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Old 19 May 2020, 02:36 AM   #1
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Weird Film on Bezel

Hello!

I have a 1 year new, Rolex SD (red 4000) with a weird film on the ceramic bezel. I have washed it, scrubbed it etc. and will not get it off. Any ideas?
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Old 19 May 2020, 02:40 AM   #2
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It’s hard to pick up in the photos, but have you washed under running water with a few dabs of blue Dawn dish soap? There’s nothing better, in my experience, in terms of effectiveness without being too harsh.

If that doesn’t do it, I’d leave it to RSC. You don’t want to force it and cause further damage to the bezel.
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Old 19 May 2020, 03:38 AM   #3
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OP's post is one of those rare ones where a picture isn't worth a thousand words but actually the opposite.
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Old 19 May 2020, 04:19 AM   #4
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Look at the 12 o’clock location on bezel on bottom picture. See the film on the bezel near the crystal?
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Old 19 May 2020, 05:27 AM   #5
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Try washing under a running water first, wouldn't recommend soap though.
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Old 19 May 2020, 05:31 AM   #6
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I see some sort if discoloration. Strange. Never heard of this before.

As everyone else mentioned, try rinsing it.

Please keep us posted.
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Old 19 May 2020, 05:39 AM   #7
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I’ve done everything. Dawn, Meyers hand, ivory, alcohol. (Collectively over a year to try and rid it) nothing works. I thought it was glue but the RSC told me that bezel isn’t glued in there...IDK?
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Old 19 May 2020, 06:50 AM   #8
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I’ve done everything. Dawn, Meyers hand, ivory, alcohol. (Collectively over a year to try and rid it) nothing works. I thought it was glue but the RSC told me that bezel isn’t glued in there...IDK?
Send to RSC. Should be covered under warranty if a defect.
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Old 19 May 2020, 06:54 AM   #9
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Send it to RSC or the AD, they will probably replace it with new. Trust me, that's what you need to have happen..
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Old 19 May 2020, 07:59 AM   #10
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I’ve done everything. Dawn, Meyers hand, ivory, alcohol. (Collectively over a year to try and rid it) nothing works. I thought it was glue but the RSC told me that bezel isn’t glued in there...IDK?


It’s perhaps some lubricant underneath the bezel migrating along the edge to the insert.

Getting the gasket onto the crystal and case to make a tight fit may have tempted the watchmaker to use a bit of oil to aid installation.


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Old 19 May 2020, 08:47 AM   #11
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Old 19 May 2020, 09:35 AM   #12
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You haven’t used Acetone? (Nail Polish Remover).
Dip a Q tip in some and then wipe away. I’m being serious. It won’t hurt the ceramic bezel at all, or the numerals on the bezel because they are PVD filled.
Acetone is a solvent, unlike Isopropyl Alcohol. If that stain can be removed then Acetone will do it without damaging anything else. If it doesn’t remove it, then it’s a chemical reaction of some kind that’s caused the problem. Worth a try.
I use it frequently if I get stubborn marks that nothing else will shift, especially on the platinum Yachtmaster bezel as it’s the only thing that removes greasy finger marks etc and makes the bezel pristine again.
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Old 19 May 2020, 09:58 AM   #13
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I’ve done everything. Dawn, Meyers hand, ivory, alcohol. (Collectively over a year to try and rid it) nothing works. I thought it was glue but the RSC told me that bezel isn’t glued in there...IDK?
So have the RSC already looked at it?
It's not possible to tell what the issue is from the photos, but sounds like you tried several things already.
Might be time to send it to the RSC if not already and let them deal with it, especially if the watch is under warranty (without getting into what is/is not covered by this). They might just swap out the insert and be done with it.
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Old 20 May 2020, 03:01 AM   #14
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Don’t used any harsh chemical cleaning fluids. I wound send it in under warranty and have Rolex clean it or replace it. Last thing you want to do is void the warranty by cleaning it yourself.
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Old 20 May 2020, 03:06 AM   #15
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Its called glare.
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Old 20 May 2020, 03:16 AM   #16
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Have you recently used any sunscreen?
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Old 20 May 2020, 03:29 AM   #17
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Good bath with soapy warm water should do the trick
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Old 20 May 2020, 03:53 AM   #18
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Pictures are not helping at all but from what I could “barely see” it looks like oxidation which not possible with a new Rolex watch.


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Old 20 May 2020, 06:11 AM   #19
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I guess you have already tried ultrasound jewelry cleaner? How does the stain feel when you touch it with your finger? Is there a texture?
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Old 22 May 2020, 09:59 PM   #21
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No takes to any of the above. It’s definitely not glare (as mentioned above lol). Once the RSC is on a better turn around time-line, I’ll send it in. Thanks for the comments. Take care and stay safe out there.
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Old 22 May 2020, 10:07 PM   #22
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Interesting. I look forward to the solution.
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Old 22 May 2020, 10:09 PM   #23
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Very odd... Hope you find the solution and post up the findings
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Old 22 May 2020, 10:28 PM   #24
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I guess you have already tried ultrasound jewelry cleaner?


I sure hope not - watch heads don’t belong in an ultrasonic cleaner...


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Old 23 May 2020, 01:12 AM   #25
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Sounds to me like a fault in the glaze layer of the bezel. The bezel will have to be replaced.


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Old 23 May 2020, 01:14 AM   #26
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Sounds to me like a fault in the glaze layer of the bezel. The bezel will have to be replaced.


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This! It sounds like common artifact of the ceramic glazing process, at least outside of a Rolex factory...
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Old 23 May 2020, 08:53 AM   #27
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I've never seen this on a ceramic bezel. Interesting thread, please post an update after RSC has a look at it.

It sort of looks like heat damage, or something that got baked onto or into the ceramic surface at some point.
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