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Old 18 March 2013, 03:00 PM   #1
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Difference between 580 and 501B end links

Since I have a small wrist, I'm thinking of using 580 end links on my 93150 bracelet. Appreciate your inputs :). Photos will be of great help :)

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Old 18 March 2013, 03:13 PM   #2
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Here are 580 endlinks on my 93150 bracelet. My wrist is very small. 6" - 6 1/4"
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Old 18 March 2013, 03:45 PM   #3
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Thanks. The drawing below is what i want to achieve: (the one on top is the current fit)
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Old 18 March 2013, 03:55 PM   #4
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501B is the newer end piece which accommodates a newer 93150 bracelet with a wedge shaped center link. The 580 end piece is normally found on 93150 bracelet with a round shaped center link. The first TWO pictures show the newer 93150 bracelet with the wedge center link, while the THIRD or last picture shows the older 93150 bracelet with round center link.


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Old 18 March 2013, 03:59 PM   #5
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Thanks. The drawing below is what i want to achieve: (the one on top is the current fit)
You will achieve a better fit (the lower of your drawing) if you go with the 580 end piece.
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Old 18 March 2013, 04:05 PM   #6
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Thanks for the replies. So a quick fix will be to use 580 end links on 93150 bracelet? I have the later 93150 (wedge-shaped center link) version and wishes to achieve a more flushed fit

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Old 18 March 2013, 04:05 PM   #7
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Old 18 March 2013, 04:12 PM   #8
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Thanks for the replies. So a quick fix will be to use 580 end links on 93150 bracelet? I have the later 93150 (wedge-shaped center link) version and wishes to achieve a more flushed fit

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Oopss.....sorry, in order for you to achieve a better fit, it would be better for you to go with an older "round" center link 93150 bracelet. I've tried both 501B and 580 end pieces and they both work with the older "round center link" 93150 bracelet.
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Old 18 March 2013, 04:15 PM   #9
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Thanks. does that mean fitting 580 end links will have the same result as having 501B end links on the newer 93150?

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Old 18 March 2013, 04:26 PM   #10
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Thanks. does that mean fitting 580 end links will have the same result as having 501B end links on the newer 93150?

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Yes.

Remember the newer 93150 bracelet has the "wedge" shaped center link, and it is "notched" as well, see my picture below. The notch keeps the center link sticks out and prevents it to collapse or drop in a normal manner and follows the shape of your wrist.

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Old 18 March 2013, 04:59 PM   #11
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Thanks for the help. Looks like I would need to seek the older 93150 bracelet
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Old 19 March 2013, 01:15 AM   #12
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Thanks for the help. Looks like I would need to seek the older 93150 bracelet
The "end-link" has nothing to do with the way it fits on your wrist; it is just a filler piece.
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Old 3 April 2013, 10:09 AM   #13
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Finally managed to get the older 93150 (with fixed link #4 removed) with a bonus: an aftermarket glidelock clasp :) now my sub has never been this comfortable:

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Old 2 August 2013, 03:34 PM   #14
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Oopss.....sorry, in order for you to achieve a better fit, it would be better for you to go with an older "round" center link 93150 bracelet. I've tried both 501B and 580 end pieces and they both work with the older "round center link" 93150 bracelet.
U5512, I just acquired the older-version 93150 bracelet with the 580 endlinks. I want to install these on my (newer) 14060M Sub, but I'm having a bit of a hard time fitting the endlinks onto the case with the lug-pins lining up to the holes. I didn't really try to "push" it for fear of chewing up the lugs, etc.

Do the 580 endlinks fit a 14060M case?

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Old 22 July 2018, 02:16 AM   #15
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I seem to be having the same issue as powerband. I have a 1016 r serial from 1988.

I bought a new 78360 with 580 end links. The original bracelet has the same codes but the last link is round on the original and wedged on the new one. The new one does not seem to line up with the holes on my case. Any ideas? I thought a 78360 with 580s would fit seeing how that what my old set up was. The only difference I can see btw these bracelets in the last link. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 20 January 2020, 09:17 AM   #16
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Please note that 580 endlinks and 501b endlinks are shaped differently to fit minute difference in cases.

A simple rule of thumb. If your Sub is 5 digit reference, 501b will be the better fit.
580 endlinks are for vintage or 4 digit references only.

Wedges or thin slice �� has nothing to do with endlinks fitting ��

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