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Old 7 November 2019, 12:00 AM   #1
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Why does this forum care so much about what watch other people like??

It’s one of the most bizarre turns this forum has taken. Shouldn’t YOU know what watch YOU like before spending a considerable sum of money on? This isn’t hard and doesn’t require any knowledge or skill set to know what model watch looks good to you. You like the watch, you buy the watch, you wear the watch. This isn’t complicated stuff here. I would think toilet training might even be more difficult than this.

It went from “what Rolex will increase in value the most?” To now “What model does everyone like the most X or Y?” Is this a odd way of seeking people’s approval or validation of some kind to know what watch to buy???
Why would anyone care what model other people like as their background and taste is meaningless.
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Old 7 November 2019, 12:04 AM   #2
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I think the era of social media has a lot to do with it. Like you said, its an odd way of seeking approval or validation, like getting "likes" on IG. People just want to know they have the "in" thing that is liked by others.
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Old 7 November 2019, 12:04 AM   #3
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The problem with today's watch buyers is that it has to look good on pictures which they post on their Instagram account.
It's skin and luxury what sells in today's social media world.
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Old 7 November 2019, 12:12 AM   #4
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It’s one of the most bizarre turns this forum has taken. Shouldn’t YOU know what watch YOU like before spending a considerable sum of money on? This isn’t hard and doesn’t require any knowledge or skill set to know what model watch looks good to you. You like the watch, you buy the watch, you wear the watch. This isn’t complicated stuff here. I would think toilet training might even be more difficult than this.

It went from “what Rolex will increase in value the most?” To now “What model does everyone like the most X or Y?” Is this a odd way of seeking people’s approval or validation of some kind to know what watch to buy???
Why would anyone care what model other people like as their background and taste is meaningless.
Have to agree but afraid today many cannot use there own grey matter the brain,and today many cannot think for themselves.I sometimes wonder how some remember to breath, IMHO the so called social media world of today will be the end of thinking for themselves.
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Old 7 November 2019, 12:14 AM   #5
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I have started threads on which reference to get, this or that.

I do this as it is difficult to get the references for a side by side comparison, so it’s good to get some thoughts and real life experiences from members here.

Of course ultimately it’s my decision but it helps by gleaning aspects or features which I may have missed.

Also with the help of members here I have been able to source the reference I’ve decided on.
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Old 7 November 2019, 12:14 AM   #6
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Human nature: people want to fit in, for the most part. And people want to be one of the cool kids.
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Old 7 November 2019, 12:16 AM   #7
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It’s one of the most bizarre turns this forum has taken. Shouldn’t YOU know what watch YOU like before spending a considerable sum of money on? This isn’t hard and doesn’t require any knowledge or skill set to know what model watch looks good to you. You like the watch, you buy the watch, you wear the watch. This isn’t complicated stuff here. I would think toilet training might even be more difficult than this.

It went from “what Rolex will increase in value the most?” To now “What model does everyone like the most X or Y?” Is this a odd way of seeking people’s approval or validation of some kind to know what watch to buy???
Why would anyone care what model other people like as their background and taste is meaningless.



Actually makes good sense right? See if you blow your money on a car, you do your research. As these watches have gone up in value, it makes sense to get some input from folks that have been at this for a while. Lets face it, we may be struck by things such as the looks of a watch. But many folks don't know for example the 5 digit GMT's can have multiple looks with the bezels and bracelets, but this is not an option with the 6 digit reference and may be good to know before blowing 10 grand. So its not just about the looks.

When I got my sub, I waltzed into the AD, plunked down $3250 and walked out with it. Now, it like 10 grand, so it would make me more cautious too.
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Old 7 November 2019, 12:16 AM   #8
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It’s one of the most bizarre turns this forum has taken. Shouldn’t YOU know what watch YOU like before spending a considerable sum of money on? This isn’t hard and doesn’t require any knowledge or skill set to know what model watch looks good to you. You like the watch, you buy the watch, you wear the watch. This isn’t complicated stuff here. I would think toilet training might even be more difficult than this.

