Why are these Daytona's not popular?

[GADGET-MAN]

Curious why TRF members think the Daytona 2-tone watches are not popular? Obviously from pricing something is up.

Posted image example I grabbed off internet.

Thank you

M

[1665fan]

People want the hard to get SS version....not the version that sells under retail..

[zengineer]

People like them less. Fewer like them. It's not complicated.

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[vipereaper30]

The only two-tone that had ever slightly appealed to me is the CHNR. Otherwise all SS or PM but not both together. I suspect that's why the demand is lower.

[Roger Lococco]

Personally, I don't like two tone watches.

[kieselguhr]

Love the TT Daytona! That exact one would be the one I get or the slate dial. I don’t care about what other people think of the watch, it’s meant to impress me and no one else

[GoingPlaces]

It's the TT dilemma. Personally I like TT Rolex watches but most people don't. I think this reference is a great value, one of the most underrated references for sure.

[DonRickles]

Too loud for some, too quiet for others.

Beautiful machine! IMO

[mml4]

The anti TT Mafia at work!

[uhren917]

My first aspirational Rolex was the TT Blue Submariner 16613/116613LB.

I have a TT Daytona and I love it.

I got it new with a discount, it has Gold which is a metal that is a store of wealth for thousands of years; a commodity which has been climbing in value, it has the same movement as the SS version and best of all it is against the herd mentality.

[kneedeep]

Caught in No Man's Land. Always was, is and shall forever be. Think the Daytona TT would look great on a brown leather strap.

[Chester01]

I had the zenith Daytona version, white dial two tone. I could not get the ss version back then (circa 1999). For me I was just never a gold person number 1-to flashy for me. Secondly, I believe sport watches should be all about function and SS is better and more functional. Gold and PM looks good on dress watches, but there is no functional utility other than an added bling factor (which I don’t prefer).

[101031-28]

They are nice, I'm just not a two-tone lover.

[inadeje]

Hi OP, tendencies and fashion changes. When I bought my TT Daytona new in the mid 90s the TT variant and the YG variant were all the rage. The extravagant naughties are well documented and flashy gold was in its hay day. Since then, things have changed, stealth wealth and less extravagance has ruled since the 2000s until the present day. Also, watch brands adapted to this new reality by restricting the production of the “cheaper” SS variants which, when combined with consumer trends, made ss more desirable but, there were less of them. Back in the 90s and even more so in the 80s (4 digit daytona), Rolex couldn’t shift SS variants (Causing lower production) which, conversely, has made their lack of availability in the used market generate a higher price. On the flip side, tons of TTs were sold when they were popular, so the secondary market has a glut of these 90s pieces = common/less desirable. The secondary market affects the new market, meaning that TTs are easy to obtain which when then compounded with the change in consumer buying habits (wanting less flashy items in general), makes the TT undesirable on forums where hardened aficionados like us glean most of our opinions and consensus.

Previous posters allude to a scenario where SS were always (4 and 5 digit) really tough to obtain and thus always sought after. This synopsis is a fictional supposition where those not old enough to remember provide views of the past based upon what they see today. I was a real buyer in the 90s and I really bought a zenith Daytona. I really went to multiple ADs in Spain, US, France and UK and I really saw SS sitting there and I could have bought 10 or more of them on a heartbeat with zero issues. I bought the TT because that was what people wanted and, I would have probably bought the all YG had I not been in my 20s at the time and I didn’t have the money. I would not (back then) have bought the SS. Hindsight is a beautiful thing eh? But, how could anyone have known that 20 or 30 years later YG would be deemed too flashy?

Anyhow, here are my two Daytona’s. A TT zenith bought new when they were hip and, the latest sought after piece due to today’s consumer preferences

[RichM]

It’s a love hate relationship for me. I’ve had a couple but they never seem to last. The only one left in the collection belongs to me wife.

[tkc324]

Some people just don't like TT watches. Doesn't matter if its the Daytona, Sub, YM or DJ. So for those who likes TT, it presents a great buying opportunity on the second hand market. I personally bought a TT sub last year. I would look to acquire a TT GMT in the near future.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by GADGET-MAN

Curious why TRF members think the Daytona 2-tone watches are not popular? Obviously from pricing something is up.

Posted image example I grabbed off internet.

Thank you

M

Mainly because the SS has always been hard to get at retail even when first launched way back in 2000.Then the so called celebs started wearing them, then the Rolex internet hype started making the SS version the greatest thing since slice bread.And today many wear the hype rather than the watch,IMHO although not a fan of the modern Daytona the TT has more dial options and again IMHO a better looking watch than the SS.But today fashion and hype is what many wear today instead of the watch.

[omx5o]

Nothing wrong with TT.

