etched Crown Hologram (Start Date) Dear TRF Please could you let me know the year/date when Rolex introduced the “Rolex Laser Etched Crown Hologram” on the crystal normally at the 6 o’clock. I am purchasing a Submariner Reference 16610 (2009 model) and the laser etched crown hologram does not appear on the dial, I have used a loupe under all different lighting and still could not find it. I did not have a problem on the later models. Could you let me know if this is normal for that particular model? Thank you very much.

13 August 2018, 05:45 AM	#2
SLS "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Scott Location: GMT -7 Watch: GMT's & Sub's Posts: 10,401	it should be there or the crystal was replaced with an aftermarket crystal. __________________ "The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of lower price is forgotten." -Benjamin Franklin Member No. 922

13 August 2018, 05:50 AM	#5
Jocke 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Jocke Location: Sweden Watch: A dozen of Rolex's Posts: 22,541	Here you have some more info I hav put together. Click here to find out __________________ This message is written in perfect swenglish. What is best a custom Rolex or a Rolex that is stuck in custom? Buy a professional camera and you´re a professional photographer, buy a flute and you own a flute.

13 August 2018, 05:53 AM	#6
RoyalOac "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: NY Posts: 458	Perhaps check not at the 6 o'clock position, but at other circumference of the crystal. If you find the etched crown for example at 4'oclock , it has most likely been tampered with by a watch hobbyiest or an independent who did not place the crystal back in the correct 6'oclock position. __________________ Rolex Daytona 116500LN Rolex GMT Master II 126710 BLRO Rolex Submariner 116610 LV Rolex Submariner 126613 LB Audemars Piguet Royal Oak 15300ST

4 October 2019, 12:00 PM	#16
Dr. Larry Tucker Sr. "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: New Jersey Posts: 4	It could be an OEM genuine Rolex crystal from an earlier year.

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