from SS to PM ?

[DG123]

If AD's do not usually have a stainless steel Daytona, GMT, Sky-Dweller, Submariner etc... why don't customers switch to the precious metals versions of same ?
I understand PM prices are higher than SS, but one could sell or trade 2 or 3 SS models to get the PM watch.

[2polar]

There are several reasons why someone wouldn't want to do that including; they don't like the look pm, they don't like the weight, they don't have the money/want to spend that level of money or, in your example, either don't have 2 or 3 watches to trade or be willing to trade what they've got.

Without wanting to sound mean, in all honesty, I think that's not a very well thought question.

[Emoney11]

I think it all comes down to preference

Some people rather have the variety with owning 2 to 3 SS pieces while others rather have 1 PM. If you ran a poll of whats preferred, multiple SS or 1 PM I think it will be fairly even.

[Duende01]

Not to mention that PM watches have a tendency to depreciate faster than their SS versions.

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[peterpl]

You answered your own question.

How many customers do you think there is for a $10k watch versus a $35-$40k watch? 90% of ppl are in the game at $10k. At $30k+ that shrinks dramatically I would say to less than 10% of the market.

$$ talks thats all there is to it. I know for myself if I wasnt worth 7 figures I wouldnt even consider dropping $30k on ANY watch. I'm not going to be a pretender and portray something I am not.

[smk210]

Variety is a spice of life. IMO I rather have options to pick from than have just one expensive watch.

[s46]

only a dummy would pay the outrageous inflated ss prices that in some models are equivalent to the pm prices of the same model

[2001jesper]

You casually assume that people just have 2 to 3 SS models laying around to either sell or trade Thats not normal

PM is beyond reach for the wast majority and if pursued it could be years and years of savings

[johnorpheus]

lol yeah... can't get a SS Sub? Just go cough up 40k for a Smurf, easy peasy. Or better yet, since in your scenario I really want SS, it makes total sense to trade the 2-3 high value SS pieces I apparently already have for PM.

[mondec]

And after they get their PM pieces, they can also go eat some cake.

[campfire]

Yep, as a lot of folks said, the market in the $30K range is much smaller. Plus when you get to that range, you open up the HH options too so further fragmenting that small market.

[maximilianmuller]

To each their own, I personally do not like the PM look.

[DG123]

Originally Posted by campfire

Yep, as a lot of folks said, the market in the $30K range is much smaller. Plus when you get to that range, you open up the HH options too so further fragmenting that small market.

What does HH mean ?

[2001jesper]

"Prefaced by the French term “haute,” haute horology refers to the absolute finest of high-end watchmaking"

[DG123]

Originally Posted by 2001jesper

"Prefaced by the French term “haute,” haute horology refers to the absolute finest of high-end watchmaking"

Merci beaucoup.

[aayates]

Rough crowd on this thread, and I don't think it's justified given the OP's initial question.

[Likestheshiny]

Originally Posted by aayates

Rough crowd on this thread, and I don't think it's justified given the OP's initial question.

What's interesting is that I was just thinking, "They're being unexpectedly kind."

The Op literally asked why people don't just pay three times as much to get a watch.

[Xenon]

The implication is that all people need is one spectacular watch to wear every day as opposed to three average watches worn occasionally that look alike.

I tend to agree.

[DG123]

Originally Posted by Likestheshiny

What's interesting is that I was just thinking, "They're being unexpectedly kind."

The Op literally asked why people don't just pay three times as much to get a watch.

Disappointment with an AD's inventory is a common topic of discussion here at TRF. However my understanding is that AD's usually have a large inventory of Rolex product line, and it's only a few models that are "hard to find" at an AD.
My assumption is that Rolex company and its AD's are satisfied, as are all the customers willing to buy the Rolex models which are readily available.
So, the subject of this thread is to question why not buy the model that the AD has in stock and ready to sell ?
There have been some helpful replies, but I think one additional answer is that some buyers of an all steel GMT may want a sense of security that they are paying new for the price that grey market sells for a used piece .So, the buyer gets to enjoy wearing a new watch while also believing that its resale value is more than what he/she paid the AD.
So, I think one can keep looking at AD's , get on wait lists etc.. for one of the couple of models that an AD sells new for less than grey market used. Or, one can buy any of the many, many Rolex models the AD has in inventory, enjoy wearing that watch, and look to the stock market, soy bean futures, rare coins or stamps etc... for investment gain opportunities. Any and all Rolex models hold their value reasonably well, so no matter which watch one buys it won't depreciate too much.

[DG123]

Originally Posted by Xenon

The implication is that all people need is one spectacular watch to wear every day as opposed to three average watches worn occasionally that look alike.

I tend to agree.

My guess is that the answers would be split 50/50 if people with $30,000 to invest in Rolex product would rather have one $30,000 watch or three $10,000 watches.

[djyolky]

In before the lock. It's about to get good.

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[Bigblu10]

OP, in most cases it boils down to price point. A SS Sub is in the 9K range, and for many jumping to a YG or WG Sub is a huge financial leap at 4 times the price of steel.

[Xenon]

Originally Posted by DG123

My guess is that the answers would be split 50/50 if people with $30,000 to invest in Rolex product would rather have one $30,000 watch or three $10,000 watches.

50/50 split I agree. Look at this way. The forum would be a dull place if everyone here owned only one watch. The forum serves two purposes: to discuss Rolex watches and to enable the sale of Rolex watches. There would few incoming posts with a forum comprised of only single watch owners. No investment advice. No trade in advice. No future purchase advice. Few pictures. People would only post when they need service.

There are lots of successful people with large discretionary income who own one nice car, one nice audiophile home theater/stereo system, and one nice watch who never give a second thought about any of these items until they break. There are internet forums for everything these days and they do not participate. Owning several nice items motivates a person to seek out like minded individuals on a regular basis for comparison and camaraderie.

[DG123]

Originally Posted by Bigblu10

OP, in most cases it boils down to price point. A SS Sub is in the 9K range, and for many jumping to a YG or WG Sub is a huge financial leap at 4 times the price of steel.

Is the the steel and gold Submariner, $14,100 MSRP , or the steel and gold GMT at $14,800 MSRP, rarely available at an AD?

[DG123]

Originally Posted by Xenon

50/50 split I agree. Look at this way. The forum would be a dull place if everyone here owned only one watch. The forum serves two purposes: to discuss Rolex watches and to enable the sale of Rolex watches. There would few incoming posts with a forum comprised of only single watch owners. No investment advice. No trade in advice. No future purchase advice. Few pictures. People would only post when they need service.

There are lots of successful people with large discretionary income who own one nice car, one nice audiophile home theater/stereo system, and one nice watch who never give a second thought about any of these items until they break. There are internet forums for everything these days and they do not participate. Owning several nice items motivates a person to seek out like minded individuals on a regular basis for comparison and camaraderie.

I agree that a single watch is not everyone's cup of tea, especially at a Rolex watch collectors forum. But I do find it curious why there seems to be so much dismay at one or two stainless steel models not being regularly available at the AD shops.
My belief is that consumers visit authorized dealers and many find a model that suits their taste and budget. It has to be this way or Rolex would not have been as a successful of a company and brand as it has been for 100 years.

[YYR]

Originally Posted by DG123

Is the the steel and gold Submariner, $14,100 MSRP , or the steel and gold GMT at $14,800 MSRP, rarely available at an AD?

The gmt is rare the sub not so much