It went from “what Rolex will increase in value the most?” To now “What model does everyone like the most X or Y?” Is this a odd way of seeking people’s approval or validation of some kind to know what watch to buy???
Why would anyone care what model other people like as their background and taste is meaningless.
I don’t disagree, it’s just human psyche to want to be liked and accepted.

Just look at forum members responses when someone posts a watch with a different strap on it....the range from cool to absolutely hideous. Just like people want others to accept the strap of choice they want them to accept their taste in watch choice as well. Just human nature I suppose.
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Old 7 November 2019, 12:16 AM   #9
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Have to agree but afraid today many cannot use there own grey matter the brain,and today many cannot think for themselves,I sometimes wonder how some remember to breath.
Rather disrespectful of members here. Again I should say...as others have recently highlighted.

See my reply above. Make sense?


In over 10 years this is the first time I have registered my disagreement and annoyance at the holier than thou attitude of some here.
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Old 7 November 2019, 12:17 AM   #10
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I don't see anything wrong with getting people's opinions on watches and things, in general. For example, I was really debating between the chocolate and olive DD40's, and wanted to canvas other people's thoughts. In the end, I chose what I (capital I) wanted, not because of what people were saying, but because it just sang more to me. It was still nice to see what other people thought, though.

It's the same thing as posting a pic of your watch here...who cares, right??

This is a watch forum - what else are we supposed to talk about?
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Old 7 November 2019, 12:19 AM   #11
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Have to agree but afraid today many cannot use there own grey matter the brain,and today many cannot think for themselves,I sometimes wonder how some remember to breath.
These same people can figure out how order their $12 cup of coffee? Remember Padi it wasn’t that long ago on the forum when new members at least knew what model they liked the look of. They might not know the movement or tech specs but they at least could tell you what they thought looked beautiful without a popularity poll or future market value spreadsheet.
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Old 7 November 2019, 12:19 AM   #12
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In a way, asking what model everyone likes the most seems like a derivative of asking what model will increase in value the most. If a particular model is super popular then it’s probably also valuable.


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Old 7 November 2019, 12:21 AM   #13
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Human nature: people want to fit in, for the most part. And people want to be one of the cool kids.


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Old 7 November 2019, 12:21 AM   #14
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Here's my take. I think most people that ask the question is asking to ellicit conversation. Stir up some brainstorming...

If I were to start a post and ask..."What do you like better, the 5 digit or 6 digit Subs?"

If someone were to reply with just "5 digit" i would be underwhelmed. And of course I could care less. What I would be looking for are the reasons behind it. Some of which I may not have considered. Like an "aha moment." And especially in this era of buy before you try because Rolex wants to play hard to get.

That's why I really hate replies like "get what you want". It's like oh wait, why didn't I think of that!



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Old 7 November 2019, 12:21 AM   #15
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Why does this forum care so much about what watch other people like??

Because it’s easier for people to be told what to do rather than conducting self research to determine what they actually want. Indecisiveness is also a common trait these days.

There are so many videos on YouTube that tell you everything you need to know about a watch. Especially something as common as a Rolex.
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Old 7 November 2019, 12:23 AM   #16
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The majority of people just want ideas. They want to converse. I'm a firm believer of buy what you like, wear what you like and don't give a hoot of what others have to say.
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Old 7 November 2019, 12:24 AM   #17
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Mystro, any of my reasons valid?
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Old 7 November 2019, 12:24 AM   #18
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yeah I don't see how any of those questions are bizarre in the slightest.
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Old 7 November 2019, 12:25 AM   #19
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I don't see anything wrong with getting people's opinions on watches and things, in general. For example, I was really debating between the chocolate and olive DD40's, and wanted to canvas other people's thoughts. In the end, I chose what I (capital I) wanted, not because of what people were saying, but because it just sang more to me. It was still nice to see what other people thought, though.

It's the same thing as posting a pic of your watch here...who cares, right??