[inadeje]

Originally Posted by padi56

Mainly because the SS has always been hard to get at retail even when first launched way back in 2000.Then the so called celebs started wearing them, then the Rolex internet hype started making the SS version the greatest thing since slice bread.And today many wear the hype rather than the watch,IMHO although not a fan of the modern Daytona the TT has more dial options and again IMHO a better looking watch than the SS.But today fashion and hype is what many wear today instead of the watch.

Hi Padi, such an informed veteran mine of accurate information as yourself wouldn’t usually write “ Mainly because the SS has always been hard to get even when first launched way back in 2000“

First launched back in 2000?

[spersky]

I absolutely love the TT watches.

[Hollie_Rollie]

I think those are beautiful watches and awesome value. I believe they can even be had for a little less than msrp (possibly way under msrp in the future). Two tone watches just haven’t been historically popular on the forums

[aczaja10]

Originally Posted by inadeje

Hi OP, tendencies and fashion changes. When I bought my TT Daytona new in the mid 90s the TT variant and the YG variant were all the rage. The extravagant naughties are well documented and flashy gold was in its hay day. Since then, things have changed, stealth wealth and less extravagance has ruled since the 2000s until the present day. Also, watch brands adapted to this new reality by restricting the production of the “cheaper” SS variants which, when combined with consumer trends, made ss more desirable but, there were less of them. Back in the 90s and even more so in the 80s (4 digit daytona), Rolex couldn’t shift SS variants (Causing lower production) which, conversely, has made their lack of availability in the used market generate a higher price. On the flip side, tons of TTs were sold when they were popular, so the secondary market has a glut of these 90s pieces = common/less desirable. The secondary market affects the new market, meaning that TTs are easy to obtain which when then compounded with the change in consumer buying habits (wanting less flashy items in general), makes the TT undesirable on forums where hardened aficionados like us glean most of our opinions and consensus.

Previous posters allude to a scenario where SS were always (4 and 5 digit) really tough to obtain and thus always sought after. This synopsis is a fictional supposition where those not old enough to remember provide views of the past based upon what they see today. I was a real buyer in the 90s and I really bought a zenith Daytona. I really went to multiple ADs in Spain, US, France and UK and I really saw SS sitting there and I could have bought 10 or more of them on a heartbeat with zero issues. I bought the TT because that was what people wanted and, I would have probably bought the all YG had I not been in my 20s at the time and I didn’t have the money. I would not (back then) have bought the SS. Hindsight is a beautiful thing eh? But, how could anyone have known that 20 or 30 years later YG would be deemed too flashy?

Anyhow, here are my two Daytona’s. A TT zenith bought new when they were hip and, the latest sought after piece due to today’s consumer preferences

This is about the most accurate post on the TT issue.

Ironically, of all my Rolex watches (BLNR, hulk and TT GMT black and YG), the hands down stunner that everyone loves is the TT GMT. This includes all generations from my mom and her friends to my associate in his mid forties to my young secretary who follows all the latest trends.

To me, the TT GMT is gorgeous and just the right amount of bling. Love it.

[Matt_01]

If this came out with a ceramic bezel I suspect it would be a different story I.e the CHNR

I know I’d buy a ceramic version but the current one isn’t for me

[padi56]

Originally Posted by inadeje

Hi Padi, such an informed veteran mine of accurate information as yourself wouldn’t usually write “ Mainly because the SS has always been hard to get even when first launched way back in 2000“

First launched back in 2000?

Perhaps I should have said with the in-house made cal 4130 movement, the very first chronograph made by Rolex first launched way back in 2000 and remained just cosmetically changed over the years to present time.

[Greg 59]

Originally Posted by inadeje

Hi OP, tendencies and fashion changes. When I bought my TT Daytona new in the mid 90s the TT variant and the YG variant were all the rage. The extravagant naughties are well documented and flashy gold was in its hay day. Since then, things have changed, stealth wealth and less extravagance has ruled since the 2000s......../

Finally. Someone has submitted a proper and dare I say, very comprehensive response to an OP's question without making some sarcastic or patronising statement. Thank you Sir!

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[DonRickles]

Originally Posted by padi56

Perhaps I should have said with the in-house made cal 4130 movement, the very first chronograph made by Rolex.

Are you not happy with this 4130 movement and if so why?

[JK911]

Originally Posted by GADGET-MAN

Curious why TRF members think the Daytona 2-tone watches are not popular? Obviously from pricing something is up.

Posted image example I grabbed off internet.

Thank you

M

I don’t understand it either. It’s also the trophy watch for the winners at the 24hrs at Daytona.

[JK911]

Originally Posted by Greg 59

Finally. Someone has submitted a proper and dare I say, very comprehensive response to an OP's question without making some sarcastic or patronising statement. Thank you Sir!

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Very rare on this forum I’ve come to realize

[drrd]

Of course it makes no sense that real-world the TT costs less than steel.

Daytona is small, fussy-looking, effeminate and quite dated in appearance.

Two tone exacerbates all the above.

There's just no accounting for taste (mine included).

[MOVSOONER]

TT are great, back and a good buy imo.



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