This is a watch forum - what else are we supposed to talk about?
Never replied to my own thread before, but wanted to expand - I feel like a lot of times the forum makes general statements or feel a certain way about certain topics because we've been around the block. I think we have to understand that there are newcomers everyday to the brand and the forum, so they're going to have some questions about Rolex and the different models.

Just my two cents.
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Old 7 November 2019, 12:26 AM   #20
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Why does this forum care so much about what watch other people like??

I read and responded to a thread about the 4k vs SD43 where the OP was asking what members like better.

The 4k was/is an oddball being a 40mm case 15.5mm thick. It is not one a person will see or try on anytime soon, to gather their own opinion (on the wrist).

The SD43 is 43 mm and one that enthusiasts often ask “is it too big” or how does it wear/compare to a sub or DSSD.

Nowadays, people are unable to try on watches and they have to rely on the internet for pics, videos, and perspectives. If/when I have first hand experience with a reference that another member is asking about, I’ll do what I can to lend an opinion. Nbd
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Old 7 November 2019, 12:30 AM   #21
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It's a forum for a specific watch brand. Gonna run out of subjects to discuss?
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Old 7 November 2019, 12:30 AM   #22
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Because it’s easier for people to be told what to do rather than conducting self research to determine what they actually want. Indecisiveness is also a common trait these days.

There are so many videos on YouTube that tell you everything you need to know about a watch. Especially something as common as a Rolex.
I think this is it. I am not that old to remember buying a Rolex pre internet was it’s own journey and required that initial research work. You put in the time over all the catalogs and with only yourself and your wallet as your research partner. It required more legwork and time but ultimately was more rewarding in the end.
It was my watch and I was damn proud of it without a thought or care what anyone else thought.

I’m from the polite generation and you understand your taste are your own. Who am I to say the watch they love isn’t as cool or important than another??? This is what changed on this forum the last few years as it’s all too easy to anonymously trash or talk down a particular watch model without any regard that this particular model could be this guys grail watch. This is a fundamental reason a new member might be intimidated as hell to say he likes a particular model that might not be on the “hot list”. Social media has made being gauche acceptable when hiding behind a keyboard.

Like what you like and be damn proud about your own personal style and taste. Forget everyone else’s opinion.
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These same people can figure out how order their $12 cup of coffee? Remember Padi it wasn’t that long ago on the forum when new members at least knew what model they liked the look of. They might not know the movement or tech specs but they at least could tell you what they thought looked beautiful without a popularity poll or future market value spreadsheet.
I have never in 53 years spent $12 on a cup of coffee. Is it that expensive in central Pa?
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Old 7 November 2019, 12:32 AM   #24
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Because it’s easier for people to be told what to do rather than conducting self research to determine what they actually want. Indecisiveness is also a common trait these days.

There are so many videos on YouTube that tell you everything you need to know about a watch. Especially something as common as a Rolex.


I feel some of the members on TRF have more experience and knowledge on watches than most YouTube personalities.

I understand why one might come to TRF and ask for some first hand perspectives on a reference, provided, they are not chastised or shamed for doing so. Lol

I fee fortunate to have people in real life (not internet land) that I talk to and see in person, to talk watches and share opinions. It’s what people like to do that are enthusiastic about this hobby. If others don’t have close friends like this, I see why they turn to the forum.
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Many people need constant validation to live their lives, this is not unique to watches.
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I see where some would say ...why in the world??... I’ve asked several times on the forum what folks thought of a certain piece, and also the ‘this or that one’ thread. But generally it was just to hear opinions, thought processes, maybe get some perspective from current owners, or something to consider that I hadn’t thought of (especially looking at some vintage pieces).....
But in the end, the forum opinions/advice was exactly what I was looking for, but didn’t sway my buying decision, and I did make my own decision.
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I think asking for feedback on a potential watch purchase is just fine....I would think the long time forum members would welcome and encourage this.

The forum members can provide many different points of view...and the purchaser can learn things about a particular watch that they would have not known if they didn’t ask...prior to making the watch purchase.
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